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And against a 100 BTC loan you must be offering huge collateral of course so care to talk about them first  huh, didn't you read? He has a facebook profile! What could possibly go wrong? ^_^ Hi all, I need a small loan of 100 bitcoins!
You're stuck in 2010?
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It´s nice to know I was right.  Where are those who called me a shill, sock puppet,etc now? 
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Mt Gox heeft als het goed is dinsdag hun faillissement aanvragen al ingediend, ze hebben nog zo'n 2000BTC. Zorg dat jullie met genoeg zijn zodat het een kleine juridische kost word, want vrees dat dit bij hetgeen komt wat je al kwijt bent. Hoop dat jullie op wat voor manier ook jullie geld terugkrijgen, maar reken er niet teveel op. Succes aan all gedupeerden. 
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Why would anyone buy MtGox? This would be a mistake for the buyer.
The buyer would probably pay a symbolic price of 1 dollar to Mark Karpeles, and promises to settle all client funds with cash. The true cost for the buyer would land on 100-500 million dollars as we don't know exactly how much money and bitcoin they miss. What do the buyer gain when buying MtGox? They get 1 million clients, most of them are verified.As I mentioned Facebook paid 19 billion dollars for WhatsApp, so 500 millions for the no.1 bitcoin exchange is peanuts. And most WA users now use Telegram, everyone I had in my WA list is now on Telegram.  In the case of Mt Gox, much more customers will leave, you wouldn't end up with 1 million active clients.
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nonsense theory
In case of such a large loss of BTC he could if he was able to prove without doubt that this cold storage is his, work together with the trusted core devs and the community to give him back control of those lost coin in an update of the client.
It should not be too hard to prove that such a huge cold storage is his, especially if they kept some records of the transactions, along with other records a security expert could easily figure out.
nothing of what karpeles spouts out makes sense or connects in a rational way, which is an indication of lying.
I think I'm going to message one of the devs, just remembered I lost the private key from this address: http://bitcoinrichlist.com/address/1e6AzmPF35S3JTE8QMXD3k7oczJ7QgCSa?charttype=balanceThink I lost it on Mar 9, 2012.  Bad idea imo to open that can of worms. 
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What the... If I run some trading site and read bitching like on the last few pages, I steal all that money for real, show you a finger and disappear. This is disgusting, shut up for some time!
Yeah, would cross my mind too, luckily we aren't Neotrix.  But most of those bitching probably are UTC users, angry they're missing the dump.  Others know CT a bit longer, know it will be fixed and are trading on other exchanges till it is fixed. Nothing lost here, probably can pick up some cheap shares when trading works again in a few weeks.
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Great, een nieuwe FUD reportage in de maak. 
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Just saw a chat with RS on MCXNOW, and I don't think we will see XCP there anytime soon, if not ever. I won't even copy / paste what was mentioned, that was brutal.
Who's RS? RealSolid..owner And was so bad about XCP, that he didn't want to include it? RealSolid is a scammer, we really don't want it on that exchange! Really don't get why people use that exchange with a track record like his.  RealSolid == CoinHunter
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There is a new update  Please be patient while we complete our maintenance tests which includes:- 1) Database backups. 2) Verifying data integrity and security. 3) Checking our crypto wallets to detect any sort of hacks lately.. 4) Looking for performance leaks both in frontend(CSS,JS) and backend(DB,PHP) sections.. 5) Optimizing server and clearing temporary log files..
Usually we do not take more than 3-4 hours to complete our maintenance tests.If for any reason you see this page for a longer time, please feel free to notify us via our support form. And relax you guys, they're trustworthy, I have for more than 2500LTC in this exchange, shares and coins. They're not broke from a $ 30,000 hack, they just need time to fix things. who's talking about trust? relax? POINT is ITs not right for them to take there sweet time Looking into there problems , while Utc price is goinig down I prefer them to take their sweet time and fix everything the right way than rush and make mistakes, which could end up in things much worse than it is now. I prefer not being held Hostage with my coins!!(i have more coins at CT than 2500 ltc) what make you think people will trade at CT after this? Fix the problem but first priority should be Getting the coins to the Owners first!!! What do you think they're doing? But they probably need to do some things before users can withdraw their money without a hacker taking the coins. I think you prefer to wait a little before you can take your coins out instead of they're opening the withdrawing function and your coins are being stolen. 
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There is a new update  Please be patient while we complete our maintenance tests which includes:- 1) Database backups. 2) Verifying data integrity and security. 3) Checking our crypto wallets to detect any sort of hacks lately.. 4) Looking for performance leaks both in frontend(CSS,JS) and backend(DB,PHP) sections.. 5) Optimizing server and clearing temporary log files..
Usually we do not take more than 3-4 hours to complete our maintenance tests.If for any reason you see this page for a longer time, please feel free to notify us via our support form. And relax you guys, they're trustworthy, I have for more than 2500LTC in this exchange, shares and coins. They're not broke from a $ 30,000 hack, they just need time to fix things. who's talking about trust? relax? POINT is ITs not right for them to take there sweet time Looking into there problems , while Utc price is goinig down I prefer them to take their sweet time and fix everything the right way than rush and make mistakes, which could end up in things much worse than it is now.
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There is a new update  Please be patient while we complete our maintenance tests which includes:- 1) Database backups. 2) Verifying data integrity and security. 3) Checking our crypto wallets to detect any sort of hacks lately.. 4) Looking for performance leaks both in frontend(CSS,JS) and backend(DB,PHP) sections.. 5) Optimizing server and clearing temporary log files..
Usually we do not take more than 3-4 hours to complete our maintenance tests.If for any reason you see this page for a longer time, please feel free to notify us via our support form. And relax you guys, they're trustworthy, I have for more than 2500LTC in this exchange, shares and coins. They're not broke from a $ 30,000 hack, they just need time to fix things.
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How 'bout a Linux phone : Ubuntu PhoneIMHO no use with iOS, Android or Mobile Windows in terms of secure privacy - as they all have numerous backdoors deeply nested in their core OS. I repeat: After these privacy issues on the desktop OS, you are still thinking about Ubuntu Phone? Go to privacy settings and turn off "Include online search results" solves the whole privacy issue. Source is completely open so you can look for any backdoors.  I still prefer this over any os where you can be 100% sure your data is send to national security agencies and used for marketing purposes
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When it comes to bullshit... big-time, major league bullshit... you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it, religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky... who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place... full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time ! ...but he loves you  Feels like Stockholm syndrome on steroids... If we are accountable to God's law of 10 commandments, wouldn't it be loving of God to provide a way to be saved from the price we needed to pay for our crimes? That seems like a pretty amazing gift. Basically Jesus paid our life sentence for us and what do most people do, they mock Him, laugh, say it is "bullshit." It seems far riskier to live life laughing at God then serving Him. Let's say I am totally wrong. Let's say that I am asking God for forgiveness for breaking one or two of the 10 commandments only to die and realize that I was "wrong." Then what? I won't suffer any different fate than those of you that don't believe. But what if I am right? What if Hell is a real place and the only way to heaven is through accepting Jesus? The logical choice is to accept Him. Because the time you spend reading the bible over and over, sit in church and praying. You could actually do and learn useful things and live your 1 life like you want it to be. The chance that you're right is actually non-existent.
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There is more to religion than what is written in a book. True religion is about what you do, not what you say. A true Christian is somebody who loves all people, not somebody who says "I am a Christian".
I agree that true Christianity is all about love. That pretty much sums up the main point Jesus made when he said the greatest commandment was "to love your neighbor as yourself." So with that perspective, this debate is not the most important thing. But it does have an effect on the fact that many people discredit the Bible now entirely. Also, you can call it crazy that we take the Bible literally, and many other Christians think we are as well. But the problem with just picking and choosing which parts of the Bible we agree with or don't agree with is that we are undermining the Bible. We are in essence saying that it could all be "fairy tales." Which parts are then made up? Do we just pick what makes sense based on what scientists are speculating is true? If we don't like some of God's laws do we just ignore them? Where is that line? And in essence, do we trust God or science? That is what it comes down to for me. If God is a God of miracles, which I believe He is, then He is able to do anything outside of the "rules" of science anyways. Ahem, you have it wrong. Jesus said the greatest commandment was to "love God with all your soul", loving others comes in second. If you believe there is a god, then why not just ask him which parts of the Bible are supposed to be taken literally? True. In loving others we are loving God so they very much go together I believe so lving God with all our soul should then cause us to love our neighbors as our self. I used to believe that evolution was a non-issue but over time have begun to realize that the Bible should be taken as literally as possible. Granted, not with a legalistic mindset (It can often go hand in hand it seems and I understand that) But to fear God for me is to respect Him and His word and to live it out as much as possible in every area of my life. This is a key part. You only love or believe in him out of fear. It's exactly like an abusive relationship. If god really loves us all I don't think he'd be bothered when people use their god-given intelligence to cast doubt on his existence. Especially when the only evidence for him is in a book. I'm also not sure how we're meant to know which book is true or not. What if the bible is the work of the devil and the Koran (or something else) is the one true book? The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. It is foolish NOT to fear God. Shouldn't we fear and respect the one that has the power to send us to hell? The Koran is not a book of Love. Sure there are some "truths" in all religions, or people would not follow them. Like I said in other posts, the one thing that differentiates Christianity from the rest is that Christianity is not about what we can do to earn our way to "heaven" or whatever heightened spiritual place the religion teaches. Christianity is all about what God, out of His great love for us, has done. We have the choice to accept that or reject that. Then out of fear and reverence we then follow Him because of His love. It is like a healthy father/child relationship. One where the child knows the Father's place and listens to Him and does what He asks, even when it does not always make sense because we can trust He really does know what is best for us. He only seems to have love for those who grovel out of fear to him. There's no choice or love there. It's love me or else you'll pay. It's 100% an abusive relationship. You also didn't answer how you know the bible is the correct book. How do you know you've not been duped by Satan into believing the wrong religion? There's also lots of hateful things in the bible. To truly grasp that God, out of love for us, would send His only son to die for our sins, is what changes the perception of a vengeful God into a merciful God. That said, He still is to be respected, just as we would respect our Father figure (or should respect our fathers. Many kids do not seem to anymore unfortunately.) The Bible is also a historical book that shows man's evil choices and even God's vengeance on those that have made their choice against Him. Usually God's hand is moved out of compassion on those who are trying to serve Him and are being abused. I know that I have experienced this in my life first hand. A strange and sudden death occurred for a guy that had abused me and other kids. It was several years the abuse occurred for me but perhaps God said "enough" and then allowed His sudden death? I will never know for sure. God is patient but there does come a time when he removes His hand and allows people to suffer the consequences of their choices. That does not change who He is though. He is faithful, just, forgiving and kind and compassionate to those that truly seek Him. Are you serious? He sent down his only son to be crucified? How exactly did him dying save anyone? How did he die for my sins? Why was it even necessary? It's bizarre and completely perverse to think a loving god would do this. And how is Jesus his only son? Aren’t we all his children. I also wouldn't respect my father if he had me crucified and threatened that I'd burn forever if I didn't love him. That's pure psychological abuse and murderous sadomasochism. And if god gave a shit about you or anyone else he wouldn't let abuse happen in the first place. How did Jesus save anyone? Adam and Eve sinned when they disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden. They were cast from the garden. But God promised He would send them salvation through a "child" which was Jesus. Then God established a relationship with the Israelites (now the Jews) in which he gave them the 10 commandments. These were God's laws that we are all accountable for. There needed to be a sacrifice for sins and it was done in the form of a lamb. (I am not sure why God chose this for the payment of sins but that is what God did.)Jesus became the ultimate atonement for our sins. He paid the price and all we have to do is accept His payment for our sins or we can just deny that we have any sin or deny that God is real. We have that choice but we are still accountable to the 10 Commandments. I personally do not want to die and stand before God without having my sins be atoned for. That won't end well. I am forever grateful for what Jesus has done for me. So god made up a rule that Eve couldn't eat a stupid apple, which she did. (if he created women, he should know how they are  ) So than he made up a punishment for us, we would rot in hell for eternity because of that one stupid apple. After a while he made a child, and than killed it and said, you know what, because I killed my own son which was fun enough. You can go all free, but you know, those 10 laws I made up a while ago, you still need to follow those because else I will still punish you till eternity. And you got to worship me and be really thankful to my son, because if I didn't get him killed. I would make your lives even worse. Yeah, I understand you fear that god, he has some real issues. And why does your god gives forgiveness for everything unless you don't believe in him, I was baptized and did those 2 ceremonial things when I was a child (no clue how they're called in English). Mostly because it's tradition, my wife and I broke the tradition by not marrying for the church. We are both atheist, and that would condemn us to an eternity in hell, we can't get forgiveness for that. Even though we would never hurt anyone, we don't kill, steal or abuse anyone. Still we go to hell and the priest that abused little children can go chill on a cloud in heaven. Doesn't really makes sense, does it? And the freaky part is, you live in fear of something that doesn't exist, their is no proof of a god and nothing that points in a direction that there is a god.
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guys hold on Crypto-trade CAN be trusted they will fix it, i think thats wy paypal processor where removed so that no one can exchange it ! wise choice btw, i had my toughts but its oke, trust them, see website new update there ( my toughts whas about the hugh amount of scammers these day ..i dont name them here ) they are also a silver member of the bitcoinfoundation ! do you think they will allowing scamming ?? dont think so  link : https://bitcoinfoundation.org/link : https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current 3e row on the right side In Crypto-Trade we trust !any tips? see my link for our project  [ iam goblin25 at crypto-trade ] Don't let that be a measurement for you to trust any bitcoin business. CT earned our trust for a while now with totally different things, the fact people can get there coins out and they don't just close down for a few weeks, like Mt Gox does, says enough. As a share holder it's not something I would call a dream scenario, but they could handled it worse. This makes no sense? You say it's a fact we can get our coins out and we can't. You say they don't just close down for weeks and that's exactly what they're doing. It will be possible to withdraw your coins before they close down for weeks, they're not showing us a white page without any further news. That's what I meant.
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What will be done now that cryptotrade is closing? I use cryptostocks currently seems to be functional, have little to no down time and has been around some time now. I know they support btc and ltc not sure what else.
For god's sake, not cryptostocks!!! I think - the best way is to wait, that few weeks, while CT will be updated does not kill anyone. After that trading may continue and dividends may be paid (yay!)  +1
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guys hold on Crypto-trade CAN be trusted they will fix it, i think thats wy paypal processor where removed so that no one can exchange it ! wise choice btw, i had my toughts but its oke, trust them, see website new update there ( my toughts whas about the hugh amount of scammers these day ..i dont name them here ) they are also a silver member of the bitcoinfoundation ! do you think they will allowing scamming ?? dont think so  link : https://bitcoinfoundation.org/link : https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current 3e row on the right side In Crypto-Trade we trust !any tips? see my link for our project  [ iam goblin25 at crypto-trade ] Mt Gox is a gold member, lol. I'm a big fan of Crypto-trade and really trust them the most of all exchanges, but being a silver member doesn't mean anything, just means they paid a fee of $1,000 -$5,000. Don't let that be a measurement for you to trust any bitcoin business. CT earned our trust for a while now with totally different things, the fact people can get there coins out and they don't just close down for a few weeks, like Mt Gox does, says enough. As a share holder it's not something I would call a dream scenario, but they could handled it worse.
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But in theory, ID and Evolution could easily coexist.
No, they cannot! One is knowledge the other is propaganda from a particular christian sect. Secondly, one could believe that a world was created by an intelligent being, and that creatures evolved since then. Sure, you can believe the big bang was done by an intelligent being, it's a theory. I don't think it's a good one but we don't exactly know the right answer yet, so in the meantime someone can call it god. There is no reason to believe there is a personal god though and there is enough evidence that we can say the world isn't created in a week and surely not some 1000 years ago.
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Anyone find it ironic that creationists ask for evidence of evolution but they accept god based on nothing but a book?
I have been trying to point out that it takes "faith" to believe in evolution just as it takes "faith" to believe in God. In some ways the debate can seem a bit futile. I often wonder why I even bother because I am usually just ridiculed, called stupid, etc. Even though there is excellent science that supports Intelligent Design. I guess deep down the hope is that somehow there will be a small seed of doubt in all the evolution propaganda that is being taught like it is the "truth" and that will help someone realize that perhaps there is more to the "big picture" than they have shown. Maybe they will crack open a Bible and begin to read it, maybe even with the plan to prove me wrong, but in doing so God will begin to reveal Himself and then the person will realize that they have a need for God in their life. That is my true hope in it all. Really, God could have used a big bang if He wanted to so the creation/evolution debate really is not the main issue. The point that is the most important is "Is God real?" And if God is real, "What will I do about that?" You believe the world was created in one day a few 1000 years ago and that you can put dinosaurs and humans in one big boat and they will walk away without a scratch, and people call you stupid? Wonder why they would say something like that. And who created the god that created god?
In theory, a god has always been around. Why is it matter can't come from nothing, but a fully formed god is perfectly reasonable? Why can god always have existed, but not the universe? Only something "supernatural", that is governed outside of the laws of nature, would be able to have existed forever. And you base this on? If this is true then any god or being could exist so what makes one god particularly stand out? Why can't the universe or multi/metaverses have existed for ever or be "supernatural"? What make the God of the Bible unique? All religions are based on ways to earn salvation by something we do to attain a "higher position" or some sort of nirvana. Christianity is the only religion that says the only way to salvation is to admit that there is no way we can earn it. It is not about being "good enough." Salvation is a free gift from God. All it takes is humbly asking God for forgiveness of falling short of his laws (the 10 commandments which we have all broken) Humility is something people just don't want to have! From the beginning of time it has been a struggle. Men just think that they are smart as God, or that they don't need Him. However, we all need Him! We can't get to heaven on our own merit. Why would someone need an imaginary friend? After some age you really should grow out of it. And we can't go to heaven on our own merit? Try a spacecraft.  Man, that there are still nutjobs like this in 2014, go read a book and think a little bit about how stupid your ideas really are with the knowledge we have today. 2000 years ago I can imagine it was perfectly sane to believe these things, now we know better. You can still believe something created the universe, but at least acknowledge the things that are just plain wrong.
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To stand before God and say, "It all seemed to stupid" or even "I was a good and moral person" is not enough to avoid eternal punishment.
How do you know? Sounds like reasonable guy. What happens to people in the middle of nowhere in some tribe that has never even heard of God or Jesus or babies that die not knowing god? They burn in hell because nobody bothered to go tell them about this crap? If there was a god I think religions would be a pretty big insult to his intelligence. Shame you can't see this. The Bible says that there is only "one way to the Father through Jesus Christ" and "every knee will bow and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord," Yeah, but another book says it's Muhammed and another says it's Mozes. How do you guys choose which book is right? Maybe it is better to read a book where the things said are actually verifiable and real. 
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