hope the victims grouping together for a legal battle atleast show proof that the funds were still under karpales control in March. i totally facepalm the fact that governments beleive that karpales is innocent and deserves protection.

hopefully the guy at the SEC that got pirate arrested can also help, as he seems to know enough about bitcoin to see the evidence for what it is.

no wonder why people hate governments. arresting people for not paying a parking ticket. but letting a multimillion dollar extortionist get protection from the government

There is no hope that money will come to you back, forget it!

You was warned by many specialists, governments that bits are very risky.
If you used your savings for this, TRUTH is you are just idiot GREADY PIG, gready pigs gets slatered first - general rule.
Thing is just do not make same mistakes in the future, now you have time to be a wise man.
I know one guy, he's invested more than million, from this forum. He even dont give an any miniml fuck for that, he even already forgot what that's exchanges name was.

Dont blaim all things on Gox and Mark Karpeles. If you lost more than you can afford - that is...  just relax,  jerk , think and learn, somebody pays more in business scholls to learn that but you got live example congratz bro!

Just had to say something good aboyt Mark, helooks like a nice, ambicios and smart guy. But who in this world would give any money to guy - with his pokemon cards exchange!!

NB: Vodka can be heleper too.

Only if you are deaf, dumb, blind, and stupid.

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MtGox may comply with an order from a Japanese court, but based on the Bitcoinica experience they're not going to comply with orders of foreign courts unless they have assets located within the jurisdiction of those courts -which at this stage seems to be Japan and Poland.

People need to remember that they're already embroiled in existing legal actions (both lawsuits and investigations related to money laundering).  Regulators could shut them down at any moment even if they are solvent and other legal actions could drive them out of business long before there's a judgement on any new lawsuit.

It's worrying that Mark is unwilling to make a public statement reassuring people that MtGox has sufficient funds to cover all users balances.  Whenever a company is continuing to allow money to come in but finding more and more ways to delay outgoing payments, the issue of their solvency is going to be front and centre and needs to be addressed urgently.  

MtGox may have no legal obligation to make its accounts public, but an auditor's statement would certainly go along way towards reassuring people that it's financially sound.  The absence of such reassurance is especially baffling given that concerns about a company's solvency can sink it even if it's viable.  It's difficult not to wonder whether MtGox isn't giving that assurance because they're unwilling to make a public statement regarding their solvency which they know to be false (not sure whether this could open them up to further legal consequences in Japan).

People who believe MtGox couldn't possibly be insolvent because of the amount of revenue they've taken in are nuts.  Billion dollar corporations have become insolvent in the past and we know that MtGox has spent large amounts of money on legal proceedings, had funds frozen by financial institutions, and had funds seized.  We have no idea how much it may also have lost to fraud and hacks.  Financial institutions tend not to make such information public because it undermines customer confidence as well as publicising the fact that they are vulnerable, but the amount of losses is not going to be zero.

It's ironic.

To get civil legal assistance, you need to be in USD in MtGox. But, to be in USD means not buying GoxCoins for $95 each.
If you have verified account, you can convert GoxCoins to Bitcoins IMMEDIATELY for 0.35 B/G on bitcoin builder. That's $~200 per GoxCoin or ~$200 per $100 in your account.

So, I wonder why GoxDollar holders are not taking advantage of this arbitration?

Yeah, but I'm just saying that it's pretty worthless if they store the logs.
And if they don't store the logs... well, that's probably illegal, at least in US and Russia

The only safe CoinJoin solution I see is p2p based, with some tricky encryption.

But still I think this will never beat services like bitcoinfog, assuming that they indeed remove the logs as they claim.
I mean: you deposit your money and withdraw ~98% of it, while your deposit is still unspent - destroying a log at this moment leaves absolutely no traces and it's actually a perfect "privacy for the real world".
Though it has two big disadvantages, over p2p coin mixing:
1) You need to trust the service to really destroy the logs
2) It doesn't come for free.

So I also find CoinJoin as a nice and possibly useful project, but IMHO centralizing it would just defeat the purpose.