already has...these clowns did exactly that.

https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/asicminer/zeon-180k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2ShiLjvP4M

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What say you???

This is typical of NH. You are not "mining". You are renting your hash power. The zero is when the miner switches from user to user I believe.

Oh yes, I see now that you clearly stated that in your post. Apologies. I'm afraid I'd only be at $100.00 per miner without PSU.

I did, you said you could get more on Ebay. I would buy them for $140.00 per set.

Several members of this forum are regularly buying S9/PSU sets for $140.00-$150.00. You're price is out of line with current market. There are literally 10's of 1000's of S9's on the secondary market. New and used.

All true, and let's not forget the influx of cold hard cash into a balance sheet that is choking on it's own fumes. This Bitdeer scam cash may just help keep them alive. I have serious doubts that they will execute this IPO within the time frame previously stated. No underwriter in their right mind would get involved in that given Bitmain's current travails.

DING DING DING!! As per usual, Philipma rings the bell. I have zero doubt that this is true. No shortage of stunned morons in Crypto land...

There...I fixed it for you...

Do they work? I'll buy them. Trashing perfectly good machinery doesn't seem too rational.

I KNOW!! I saw that! Ruined my proclamation!!  LOL.

Estimated Next Difficulty:   5,399,698,568,915 (+5.74%)

This will be 8-9% by the next epoch. Mark my words.

Price, Tariffs and shipping make it cost prohibitive.

I'm finding brand new S9i 14 th in the states that I can physically pick up and avoid shipping altogether. $220.00 WITH PSU in original unopened box. Then I pop the ASICBoost Frimware upgrade on them and I can't believe how reliable smooth and efficient these units are. These are my favorite of all S9's to date. I'm sub .05 per Kwh so it's an easy call. I have absolutely no reason to even think about these new units. Not to mention, they haven't been running enough to get sense of their reliability. These things could very well turn out to be an RMA fest.

Well I can say one thing with absolute, utter certainty. Bitcoin difficulty will now, absolutely, without a doubt, " go sideways for the rest of the year ".

HA! Ya see what I did there.

For any viewers of this thread who are unfamiliar with Robert and his business. I have done several transactions with Robert/KABOOM Racks over the last 6-8 months. Every transaction was handled very professionally and he stands behind the products above and beyond what any other other sellers that I've dealt with in the past. He has acted as "Escrow" for me as well and there were no problems whatsoever. I endorse this seller without reservation and will continue to do business with him in the future. BTW, I do not know Robert personally and this is a completely "unrewarded" endorsement.  I just appreciate an honest and reliable venue to do business in. As we all know too well, the scammers are everywhere.

I gotta wonder...the wild card in the deck now is, do more miners come on due to the drop or do more fall off due to overbuilt, overpriced operations finally bleeding out? Based on your recent analysis, without new lows in price, we may see a type of equilibrium on difficulty moves for the near term for those paying around .055 per KWH. I am writing calls against my BTC position today because this " revived hashing power " is basically in need of USD's to pay overhead and expenses. Once Mining Pool deposits hit tonight in the wee hours, we should see a selling of any recent miner earnings. I'm taking a stand at $3,500.00 - $3,600.00 at least for the next week or two.

A good example of how transient the Hashing power is today. BTC rallies $350.00 and Machines get turned back on in an instant.


I'm willing to bet that without new lows in BTC the next jump will be....well... a "jump".

I have no doubt about this. I watched their order flows on my trading platform as I was constantly focusing on some Yield enhancement trades I work on. Their footprint is so obvious. They are not very clever or strategic in their order executions. First of all, most of these "Block Type" orders are on the platforms during the daylight hours in China. Second, they put very large "block sell" orders in at a price to insure that they are in "maker" order status. This allows them to execute at low to no fees. Obviously this means they must rely on a buyer to lift their resting offer. When these " on the offer orders" do not trade, they simply chase the market down and continually adjust their offer price lower. Always with the remainder of the un-executed volume of the original offer. I, and I'm sure many other experienced traders that are much larger than me, just wait and watch until these fools chase the market into resting bids well below where they started trying to sell. As soon as I see real bid side volume appear I just race in front of that and get long. 9 times out of 10 it's a free trade. Once Bitmain's large offer is executed, there is nothing but air on the offer side for $20, $50, sometimes $100 in upside price. Try it some time. You'll be amazed. I could literally retire off the terrible execution Bitmain employs, on one day of their sell orders. They waste $100's of thousands of dollars daily ( Nightly ) as a result of their amateur trading stupidity.

Thanks for the warning Phil. I think your Bitmain revenue numbers are off. They touted inflated numbers at 4 Billion last year. AMD didn't make that much since their inception. I found $4 billion highly suspect. So given the mess they've created, I strongly believe that Bitmain is extremely close to insolvency. Jihan Wu and his "fight to the death" for BCH, likely was referring to his own death. There is little question  that Bitmain was/is a LARGE holder of BTC/BCH. I'm willing to bet that they have lost 50% of their liquid assets in this. It would explain this harebrained Bitdeer illusion. Too bad there are people stupid enough to get back in bed with them. This looks like desperation to me on Bitmain's part. SO many metrics working against them now. They definitely deserve it.