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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Understanding Whales and How Price Is Affected. I need someone who understands on: November 10, 2022, 12:27:42 PM
Thanks for the input.

So but what I'm still not sure is.

Simply with the example I gave, I know for sure that if I sell the price will fall significantly.

So if I buy back the moment I sell, I buy it cheaper?

For example:

Coin value is $1 because I have a 1000 coins. Selling now would mean 1000x$1=$1000.
Coin value becomes $0.50 because I sold 1000 coins. Buying immediately after my sell would mean 1000x$0.50=$500. That would instantly make me $500 better off.

Is this true, or do I not actually buy at $0.50, even though it is listed as $0.50. But my act of buying forces the price to go to $1. So I'm still buying at $1? But that wouldn't make sense because
if someone else bought it for sure, they would be buying at $0.50. So this does mean dumping and buying immediately would give me positive result($500 profit in this example). It sounds too good to be true.



2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Understanding Whales and How Price Is Affected. I need someone who understands on: November 09, 2022, 01:57:33 PM
I would really appreciate if somebody can explain this to me.

There are many altcoins, some of which might have low volume, there is a community behind it.

Each coin/token holder can dramatically effect the price of the coin with each buy or sell.

If you are lucky enough you might end up becoming a whale for such coin/token.

I've noticed when:

I buy(depending on the amount), the price than dramatically changes.
I sell(depending on the amount), the price than dramatically changes.

So for example. Let's say the coin/token price is $1 at the moment.

I sell a 1000 coin/tokens while it costs $1 per coin/token. That would give me 1000 x $1 = $1000.

After the sell, the price of the coin/token has fallen to $0.50 per coin/token. That means I influenced the price.

But what happens if I buy it back again?

So lets say I buy the 1000 coin/tokens again. Will that be 1000 x $0.50 = $500?

Because this would mean by simply dumping and immediately buying again, I would make $500 profit. Does this make sense?

What's is clear that the next person to buy after me will do so at $1.

So applying the same logic would mean, a coin/token holder that can influence the price could infinitely make profit buy dumping and buying again?

Any clarification will be appreciated.
3  Economy / Trading Discussion / Binance Futures - Leveraging Risks on: August 19, 2021, 12:12:32 AM
Even though I have traded on Binance, I have never used Binance Futures and I have never used leveraging.

What concerns me is the risk. But what I find most worrisome, is I have heard that with leveraging, you can end up losing more than your capital. What do I mean by this?

What I mean is, lets say I have $1000 on Binance balance. I use leveraging and I lose $1200, that will mean my balance is -$200. Yes minus!

Which means I would OWE $200, and will have to pay that unless I want legal action taken against me.

Please correct me if I am wrong as I would love to hear that.

Otherwise, leveraging is very dangerous. You could endup losing your house!

Is it possible to lose more than the capital when using leveraging?
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What haven't most people not heard about that can help them make money? on: November 05, 2020, 06:58:57 PM
Mostly there is a lot of manipulation by the big players in the market especially in low volume coins where the big players can control the market and they can pump and dump the price according to their needs whenever they want. As far as your question regarding bots and autotrading is concerned, yes there are such services available but they are not free of risks either.

I'd be happy to findout about those services you mentioned. Perhaps one with the best reputation and that can be trusted.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / What haven't most people not heard about that can help them make money? on: November 05, 2020, 06:25:00 PM
When I check coinmarketcap I always find it interesting that there is some crypto mooning. You can seen gainers and losers everyday. I think what seems like is happening that there are people in the know about some secret event or information that the public is not privy to. Perhaps if we did know than where those gains happen for some unknown altcoin, you would have bought it already. And you would also know before it getting dumped. how can I get in on this action?

Also another thing, isn't there some kind of bot, that will automatically buy from what ever is gaining and automatically sell as soon as price goes down? there has to be a way to do this that we are not aware of.
6  Other / Off-topic / CryptoIndex - Zorax Algorithm - Will it help me make more profits in crypto? on: November 02, 2019, 01:15:59 PM
Hi,

I recently came across the CryptoIndex 100 CIX100, and the AI platform known as Zorax, which is an AI supposed to help us make more money in crypto. I have come across very little third-party reviews of the this platform, and was wondering if anybody here has been using it and making consistent gains and profits through it.

I would also appreciate if anybody can help me understand the buying indexes as opposed to the traditional use of buying just coins. What are the advantages/disadvantages, benefits/risks involved.

Kind regards,

Mike
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BOT] Moon Bot - trading terminal for Bittrex and Binance on: February 16, 2019, 07:05:23 PM
Can someone please explain to me what this Moonbot is and if it actually works?

From the sounds of a it a bot that can detect a pump before it happens, buys it and places a trailing stop loss and repeats this process would be a WIN-WIN no matter what the market is. Is this how it is actually working? Can it be used with Cryptohopper as signals?
8  Economy / Economics / Sick and tired of the cryptocurrency bullshit!!! on: October 03, 2018, 06:33:27 PM
Warning! Ranting ahead!

I am getting really pissed at the state of the markets. Despite positive news, the market is still pissing blood. Why?

Tons of videos on YouTube over and over again and again, hyping the crap out of this or that coin, anticipating something. But what for. The prices are not moving up when they should be.

What is the point of being excited when market is being manipulated by the most despicable creatures on the planet who see themselves above everyone else.

From my point of view it looks like TPTB saw people getting rich and becoming independent and they couldn't allow so many wealthy individuals in society so they came up with a plan to end this.

If you look at prices you can see how prices hardly change anymore. Heck most of the time Bitcoin prices remain at 0.00! in the hour! Why because they probably set up their bots to pump and dump their coins based on market movement to keep the price the same to prevent people from making money. This isn't so impossible to be true you know.

Just set up some bots and millions worth of money and when ever market provides a hint of an improvement dump it, and when even it going bad pump it. Keeping the prices relatively stable.

I mean why on Earth would anybody in their right mind sell, or setup their bots to sell when positive news is everywhere. It just doesn't make sense. It just an evil behavior that is all.
9  Economy / Trading Discussion / I really hate what they have done to the crypto market on: May 21, 2018, 11:20:16 PM
This is so upsetting! So infuriating. And most annoying of all, there is not a visible target to direct our anger. Because they are hidden.

There is no logical reason for the bearish market and red sea we are seeing at the moment. On the contrary, there is every reason for a bullish market with all the developments and announcements going on.

But the evil scumbags who are too preoccupied with making the humanity of this world suffer, have come up with a system to choke the life out of the crypto space.

They do not have interest in crypto, yet they invest in it in order so other people can not get good fruits from it.

By now the idiots should have understood what is going on. The crypto market is what it is because of evil people's action.

They figured the cryptocurrency and blockchain technology can not be stopped, but the crypto bullish market which is imperative in it's adoption can be brought to a halt.

If you guys use your brains a little bit you can figure out how this is so easily possible.

Simply use sophisticated trading bots to look for market caps of bitcoin and altcoins. If there is an increase in the marketcap by investments by the people of this world, than the scumbag whales will make a proportionate dump, and just repeat this process. Ofcourse, TPTB can not dump their coins forever otherwise they will not have influence over the market anymore. So they will need to buy back what they have given up.

So initially they started with a huge dump. And they settled their place around $8000 for bitcoin. Now all the bot needs to do is dump when the coins are pumping, and pump when the coins are dumping. One to keep the prices down and prevent bullish market and the other to maintain control over the crypto space.

If you look at coinmarketcap, Bitcoin amazingly is seen at %0.00 in 1 hour many times. Ofcourse it is not possible to always maintain this, so you usually end up seeing something like %0.2, %0.75 etc. But considering, it is close to perfect. This is also the reason why, bizarrely we see a sea of reds and then a seas of greens. The whole thing has been setup to prevent a bullish market and to prevent a loss of influence by dumping too much forever. Also preventing a healthy volatility is important to stop investors. It is also the strange reason that Bitcoin price seems like it is affecting all the altcoin prices. Is because if you have ever used a crypto trading bot, you get to choose as many altcoins as you want. And for the scumbag evil TPTB, it is very easy to buy from almost all of the coins. Enough to have an impact.

Really crypto is dead in my opinion. TPTB and the bankers have killed it. So it is laughable how people where saying the governments can not stop it. They have stopped it you fools!

And the reason it won't be fixed is because the so called noble people of crypto who wanted to change the world, including the so called exchanges really only care about themselves. The crypto market must be self-regulated to allow real investors who want to make money and who want to see the technology grow be allowed a priority stake by exchanges. The exchanges are a contributing factor in this mess.

I am pretty sure the moment the likes of Binance allowed API to crypto trading bots, is when it became much more easier to manipulate the market. And you buffoons defending the bots, you are either one of these evil people themselves or you really don't understand the harm that is happening.

It is possible to invest without bots, and perhaps this is the method people who are not lazy should return to if we want to save this market.

The whales should be identified, which is possible to do with their account and location/IP info and also by the amount in which they dump. This should not be allowed. Such whales API trading bots should be disabled or banned.

I know there are many who love whales, but I would call you a fool if you love the whales that are destroying the market. These whales are killer orcas and they must be removed from the space. Now on the other hand if we have some friendly Free Willy whales I am all game for that.

A movement to change the tide of the market by the people who started this all must be initiated. Crypto is the child of the revolutionary internet social media groups  and genius programmers. Once again something needs to be born to make it impossible to manipulate our markets.

Perhaps somebody needs to open up an exchange which will not allow manipulation. And then people should stop using the likes of Binance until they are bankrupt.

Really wish the whole communities from Reddit, Telegram, Discord, Slack, forum etc what have you talked about the importance of what is going on instead of wasting time with technical analysis which doesn't even matter when their is manipulation.
10  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Obvious Manipulation and the idiots with their technical analysis getting on: May 18, 2018, 08:23:52 PM
This was obvious so long ago. I just couldn't understand how people can be so stupid.

People were talking about crypto like it was unstoppable by TPTB. Because they are just thinking about the technology.

But the TPTB which form the biggest collection of whales, can so easily choke the market by manipulating.

It was so obvious, but idiot videos with so much talk and hype and excitement over this that and the other made people think like prices are going up.

Now even though there is every reason for a bull market, it doesn't arrive because of these bastard whales.

If only there was a way to kick them out, or prevent whalish behaviour.

Cmon people, put your heads together and come up with an algorithm to remove whales.

And don't tell me we need whales and that they are good for us. These whales are killer orcs. We don't need these types of whales.

Now, if there are some Free Willy's out there, ofcourse count them in.
11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / The Obvious Manipulation and the idiots with their technical analysis getting on: May 09, 2018, 09:29:09 PM
The Obvious Manipulation and the idiots with their technical analysis getting excited over nothing

It is so obvious that some kind of manipulation is choking the potential price increases of all cryptos. So what is the point of all youtube vids, reddit threads, telegram announcements about new developments. Price will hardly increase anymore.

Those bastards have done it and are weakening the potential gains investors could have.

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