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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] Public auditing of stakeholder list on: March 07, 2014, 11:51:36 PM

Regardless of whatever anyone here thinks, we are a group of friends ( yes i do have them believe it or not) .But Utopia Future has clearly stated in a post earlier that he wishes to limit large groups of friends to 5 stakes. Therefor I shall have 9 of my friends quote and post here for a refund when they are able to. We will have to share. I did pay for most of them anyway.
I will tell them tomorrow.
I do not want to cause a massive argument.
Peace is a good thing.


i bought NXT off of moloch to buy the stake but it seems to be causing problems and spoke about all sharing five stakes
refund 550 NXT
Transaction id: 2187274269494885602
nxt address: 7397574498197696354

sorry for causing more work than needed really hoping to NEM takes off



Hello, I got some nxt from moloch too.
550 nxt
Transaction id: 10652313052149915760
Nxt address   : 828243499558076116


Same...
500 nxt
Transaction id: 1261988046583793332
Nxt address: 14167091394367803765
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What exactly is the point of everyone's hatred of ASIC's? on: February 21, 2014, 03:16:30 AM
i dont agree, the reason that coops are forming is because you need big money to compete right now. but that will all go away sooner then you might imagine.

asic manufacturers have been selling ancient technology for premium prices because there wasn`t anything better. 60nm chips where thrown out of hosting farms a decade ago and been poisioning children in africa ever since because back then they where allready slow and ineficient.
BFL is still selling the same stuff to this day in jallapenos if im not mistaken. there isn`t any competition on the asic market atm. just a big race to where we should have been allready.
asic devs have been leapfrogging, not competing. there is a real difference!

once the dust settles the is no reason anymore for huge farms to exist. there will be some out there, just like there are big ltc farms now. but they wont be a threat because mining will be available to everyone once again...................................       until quantum computing hits the market. i just paid for my preorder. they promised the delivery date will be no later then q3 of 2031 Smiley

If EVERY miner had ASICs, today, right now, and co-ops became a thing of the past, someone would think of something better, and co-ops would start up again for those who couldn't afford the "something better."

To be certain, co-ops will always be there for some who would rather not mess with the mining themselves. But ASICs are hated because they make the "playing field," the mining, too difficult or expensive for some.

ASICs should be hated because they help the 51% monopoly to become more of a reality.

Smiley

and what he said Smiley
You cant compete with the "big guys" with the "big money"
In the end bitcoin "possibly" will become the very thing it was meant to fight against.
"They" will control what happens to your money when it serves their interest at the time.
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What exactly is the point of everyone's hatred of ASIC's? on: February 21, 2014, 03:05:42 AM
So much energy being wasted on mining, save the planet maaaaaaannn. But seriously, there is so much energy/power being used in mining. It's an obscene amount.

How much energy do you think it takes to ship fiat currency around the world? To print it? How many resources do bank branches and sky scrapers use? These things are much more obscene in wasting energy but that is just my opinion.

I do understand your point on this matter. What I really mean to point out was that with POW coins the energy levels required are just going to increase more and more, and there are more and more of these type of coins popping up all the time which is just adding to the power load. There are far more energy efficient coins out there that use things such as POS and their future hybrids/improvements. Although in there infancy they could lessen the power drain once developed further.
I do understand your point though on the processing power drain fiat causes.
Just a thought though, I am not an expert ( obviously) and should probably stop talking now  Grin
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 21, 2014, 12:32:41 AM
I agree with most of the comments. For most of the BTC clones; the dependency on BTC is endemic. For NXT; I noticed that it is still problematic because, while the value of the coin respecting BTC increases; the value respecting any fiat currency (which at the end, are the currencies that can allow you to buy stuff and transfer value to the cryptocurrencies) is going down or it is keep in best cases. This is not good since it makes cryptocurrencies only useful as a high risk invesment instrument more proper for speculation. This is at the opposite of the NEM concept. IMO, the questions to solve are:
1. How to get independency from BTC
2. How to transfer value from the real world to NEM in a direct way (so then merchant can use directly)
3. How to establish an easy fiat-NEM exchange that goes in line with point 2

I think it is important to think how to solve these issues before launching or, at least to have some ideas how to do it. I am confident that the dev team can work in a solution but, as a community I think we need to discuss these issues

I agree 100% with this.
It should be our focus right now when we have the time

Nem into fiat?
One possible way is to follow the localbitcoins.com example. The local (insert coin here) .com is already a well known name. So if anyone with the tech know-how is able to make such a site, that could be a small step in the right direction. Possibly.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 21, 2014, 12:26:21 AM
simplicity is better, if you have to try to work out what it actually says, or the meaning, then I think we are going in the wrong direction. Simple but unique is the answer.
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What exactly is the point of everyone's hatred of ASIC's? on: February 21, 2014, 12:18:00 AM
So much energy being wasted on mining, save the planet maaaaaaannn. But seriously, there is so much energy/power being used in mining. It's an obscene amount.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEM -4 billion coins- Equal Shares for ALL - Registration thread (part 2) on: February 04, 2014, 12:40:35 AM
500 nxt sent

Transaction id: 1261988046583793332
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