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1  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: xtrememiners.net IS a scam on: December 31, 2013, 12:16:01 PM
I have spoken to them on the phone (in full panic mode) at the number listed on their website and invoice. German accent. They responded to my emails within about 20m at approx 1300 UTC today.

Another user posted in non-newb forurms that they refunded 11BTC to someone who asked. So far, I'm nervous like I would be sending 5BTC to a relatively unknown internet entity, but I haven't read anything definitely scamesque, such as refusing to cancel/refund an order without good reason. 

Time will tell if they can deliver the goods on time/spec. Given that the 5BTC is all old mined gravy, I'd probably be happy with the shiny case to pile my obsolete hardware in.

Due diligence is best performed before hitting that send button.

The fact that no one wrote that it`s a quite probably a scam is, because there are 6 more weeks
to come.

Next thing you can expect is moving the deadline for shipping, `due to the enormous demand
we ship a few weeks later, we are very sorry for that`

Furthermore the number is a mobile Lyca number using the Vodafone network
just check 0152 16941826 on google.com

And by the way, who is the owner of the http://www.xtrememiners.net website?

From whom you expect your hardware, since there is no company address listed?

You can only pay in bitcoins, good luck in getting your money back
in case you wouldn`t receive your mining hardware.

Actually I would be very much surprised if anyone would receive any hardware.
You can forget about it: no address and only payable by bitcoins, what other
warning signs do you want before all alarms go off?

And regarding the shiny case, I don`t think anyone will get it!
2  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: xtrememiners.net IS a scam on: December 31, 2013, 12:05:07 PM
since I'm not allowed to write anywhere else, I hope someone in charge can repost my statement at:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345612.0

1.) The adress of the "company" is the same as the consulate generale of argentina:
http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/DE/Laenderinformationen/Argentinien/VertretungenArgentinien.html

2.) The "company" is no company like "GmbH" or "KG" or "AG" as usual in Germany, it is "Mr." Berg

3.) The German so called "Impressum" is incomplete, you MUST write your full name, an email is missing, no VAT (Umsatzsteuer ID), what is a MUST HAVE, if you make business with outside of Germany.

4.) The phone number provided is not from Frankfurt, what is +49-69- but it is a german mobile phone number.

5.) The prices are in US$ not € as it is the German currency, and they claim to manufacture it in Germany, so they never ever would risk to be paid in US$, but even they take no US$ but Bitcoins ...

Now think twice, before wasting your valuable bitcoins on this.

"If something sounds too good to be true, probably it isn't."

Keep in mind, they claim to deliver products worth 6,190,000 US$ just in bitcoins ....

I fully agree with the statement listed above.

Furthermore the number is a mobile Lyca number using the Vodafone network
just check 0152 16941826 on google.com

And by the way, who is the owner of the http://www.xtrememiners.net website?

From whom you expect your hardware, since there is no company address listed?

You can only pay in bitcoins, good luck in getting your money back
in case you wouldn`t receive your mining hardware.

Actually I would be very much surprised if anyone would receive any hardware.
You can forget about it: no address and only payable by bitcoins, what other
warning signs do you want before all alarms go off?
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