Zersiedlung und Landwirtschaft sind die Hauptzerstoerer unserer Biosphaere
Der Mensch muss lernen dichter zusammenzuruecken: In der Sahara bekommt man locker auch 200 Mrd Menschen unter. 4km hohe Kegelhabitate mit 20km Basisdurchmesser. An den Flanken fuer jeden eine 100qm Wohnung mit Terasse.
Im Innern hydroponische und biotechnische Anlagen zur Nahrungsmittelerzeugung, Produktion und Freizeit.
Personen- und Guetertransport zwischen den Kegeln vorwiegend unterirdisch (Hyperloop), ueberirdisch mit Drohnen. Parklandschaften zwischen den Kegeln.
So kann sich die Biosphaere und Artenvielfalt wieder erholen.
Das Naheliegendste ist also nicht Bevoelkerungsreduktion, sondern Lebensraumvedichtung und die Schaffung von Energiequellen hoher Leistungsdichte zur Erzeugung eines Ueberflusses an Energie.
Zum Kurs: Der ist bei einem solchen Szenario eher irrelevant, da diese "Utopie" ohnehin erst umgesetzt werden kann sofern es dem Menschen (hoffentlich bald) gelingt die monetaere Wirtschaft zu ueberwinden.
Das klingt nach P.M. Magazin  Vor allem sind das Visionen, die nicht auf Plausiblität, Durchführbarkeit und Folgeeffekte geprüft wurden. Sowas schafft in der Regel nur weitere Probleme. Eine Routine, die seit Abergenerationen besteht und die wohl erst in der nächsten oder übernächsten Entwicklungsstufe des Menschen der Vergangenheit angehören wird. Homo sapiens? lol Bis es soweit ist bietet auch die Meeresoberflaeche reichlich Lebensraum. Ausserhalb der 12 Meilen-Zone kann man auch seinen eigenen Staat gruenden: https://oceanix.org/ |
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Das naheliegendste und beste Konzept, auf das erst kürzlich die Elite-Forscher der ETH Zürich gekommen sind, ist flächendeckend viel Wald anzupflanzen bzw zu schützen. Lol no brainer aber richtig.
Das wird natürlich nicht befolgt... warum auch
Mehr Wald schadet absolut nicht. Das naheliegende Konzept ist jedoch, die 8 Mrd. deutlich zu reduzieren. Das löst übrigens gleich noch ein paar zusätzliche Probleme. Zersiedlung und Landwirtschaft sind die Hauptzerstoerer unserer Biosphaere Der Mensch muss lernen dichter zusammenzuruecken: In der Sahara bekommt man locker auch 200 Mrd Menschen unter. 4km hohe Kegelhabitate mit 20km Basisdurchmesser. An den Flanken fuer jeden eine 100qm Wohnung mit Terasse. Im Innern hydroponische und biotechnische Anlagen zur Nahrungsmittelerzeugung, Produktion und Freizeit. Personen- und Guetertransport zwischen den Kegeln vorwiegend unterirdisch (Hyperloop), ueberirdisch mit Drohnen. Parklandschaften zwischen den Kegeln. So kann sich die Biosphaere und Artenvielfalt wieder erholen. Das Naheliegendste ist also nicht Bevoelkerungsreduktion, sondern Lebensraumvedichtung und die Schaffung von Energiequellen hoher Leistungsdichte zur Erzeugung eines Ueberflusses an Energie. Zum Kurs: Der ist bei einem solchen Szenario eher irrelevant, da diese "Utopie" ohnehin erst umgesetzt werden kann sofern es dem Menschen (hoffentlich bald) gelingt die monetaere Wirtschaft zu ueberwinden. |
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Note: If you do not understand the meaning of 0Byte, then it is your own fault, not 0Byte.  |
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0Byte to compare with other shitcoins fits. Fact: You don't have any users except a few nerds (and you won't get any). First create a benefit and then implement the gimmicks. That would have been the right way. |
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Why limit yourself to just payments You not limiting yourself, you just use what you need and drop all unnecessary. For most of the merchants only simple payments are necessary. Recurring payments are useful for some business, but as you said even PayPal provide it. The regime lives in its own echo chamber and filter bubble. The fact that the unregulated niche market doubles every year until it is soon no longer a niche market and that there are now also quite normal things of daily needs offered is simply filtered away. It cannot be what must not be. So simple is the world in the 0Byte universe. |
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There is no need to be ultra illegal or ultra legal. Both markets are open and it would be great to be accepted on both. But both legal and illegal markets completely ignore Obyte.
The only target group for crypto currencies is the unregulated market. A decentralized solution is urgently needed there. And only on this market there is a serious demand for cryptos, because it only makes sense there. The masses are not interested in cryptos. It will only deal with cryptos because of the increasingly attractive unregulated markets. Already two years ago the 0Byte regime was made aware of it. They have mainly developed gadgets that nobody currently needs and will probably soon be implemented by a state coin. The state has the monopoly on regulated markets. |
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i mean ok, you don't like illegal things. Where is the legal things then? Even random pornocoin will have more usecases then Obyte. Shame
For legal goods and services there are Paypal and credit cards. They fulfil the requirements splendidly. The Zero-Byte regime now lacks the foresight that the unregulated market double every year. The unregulated market not only offers illegal goods, but the suppliers there have an interest in using a marketplace where they can act freely without being confronted with the usual harassment by state authorities. |
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Witness decentralization is in process and there was just lately news that new witness candidates will be announced soon. https://twitter.com/ObyteOrg/status/1095977601271820288Witnesses are behind TOR so they are not vulnerable to DDoS, but you don't know that because you just like to FUD without actually learning how things work. Apparently, you don't even understand the difference between the hub and witnesses. The witnesses are not anonymous, they are tangible by name and thus also their technique. So what? Are saying that you will "convince" over 6 witnesses to collude at the same time to double-spend? Because that is all they can do if they collude, they have no other role, they don't approve or disapprove the transactions, so if you could get over 6 witnesses to collude then you can fxck over one merchant and all those witnesses would get replaced. Or you are trying to say that some government could shut down 6 witnesses at once, even if they are located all around the world? Why? It wouldn't change the thing, it would be hard forked to start again with different witnesses. What's your point? Do you have like anything valuable to add? Or you come up with some other non-issue? Or you suggestion is that the witnesses should be anonymous? Ever heard Sybil attack? I guess not. You are aware of the basic criticism: Due to a lack of foresight you overlook the current needs and show yourself incapable to position this project for the future. The technical shortcomings are then added, but can be changed under circumstances, if not, then even worse. Your criticism is valueless because it is not even technically accurate. You just like to FUD. Fact: You're ignoring the real need. Why? - Answer: Because you know that your witnesses will go to jail if you serve that real demand.  |
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Witness decentralization is in process and there was just lately news that new witness candidates will be announced soon. https://twitter.com/ObyteOrg/status/1095977601271820288Witnesses are behind TOR so they are not vulnerable to DDoS, but you don't know that because you just like to FUD without actually learning how things work. Apparently, you don't even understand the difference between the hub and witnesses. The witnesses are not anonymous, they are tangible by name and thus also their technique. So what? Are saying that you will "convince" over 6 witnesses to collude at the same time to double-spend? Because that is all they can do if they collude, they have no other role, they don't approve or disapprove the transactions, so if you could get over 6 witnesses to collude then you can fxck over one merchant and all those witnesses would get replaced. Or you are trying to say that some government could shut down 6 witnesses at once, even if they are located all around the world? Why? It wouldn't change the thing, it would be hard forked to start again with different witnesses. What's your point? Do you have like anything valuable to add? Or you come up with some other non-issue? Or you suggestion is that the witnesses should be anonymous? Ever heard Sybil attack? I guess not. You are aware of the basic criticism: Due to a lack of foresight you overlook the current needs and show yourself incapable to position this project for the future. The technical shortcomings are then added, but can be changed under circumstances, if not, then even worse. |
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Witness decentralization is in process and there was just lately news that new witness candidates will be announced soon. https://twitter.com/ObyteOrg/status/1095977601271820288Witnesses are behind TOR so they are not vulnerable to DDoS, but you don't know that because you just like to FUD without actually learning how things work. Apparently, you don't even understand the difference between the hub and witnesses. The witnesses are not anonymous, they are tangible by name and thus also their technique. |
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Still saving some of these coins for a very long time, since its name byteball and now becoming an obyte I still add to the supply little by little, I'm sure the price will reach a very high point later, of course for 2019 I don't think it's time to go.
That's to be hoped. As soon as that's the case, I'll sell the shit. |
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The main Obyte hub is currently not available. The admin has been notified and it will be back online shortly. You can use one of the other hubs currently available from this list: https://wiki.obyte.org/Hub#List_of_hubsCentral witnesses, central hubs. A decentralized currency that cannot be attacked looks different. Sorry, but nobody really needs that. |
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Can anyone tell me what the byteball ICOs are doing? Have I heard about some Titan coin?
Maybe that is more appropriate topic for that question because this is Obyte annoncements topic, not Titan coin. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2378943.0It would be embarrassing if it was written here, wouldn't it? |
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Above all, it shows that "the team" constantly refuses to develop a real benefit that appeals to the only target group that really needs crypto currencies.
A topic which consistently bounces off the filter bubble. The tarmo commentary makes this all too clear again. The uncomfortable essence of the criticism is simply filtered out.
Yeah, but maybe you are the one who don't see the big picture. The goal is a wide adoption, not just some black market niche, who already has plenty of options. The growth of the market niche, which you refuse to serve, doubles annually. For sure it's not me who doesn't see the big picture. There is still no other target group. Leave your Echo Chamber and finally arrive in reality. Nobody is really interested in a coin that is as decentralized as a central bank. There are therefore more trustworthy alternatives to cash. Furthermore: (Zero-)Byte... the association... that is not money. |
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Above all, it shows that "the team" constantly refuses to develop a real benefit that appeals to the only target group that really needs crypto currencies.
A topic which consistently bounces off the filter bubble. The tarmo commentary makes this all too clear again. The uncomfortable essence of the criticism is simply filtered out.
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this coin have one of the biggest community, it's really a Pity not on any major exchanges
how about binance?
Anyone could use BISQ without registration and KYC, then at least the volume would increase there. Furthermore one would have his money under constant own control. - Other Exchanges do not need serious users. But of course you are right: Except for speculation, Zero-Byte is not usable. No amount of new exchanges would make Obyte suddenly moon in bear market. When Bitcoin goes up, altcoins go up, when Bitcoin drops, altcoins drop even more. Bittrex is one of the major exchanges and you don't need BISQ to buy bytes without KYC. Even Byte-BTC exchange bot in Obyte wallet has more volume than on BISQ for same pair. For low-volume altcoins like Obyte, the biggest factor that affects the price is amount of people who are willing to dump the bytes at any price. If the buy wall is only as strong as 25GB then anybody with 100GB can make the price drop hard by just selling all at once. Now if you have more markets with even weaker buy walls then users have even more options where they can dump the price. There needs to be more demand before more exchanges. Users who FUD the coins that they themselves hodl are the biggest mystery for me. I think that only happens in crypto-verse, haven't noticed any other investors doing something stupid as that. crypto currencies (sure, Zero-Byte is not one of them) are of course only useful for decentralized exchanges. BISQ also offers the possibility to exchange BTC for Fiat (and vice versa) without KYC. Those who use centralized exchanges, such as Bittrex, have not understood decentralized crypto currencies. Since even the developers don't understand this, one shouldn't be surprised that apart from speculators hardly anyone is interested in it. The critics invested in Crypto do not spread FUD but facts that are uncomfortable for the echo chamber. It is logical that it is in their interest that "the team" should come to their senses. |
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this coin have one of the biggest community, it's really a Pity not on any major exchanges
how about binance?
Anyone could use BISQ without registration and KYC, then at least the volume would increase there. Furthermore one would have his money under constant own control. - Other Exchanges do not need serious users. But of course you are right: Except for speculation, Zero-Byte is not usable. |
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but it seems that it is general difficult of crypto, not only Obyte. what is mean that obyte is not better other shit You're wrong about that. They sell portable coolers in the Antarctic, while their competitors sell heavy refrigerators and freezers there. |
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You talk about the price. Of course, the price of most coins is rising in a bull market. There is no need to be an expert, create a portfolio of shit at random, divide the deposit into parts and buy all the deeps, a year, two, three, up to zero prices it does not matter. You will either lose if you was the last fool or win if you will see another bull.
I meant adoption, the only logical explanation for the existence of cryptocurrency. Obyte saw all types of markets and was not adopted on any of them. There is no reason why this story will not happen again if we will see another bull cycle. It is for this reason that I believe that the point is not in market cycles, but in the absence of network effects. After all Obyte lost community on the bull market.
Don't bother. This has been the topic for two years. On this ear the team is deaf. It feels comfortable in its echo chamber and continues to develop gimmicks without demand. Apart from gambling, there is no target group worth mentioning, and even those are served more comfortably outside the crypto scene. |
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There aren't many merchants in Ukraine that accept other cryptocurrencies (there are very few for Bitcoin), so it would be surprising to see altcoins accepted there first, but I would look that as opportunity, anybody can become the first merchant to accept Bytes. Only two coins have sufficient network effects to have the hope of being widely accepted over time only thanks to the efforts of the holders of this coin. The rest of the coins not achieved such a thrust, so we observe their degradation. Their community and adoption is not only not growing, it is decreasing. In their case, the hope is only on the efforts of the team. If the team does not take active steps in this direction, the adoption will never happen. Honestly, i get the feeling that obyte team is not even trying to look for possible partnerships. Either you try, but the product is worse or not better than alternatives. Then i ask myself what the sense of the existence of coins, the main purpose of which is recognized as utopian. Caution! Criticism is undesirable. If you now make the mistake of supporting this criticism with arguments, you will very quickly get the title "Troll". |
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