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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] 2GETHER - THE FIRST EUROPEAN CRYPTO CARD (DELIVERING NOW) on: May 21, 2019, 08:29:55 PM
concerning to buying and selling cryptos, I would like to know if you 2gether are going to inform Spanish Authorities in matter of taxes. I mean if no, we all should write it down each and every crypto operation in order to be able to declare gain/loss at the end of the economical year in the well known spanish IRPF.

If you are using the profit to buy something with the card then you don't need to report to the Spanish TAX authority. On the other hand, if you are cashing out EURO via ATM, you are depositing EURO to your bank account or you buy and sell crypto you should report it. I another word if you use crypto like you could use Dollar then you don't need to report it

Well.. I do not agree. Imagine you buy 10 eur in BTC, you store them in your wallet and after one week you use them to buy a 11 eur thing paying with the card because BTC value has risen. So you have gotten 10% profit, so you have to pay taxes for that, in the case of Spain, 19% so 0.19€.

Am I wrong?

Tu summarizes the answer we got from a Spanish specialist:

  • According to a European Union Court of Justice (ECJ) ruling in 2015, bitcoin (hence any cryptocurrency) is considered as any other means of payment
  • As such, capital gains tax only applies when you sell your crypto back to euros. In that case, it should be treated as any currency / forex investment
  • Hence, if you spend your crypto from your card, no taxes would apply. It is like if I buy pounds today, I wait 6 months and then I go to the UK and spend them. It doesn´t matter if the price of the pound has doubled, I don´t pay any tax.

Of course, each country is sovereign and could have local rulings or even laws that could differ from this, but this is the general rule that we can share with the clients.

My recommendation is that if
 you are going to move significant
 amounts of euros and change them to Bitcoin,
 then pay with the card from the BTC or ETH wallet,
 the logical thing is to save the transactions of
 these operations in case the day of tomorrow You
 need to justify it before the Public Treasury.





Hello Manucre.
I have a friend who works in the Public Treasury, and for a while he recommended that all the transactions in exchange for cryptocurrencies that I have made for a future. That is to say, it has been a long time that he keeps each and every one of them. This does not mean that my friend is right but I just in case I do.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] 2GETHER - THE FIRST EUROPEAN CRYPTO CARD (DELIVERING NOW) on: May 17, 2019, 03:53:42 PM
Well, TIL... So i guess the Maltese government will approve tokens as VFA in batches in the near future


I hope it is not so, if you mean to approve them in batches, that is to say in many quantities without any control.
That would not benefit at all, because there would be an offer of uncontrolled VFA, without fulfilling any legal measure.
What you have to be clear is that the important thing is to be approved by the Government of Malta and we must recognize that 2GETHER, is very well positioned to be the first.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] 2GETHER - THE FIRST EUROPEAN CRYPTO CARD (DELIVERING NOW) on: May 16, 2019, 09:05:54 PM
The Maltese regulator, MFSA, has created a test of financial instruments that helps classify tokens in three key categories:
Utility Token Usually considered a virtual token
Security token It is usually captured under MiFID II and the Local Investment Services Law, and is therefore considered a financial instrument.
Virtual financial asset (VFA). Tokens that can not be considered or electronic money, virtual tokens or security tokens.
if 2GT is about coverting in a VFA. My question if there is currently any token that is treated like this or 2Gether will be the first one.

As I read recently in one of his publications, 2gether is working with Camilleri Preziosi, a leading law firm in Malta, and with Uría Menéndez, a global law firm based in Europe. Camilleri Preziosi is going through the process of becoming a VFA Agent, through one of its subsidiaries. The MFSA is expected to approve the VFA agents at the beginning of the second quarter of 2019. For this reason I think it is the first token that becomes a VFA within Europe and that will be its spontaneous value.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] 2GETHER - THE FIRST EUROPEAN CRYPTO CARD (DELIVERING NOW) on: May 15, 2019, 11:22:51 AM
Can someone tell me of the team if soon in marketing
we are going to have DISCORD with 2gether?
THANKS
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] 2GETHER - THE FIRST EUROPEAN CRYPTO CARD (DELIVERING NOW) on: May 14, 2019, 10:34:22 AM
I've seen Vana's twitter, I would like to ask how many people are the team?
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] 2GETHER - THE FIRST EUROPEAN CRYPTO CARD (DELIVERING NOW) on: May 13, 2019, 06:59:02 AM
Hi, I'm new here, it's my second question and I do not know if the question has already been asked, does this project have a page on youtube?
Thank you
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] 2GETHER - THE FIRST EUROPEAN CRYPTO CARD (DELIVERING NOW) on: May 09, 2019, 08:34:52 PM

Go go go.

does not open friend
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] 2GETHER - THE FIRST EUROPEAN CRYPTO CARD (DELIVERING NOW) on: May 09, 2019, 03:16:50 PM
Just create my account and ordered my Visa card!
#Excited


Remember friend:
You can only make withdrawals at ATMs with the euro or the investment account in crypto, but having the option selected in Euros.
Good luck and tell us how it works.


Hi.
A question
With the Visa card, can you buy cryptocurrencies at Cryptocurrency ATMs that are token that are not in the application?
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TFC The Freedom Coin Fastest Altcoin Pre-Sale is LIVE !!! on: July 09, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
Hi can you tell me when the contest that ended on June 30 is resolved?
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