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To dear fellow investors xax515 and DaFockBro:
Are you fucking serious?!?
You are now crying that you have bought through your account more than 20 stakes to your friends and family. How can this be, it was clearly stated in the OP that you can buy 1 stake for yourself and 1 for your loved ones.
I don't believe a single word of that bullshit that your trying to sell here. You have multi-bought only to yourselfs, just admit it.
As I've already exposed one multi-buyer with over 70+ stakes I will go through you hashes and see for my self the true amount that you've bought. IMO all stakes owned by the same person, over the amount of 2, should be refunded. Period.
I Know little English, I can't express myself 100% with google translator. I am saying that we should ask for ID when we have many people who have bought stakes. I do not have 20 stakes, but I bought one for my mother, and 2 sisters, Total 10 stakes We all live in 60 square meters, with 3 bikes and a dog. And my dream is to get a house, not a mansion. I have insured cover 80% of my stakes now sending ID. If I can only have 4 stakes, I agree. My friends are the last.Utopianfuture decides if I wants me back 5 stakes or not.I don't want to create war, we have enough here to Spain. I Expect the worst, so when something comes, happy. |
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To me it's painful to stay with so many stakes, 15-20-150 stakes? then not distribute to family and friends. It is very sad to criticize the rich, and then get away with a lot of money. I'm meeting friends. For now, I have five insured. They are willing to send ID. I want to ensure stakes to my family and friends. You need to have five detached house? NEM need some monitoring, if we want it to be equal. And early investors, Would have to be well Analyzed, They have not put even a penny.  |
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Somebody keeps pushing the NXT price down. It's really annoying. It's annoying.
It is called a market opportunity.Buy now, that is cheap. Would you rather wait for .001 to double your stake? I think the big stake holders has finally undesrtood that NXT is going nowhere and is starting to dump their coins. IMHO that's BS but who knows. Other as PANAMA0001, another hustler more. NXT to achieved stability, you can't deceive Us! You'll have to buy expensive as many of us. |
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@The whole fraudster and multi account topic.
Koreem and I are already sweeping through the regsitration pages (Koreem has done way more I just started yestersay) and already found some multi-accs. I'm gessing utopian is also looking. The more the merrier so if you have time go ahead and check the blockchains.
If you do it remember that you have to check the history of an address as well. The multi accs I found were only discovered because I checked where the used addresses were funded from in the first place.
As I understand it the current plan is to collect all the intell until fundraising is over and then publicly discuss the cases and refund them if they have more than 10 stakes.
I myself believe that 10 is actually a lot and we should start at 5 but let's hear some thoughts.
What about for the people who gave NXTs to who friends and family who never heard of Cryptocurrencies? For example I gave NXTs to my aunt, and a friend in England. They gave me money for them and I helped them through the process? I also have extensive Facebook conversation helping my England friend out. There still have to be cases like that because as simple as the whole thing is for me, it's virtually impossible for people who are less tech savvy. Many people dismiss me when I tell them about them, but I'm very motivated to help the few that trust me. I think we are opening a can of worms here. If we are going to question everything, why not question the first 20 pages where you can just paste interested and you get a stake. How do we prove there is no multi accounter there? Or how do we weed out the multi-accters in the thread 1 where you can just fund via the exchange? In my view, what is happening here is we are doing selective persecution. We are persecuting the late comers vs those early ones when it seems like free-for-all. Is it because we are already in the thread 1, so we don't want as much people to come in and so, we are starting to persecute those that are in thread 2? (I am registered in thread 1, one of the early few) Let us focus instead on getting the source code up! Or our investment will all go to waste. This is becoming a MOST ENVY MOVEMENT. Just my two cents. You're absolutely right, who invested early, going against the last, without contributing anything to NEM. It can create a war with that, sad. NEM is given time to invest, that's a lot in money matters.  |
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1. sending money that violates "Counter sockpuppet measure" would be considered donation (from page 81 and up)- very easy to check
2. there are more complicated cases in which multiple addresses are created and funded from a mother account which would not violate "Counter sockpuppet measure" ; in these cases, we can apply the "unfairly accumulation" clause and refund the money if we have solid evidences. I still think about the ceiling limit for these cases; exceeding 0.5% of total stakes could be considered "unfairly accumulation", imho.
There will be a period of public auditing of our registration threads and stakeholder list after the fund raising is over for these issues. At this point, I am focusing on weeding out all the fraudsters first.
Excellent, 0.5% is a good good investment. if the percentage is less, nothing happens. It's good to live with what is necessary. Excess money rots us. They can create 10 btc-e mother account, and only OKPAY account to transfer. Sure there are some trickster. Some people think it's crazy, but it's the best: Send identity document for each of the stakes If this happens, NEM would expand the more friends There may also be document forgers. Crazy world.  |
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However, I wrote just to express a bit worry that there seems to be some unfair multi buyin. Not 3-5 stakes are bought by one person. >20 or evern > 100 stakes have been bought by someone. I am in a Chinese QQ group on nxt discussion. I heard from someone in the group saying that one of his friend bought 150 NEM stakes and himself owned 20 stakes. I'm shocked by this news. I thought there must be sth wrong. I agree that more paid, more gain. However, it goes too far from the fair purpose of NEM. If 3000 stakes will be sold, 150 means 5% of total amount. That comes to the case of NXT! Anyone holding greater than 10 stakes may make fairness of NEM UNFAIRNESS.
Me too, I want to know what will be the limit, 0.2%, 0.4% 0.8%? We'll see how many stakes have is the limit. They already warned us:"In short - We can't. Multiple buy-in will be possible with multiple accounts. We also want you to have the ability to buy a NEM stake for your loved ones so they could all join the movement. However accumulating many NEM stakes goes against NEM's principles of fairness and equality, therefore the development team reserves the right to refund you the money if an effort to unfairly accumulate NEM stakes is discovered." |
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