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Your argument reminds me of a couple complaining at pre-paid buffet restaurant (not sure if you guys have these in EU, but there's a few places that charge up front in my city). Their model is if people don't like it, they can take their business elsewhere. I'm assuming the owner had dine and dash customers prior, and wanted to play it safe. I'm not saying people try to evade VAT here, but you have to understand from the owner's perspective. Also, a dude above you comments on how they could charge VAT prior to shipping, and I think that's a good too. But at the end of the day, businesses operate in the best of their interest, not the customers'. If you disagree, just take your business elsewhere like the buffet example above, and that will show them. Maybe when they saw the sales drop, they would change their policy. Just my $0.02
The problem is not what is the best interest of the business but of the legality of charging TVA on a product which is not shipped to a different country. Like I said, VAT can absolutely and should be charged at the time of shipping or be dealt by the shipping company with an invoice, not at the time of purchase. If you host it for 3 years, you will be out of 20% of the price of the item for 3 years. This money could be invested in another field. If you bought 5 cards, you could have bought 6 instead. In the meantime, the vendor will have 20% of the price of the item in his books. What happens if the company goes bankrupt ? Do you have to pay VAT another time because the money if not there anymore (if you bought via fpgaland and get it hosted on mineority which are two differents companies) What happen if mineority goes bankrupt and is unable to ship your card back ? You would have paid 20% more for essentialy nothing. Do you see the issue ? I still do not see how it is illegal since there is no binding contract to keep the cards outside EU. They can always argue because the owner is in EU, so the cards will go there eventually bla...bla..bla...If you think it's illegal, I'd just report them and hear what the authority has to say. In regards to business going bankrupt, you have a good reason there, but the 20% VAT would probably be the last thing I worry about. Anyway, the debate has been going on for longer that I'd like, which was not my intention. If we could shift our focus on legit issues, like productions, software optimizations, ETA and whatnot, that'd be helpful for the community. Why are you still arguing here?  All cards are sold out, please deal it with mineority or fpga.land directly! If they are going to change pricing then everyone gets notified by email or smth. I expect all further posts to be product related as dazzmore pointed out. |
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The Zetheron Dynavolt USB Dongle ($95) will be available for purchase on the Zetheron website in a few days with shipments starting in around 2 weeks. This performs generally the same function as the hard-to-get DC1613A, except that the Dynavolt works right out the box and allows 'live' or dynamic voltage adjustments while mining. Not only does this give the 30% hash boost on the VCU1525 (11 to 15GH/s on 0xToken, for example), but it also allows the mining software to drop the voltage to the minimum possible level where there are still minimal errors, reducing electricity consumption 15% or more.
The Dynavolt is specifically designed to mount on the VCU1525 and 'live' there permanently. It also includes an open-platform API library so other developers can access it as well, for live voltage adjustments and live current/power monitoring.
Eric
Works for BCU as well ? (as BCU is already vmoded) Works for BCU1525 as well; the BCU arrives under-volted, but some algorithms like CN7 require over-volting the FPGA for maximum performance. Core heavy stuff generally runs best at 0.65-0.74V, while RAM heavy stuff runs best at 0.85 - 0.95V. So what you are trying to say is that all hosted BCU cards are not going to achieve 14kh/s of CN7 ? Or is mineority going to fiddle with it to reach max hash? |
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What happens to all orders that got cancelled today? Will you reopen additional units for sale or how are you going to distribute released goods?
Personally, i didnt have enough time to gather funds and my order was cancelled before i got an opportunity to send money.
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I don't understand why do you activate alibaba escrow. It cost less than paypal. Isn't that crazy like Paypal can be.
I use normally since a couple of year when importing from China.
And its offered by ALL the company or people listed on ALibaba.
It does make sense if you plan to ship from China, UNLESS you can't make an invoice.
+1, you should really think about implementing that. There is still time before units are ready for shipping. 18 days from now... |
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Hi all!
We regret to inform you we decided to not use Paypal more. To all who have already paid via Paypal, we have requested a refund. Be calm, all money will return to you.
If you have any problems with the refund you should inform us via e-mail or in this thread.
Your order is maintained for 5 days. During this time you can choose another payment method or cancel the order.
We are truly sorry for the inconvenience.
I propose you to save these order/reserve the miners for users who chose to go with paypal. I still would like to order but after there is proof that you really shipped these and all works out just fine then I'm ready to use other payment methods. |
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--set up an Amazon account
We are in Europe.
Alipay is much more convenient us I can see. And we are working to this direction.
Alipay is good if you can implement it. |
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This is not an actual answer. He just states that Spartan III will do 1.3-1.5kh/s. Doubtful that most of the power comes from AES side(i know nothing about FPGA-s tho..). |
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Dwarf probably is scared to send out test units because we all know that currently there are stickers hiding chip information. And these test units will be definitely disassembled revealing that chip information. And after that we realize that oh god, this is so easy that I can do it ( or something similar that just puts dwarf into bad light etc. )
Currently there is no information about what chip is used.
This still screams SCAM because after units are sent out, we WILL find out about that PCB . And then the truth is harsh...
I dont think knowing the chip model and layout of the board is enough to make it work. It's (according to dwarfminer) supposed to be an FPGA so you sill need to create the pathing and program it. It's not a "any electronician can do it if you have the parts", far from it... Yes, sorry, it isn't easy, software wise.. But why there is no information about what chip is used? Then we can theoretically check if the math works out... |
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Dwarf probably is scared to send out test units because we all know that currently there are stickers hiding chip information. And these test units will be definitely disassembled revealing that chip information. And after that we realize that oh god, this is so easy that I can do it ( or something similar that just puts dwarf into bad light etc. )
Currently there is no information about what chip is used.
This still screams SCAM because after units are sent out, we WILL find out about that PCB . And then the truth is harsh...
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