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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cluster2k and VaultMex on: January 18, 2019, 03:12:39 PM
I apologize to this community if I being rude or overly aggressive yesterday with this discussion. I am
Just frustrated with the situation. It sucks losing any amount of money but I am glad it was less than two hundred dollars, that is the price I pay for this lesson I have learned. Judging by Cluster2k’s profile it looks like it cost him a ledgenary account, which I would place at a much higher value. I would like to thank this community for that.

2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cluster2k and VaultMex on: January 17, 2019, 07:12:52 PM
A simple solution to the problems which I have stated is to disable self-moderated threads entirely. What purpose do they serve except to aid fraudulent activity or people attempting to hide something from others?

To allow reputable users to create threads free of spam and trolling.


Except its being used as a tool to defraud people.

Restrict it or make it a privilege, otherwise, it is a mistake.

I am starting to understand why cryptocurrencies in general are precived in a negative light by the general population. None of this will ever go main stream with this kind of ideology.
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cluster2k and VaultMex on: January 17, 2019, 03:04:26 PM
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At this very moment, someone on this forum could be reading one of his self-moderated threads, full of positive feedback from his alternate forums profiles and decide to invest in one of the coins listed on VaultMex.

That's true, but it is very difficult to help people who don't help themselves at least a little bit.
Should your scenario indicate the depth of due diligence that the theoretical investor thinks adequate, then unfortunately it will only be a matter of time before he gets scammed somewhere along the line.
Search VaultMex in the forum search and critical threads are listed, search VaultMex in Google and "Scam Exchange VaultMeX!" is on this first page.
Involving moderators in any but the simplest value judgments is not practical or, to some, desirable.


I would not recommend to anyone to do research on these forums as long as there exist self-moderated threads.

When using Google to research cryptocurrency based information it is also advisable to skip over any result that is linked to these forums.

For an example a search result placement that reads "Scam Exchange VaultMeX!" means nothing if it were created by someone with a biased agenda against the exchange using a self-moderated thread option. It could just as easily say anything with nothing administrative enforcing any kind of ethical value related to business.

That is the result of the policies put in place on these forums.

A simple solution to the problems which I have stated is to disable self-moderated threads entirely. What purpose do they serve except to aid fraudulent activity or people attempting to hide something from others?
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cluster2k and VaultMex on: January 17, 2019, 02:26:04 PM

What is preventing him from using his many forum accounts to sabotage the trust level on another person's account?

I mean the way he did it in that image was obvious and stupid, but what is there to prevent a more systematic deliberate attempt spread out over a duration of time?


His untrusted feedback (and any untrusted feedback that he may leave from alt accounts) is pretty meaningless in the great scheme of things.
There's no way to prevent, in advance, anyone doing anything  if they are determined, systematic and deliberate about it.
Using Trust Ratings improperly is a problem sometimes. The Reputation Child Board is one of the checks and balance mechanism the forum has for that, but moderators are not empowered to act (unless in extreme cases) as Theymos seems to see trust as a P2P situation.

What merits disciplinary action from moderators on these forums?

I have seen a lot of damage caused by multi-account users in my time, everything from spoofing bids during auctions to spreading or supporting false accusations.

SCENARIO ONE,

At this very moment, someone on this forum could be reading one of his self-moderated threads, full of positive feedback from his alternate forums profiles and decide to invest in one of the coins listed on VaultMex.

This user will learn that he cannot withdraw any of the assets that he invested into this exchange and after doing some research promptly learns that it is the policy of these forums to do nothing to prevent instances such as what just happened to him.

This forum member ceases using these forums as a result.


SCENARIO TWO,

A scammer learns from similar activities mentioned in the first scenario and decides to push the envelope even further, therefore, creating more instances of fraud and abuse. Other scammers see the same opportunity and proceed to advance their agenda and exploit it even further.
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cluster2k and VaultMex on: January 17, 2019, 01:50:21 PM
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If you think about it, the nonsense feedback that he is leaving rebounds on him and confirms his lack of credibility.

What is preventing him from using his many forum accounts to sabotage the trust level on another person's account?

I mean the way he did it in that image was obvious and stupid, but what is there to prevent a more systematic deliberate attempt spread out over a duration of time?

When I worked in the adult industry I spent a lot of time on GFY.com and I can tell you it is for reasons like the one I have mentioned above that multiple account offenders received bans.
6  Economy / Services / Re: SELLING COIN MARKET CAP & CRYPTO NEWS WEBSITE: COINCAPS.AI on: January 17, 2019, 01:42:26 PM
I see another self-moderated thread, so I am sure the following will be deleted.


How are we suppose to know there isn't some angle here to scam someone with something as complicated as a transfer of a business asset?

I mean honestly, considering your trust level and all.

If you do somehow manage to sell it, please use some of the funds to repay the money that I have stuck on your exchange. Its been almost a month already.

7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cluster2k and VaultMex on: January 17, 2019, 01:30:20 PM
Is there not some policy in place to protect the members of this forum from being scammed?

Unfortunately, no.  Scams are not moderate to prevent moderator abuse.  The best thing to do continue to bring awareness and encourage more DT members to leave negative feed back on the trust wall of those involved.  

Can the moderators at least do something about this feedback he is leaving people?



If not I must ask with all due respect, what is it exactly are they moderating?
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cluster2k and VaultMex on: January 16, 2019, 08:50:09 AM
How is it right that he gets to keep bumping this self-moderated thread while continuously deleting comments regarding people not having access to their funds?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4987019.140


All he is doing is using the traffic generated from these forums to victimize more forum members. Is there not some policy in place to protect the members of this forum from being scammed?

I guess I just don't see how it is in the best interest of these forums to allow this kind of fraudulent activity to take place.

9  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: VaultMeX on: January 13, 2019, 12:47:53 PM
Well the fact that he is obviously more concerned about the “likes” or whatever on a forum profile than he is with all the people who can’t withdraw their money from his exchange should speak volumes.
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: VaultMeX on: January 12, 2019, 03:07:44 PM
So it is possible that all these different accounts are the same person with the intent of manipulating the merit and trust system on this message forum to generate business?

Would a moderator be able to confirm this? I would think that a possible situation such as this should warrant an investigation by them as it strikes against the integrity of these systems put in place.

If this can be established I will edit this thread again to include the Cluster2k profile in the title of the thread.

I am fairly certain that Cluster2k is either still closely associated with or is in fact the VaultMex account as I was just banned from their discord after a heated private conversation with Cluster2k regarding this thread.

11  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: VaultMeX on: January 11, 2019, 03:43:48 PM
Cluster2K is acting like a lot like a guilty party.  He deleted my reply to his self moderated thread where he accused Suchmoon of trust abuse, then he locked the thread.  But, he didn't delete Cryptohunter's response to my comment, in which I was quoted.  WTF?

Archive of the thread is here: http://archive.fo/CknSp

My deleted post:

Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

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The thread you linked to above included this post from you:

After the last months of problems, issues, angry customers, death threats received, funds frozen by the exchange (including my own) I decided to take a step out from all these things. Now I'm not part of the exchange "team" anymore.

And then you wrote:

As already explained they paid for that service and I'm not gonna remove it until the end of the promotion.

So, if you are paid by scammers to help promote their scam you are, and should be held accountable.  If some one paid me to advertise their service on my website, then I and others were scammed by that service I would cease to promote their service, and refund their money for the remaining duration of their contract.

Suchmoon's rating is justified in my opinion.

On top of the shady behavior of promoting a project he himself admitted is scammy, he displays even more shady behavior by attempting to silence his critics.


Notice how in VaultMex's profile he also uses the term "Abuse of Trust System" when attempting to get revenge on another forum user for leaving him negative trust.
12  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: VaultMeX on: January 11, 2019, 03:14:06 PM
VaultMex Partners Links
 CoinCaps.ai: http://www.coincaps.ai/
MnRank.com: https://mnrank.com/
AltcoinAnn: http://www.altcoinann.com/
CryptoHashTank: https://mns.cryptohashtank.net/
 Mncn.online: https://mncn.online/  
CryptoPiece: https://cryptopiece.com/
TradersGateway: http://tradersgateway.net/

How many of these can be tied to Cluster2K?

Notice the crosslinking:

13  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: VaultMeX on: January 11, 2019, 02:39:39 PM
Is it possible that Cluster2k is VaultMex?

It's starting to look that way. I'm having trouble to imagine another reason why a Legendary account would fall on the sword for this shitty exchange. Some banner ads and a ref link on a site that nobody's heard of... how much could it possibly be worth.

How can we confirm this either way?

I was starting to suspect this when I noticed similarities in the phrases that both of them used during conversations.
14  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: VaultMeX on: January 11, 2019, 01:55:42 PM
Is it possible that Cluster2k is VaultMex?
15  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: VaultMeX on: January 09, 2019, 05:07:47 PM
I posted this on discord earlier: "@VaultMeX What are the upgrades which require "investigating" account balances? If it's a security thing why not require 2FA and email confirmations for withdrawals? That way people can confirm their own withdrawals like every other exchange and you don't have to deal with the backlash from so many people not having access to their funds."

I checked now and it has been deleted.


It doesn't look like that anything got fixed to me. It is a real shame that someone would put effort into building an exchange just to mismanage and destroy it.


16  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: VaultMeX on: January 08, 2019, 05:30:13 PM
VaultMeX actually responded on Discord. Their message is: "Withdrawals are fine
if your withdrawals are not going through this means we are doing investigation on your accounts balances due to backend upgrades"

How "backend" upgrades relate to having to investigate accounts I'm not sure.

He has been saying it was a maintenance issue for several weeks now. The problem is that this maintenance issue never gets resolved. I hope I am wrong and we all get our coins but it doesn't seem like that is the case.

I just tried to withdraw again and it still is the same problem.
17  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: VaultMeX - Cluster2k on: January 06, 2019, 04:21:10 PM
Thank you, i really appreciate your understanding and your collaboration. As you can see i just removed myself from the VMX team in their discord.

I really hope that VMX won't turn into a scam but as far as I know from my position there wasn't any lack of funds or any malicious activity going on with the exchange. I mean sometime they had server issues, updates/upgrades which took quick downtime but never had the suspect they wanted to scam. however I want to apologise I have been rude in my time on the VMX discord but as you can imagine i got stressed so much by many users for so various complaints I just can't handle.

Hope that also suchmoon will think the same.

Kind regards.

VaulMeX is still #1 exchange on Coincaps.ai

They paid for it until June 2019, I won't remove it until it is scam confirmed in any way. I think is not fair to remove that paid service.

EDIT: I'm also afk so I'm not able to make any changes to coincaps.ai website from here.

That is reasonable as nobody should expect you to violate a contract. However, next time you enter into a contractual agreement remember to add the necessary provisions protecting the best interests of your business entities.
18  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: VaultMeX - Cluster2k on: January 06, 2019, 03:58:14 PM
Thank you, i really appreciate your understanding and your collaboration. As you can see i just removed myself from the VMX team in their discord.

I really hope that VMX won't turn into a scam but as far as I know from my position there wasn't any lack of funds or any malicious activity going on with the exchange. I mean sometime they had server issues, updates/upgrades which took quick downtime but never had the suspect they wanted to scam. however I want to apologise I have been rude in my time on the VMX discord but as you can imagine i got stressed so much by many users for so various complaints I just can't handle.

Hope that also suchmoon will think the same.

Kind regards.

VaulMeX is still #1 exchange on Coincaps.ai

Your right that should definitely be removed.

However, I will give him time to either remove it or let the contract expire if that's the case.
19  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: VaultMeX - Cluster2k on: January 06, 2019, 02:05:23 PM
I want to clarify all the things happened with my involvments with Vaultmex as I posted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5051231.new#new

I was marked as "community leader " on Vaultmex discord because I got paid for doing that job. I have no access to servers control nor to funds managements. I only had a connection with a anon guy called "mark" which i was referring to for listing etc.

I was involved since the start with this exchange because I am a coin coder and after i found about the release of Vaultmex I asked them if they would have listed a coin of one of my clients and talking further i got that they needing someone to mod their discord. There i proposed myself for the role and started working on it.

After the last months of problems, issues, angry customers, death threats received, funds frozen by the exchange (including my own) I decided to take a step out from all these things. Now I'm not part of the exchange "team" anymore.

I please you to remove the negative trust on my profile in light of the reasons above.

Hope in your understanding.


Thank you Cluster2k, I did not think that you had any ill intentions because of your reputation and long-standing history here.

I just wasn't sure to the extent of your role and whether or not you had any responsibility regarding the missing funds.

I removed my negative feedback and will edit the post to exclude you. However, I might require the assistance of a moderator to edit the thread title.

Thank you, i really appreciate your understanding and your collaboration. As you can see i just removed myself from the VMX team in their discord.

I really hope that VMX won't turn into a scam but as far as I know from my position there wasn't any lack of funds or any malicious activity going on with the exchange. I mean sometime they had server issues, updates/upgrades which took quick downtime but never had the suspect they wanted to scam. however I want to apologise I have been rude in my time on the VMX discord but as you can imagine i got stressed so much by many users for so various complaints I just can't handle.

Hope that also suchmoon will think the same.

Kind regards.

Yes, I saw it when you stepped down. You guys weren't going to keep me banned because all I had to do was open a new TOR browser and pick a new username.

I hope the issues with VaultMex get resolved as well.

The server issues that you speak of only became a major concern when those issues went weeks without resolution and people started reporting funny activity with wallets in the blockchain explorers.

I am sorry that you had to leave a paying gig, but you did the right thing leaving that position because you really don't want your longstanding good reputation ruined if the situation with that exchange goes sideways.

With that said, I think your stepping down is going to expedite the situation towards whichever direction it was headed. The exchange will either disappear or VaultMex is going to fix the long-standing wallet issues.

I sincerely hope that VaultMex chooses the latter, he can learn a lesson for this and redeem his exchange. The internet is generally a forgiving community.

20  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: VaultMeX - Cluster2k on: January 06, 2019, 01:34:11 PM
I want to clarify all the things happened with my involvments with Vaultmex as I posted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5051231.new#new

I was marked as "community leader " on Vaultmex discord because I got paid for doing that job. I have no access to servers control nor to funds managements. I only had a connection with a anon guy called "mark" which i was referring to for listing etc.

I was involved since the start with this exchange because I am a coin coder and after i found about the release of Vaultmex I asked them if they would have listed a coin of one of my clients and talking further i got that they needing someone to mod their discord. There i proposed myself for the role and started working on it.

After the last months of problems, issues, angry customers, death threats received, funds frozen by the exchange (including my own) I decided to take a step out from all these things. Now I'm not part of the exchange "team" anymore.

I please you to remove the negative trust on my profile in light of the reasons above.

Hope in your understanding.


Thank you Cluster2k, I did not think that you had any ill intentions because of your reputation and long-standing history here.

I just wasn't sure to the extent of your role and whether or not you had any responsibility regarding the missing funds.

I removed my negative feedback and will edit the post to exclude you. However, I might require the assistance of a moderator to edit the thread title.
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