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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PoW] [PoS] VEIL - Privacy without compromise on: May 05, 2019, 06:33:27 PM
As we all see over time, newbies spread news. Are there relations between ZEC and VEIL? Serious relations, I meant? VEIL is totally diferent from ZEC, at least in their algorithms. I am not a fan of VEIL, but it is irrelevant to post news on ZEC here. For the story of ZEC developers dumped their coins, is the news reliable enough to believe? And, please show us proof of ZEC developers dumps in the ZEC topic, not here. Roll Eyes

They have similar block reward models (they include founders rewards) and that is what I'm referring to.

Veil is not associated with ZEC as far as I know, but there are VERY FEW projects which have founders rewards. So the example of the ZEC founder DUMPING his rewards gives me a lot of reason for concern about other projects with founders rewards.

Can the VEIL team give me some assurances that the founder isn't going to dump this project into the ground?

Why do founders rewards even exist? They exist so one individual (the founder) can get rich. VEIL is a Privacy coin. Privacy coins are used in Niche markets and will never come close to having global adoption on a mass scale. If you have to ask why then I don't have the time to explain this to you.... What I'm saying is the founder isn't going to limit his wealth (acquired in VEIL) to Niche markets. He's going to cash in at some point. Can somebody from the VEIL team explain to me why this won't be the case? The tech is fantastic but I can't help but think this is doomed to fail because of the economics.


Hi;

As you can read their explanations in the Veil's Discord channel, they are not dumping or willing to dump their coins at least in short therm. And if they spend their coins this will be for reason not for an exit scam. Please note that they are not new in this era. This is not their first project.

Kind regards

Yes, team is not new. Founder of this, helped to start PIVX, acquired lots of coins via a premine and now seems to have dumped them to start this project instead of continuing on. But yeah, let's not call that an exit scam in case anyone gets offended. All exit scams don't happen in the short term. If the founder really intends to hold the coins beyond the short term, why didn't they have them time locked for all to see? i.e the founder budget could be time lock each month so they can only be spent after one year or so. (See other coins with time locked mining rewards). I doubt if it is rocket science to do that and much better than "believe me I won't dump" approach.



2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PoW] [PoS] VEIL - Privacy without compromise on: March 01, 2019, 07:01:42 AM
the problem with all these ANNs is that there is zero innovation. You get zerocoin, you get RingCT you get Bitcoin Core and you bundle it again. You put moderators and "guarantors" good names  who will rape mine the coin and then pump and dump it and voila.

Privacy? Monero. Or any of the other numerous zerocoin implementations like Zcoin PivX etc.

If every developer didn't try to get rich but instead good developers worked together we would have a much better ecosystem. Don't reinvent the wheel a hundred times over.

That's where you're wrong with VEIL.

99% of people borrow from each other in this space. That's why it's called "open source".

Even Satoshi took other projects that had been tried or failed and built Bitcoin from their research.

The devs here are trying to improve on what's already built by building on top of it and improving it.

The devs behind VEIL are reputable. Do more research on VEIL.  Wink

LOL, not adding innovative features and just stitching together bits and pieces from other projects for profit is the worse kind of "open source". All of the privacy features here have been done already.
Bitcoin was a huge innovation and had a lot of stuff never attempted before. If it was just copied from other open source projects the copyrights would be there. You won't find other source for most of the core features, just things like boost and BDB which many projects use outside of crypto.

I wouldn't consider devs that abandon a previous project (PIVX) because the price dropped and it got difficult to continue, that reputable. Other than money why would they do that?


 
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PoW] [PoS] VEIL - Privacy without compromise on: January 29, 2019, 02:58:22 AM
so if i want sent veil to exchanger can i sent with base coin or should it convert to zerocoin ?
According to Telegram it was a POS bug which was used by some users, so probably all staking rewards was earned by them.
Crikey, whats next.

this is false, the vast majority of PoS rewards were won by 10 denomination zerocoins, those were unaffected. The issue was that higher denomination efficiency parameters were not enforced by consensus, so people could gain an advantage when staking higher denominations. The soft fork has made it so that the parameters are enforced network wide.

Vast majority doesn't mean a lot if 10 denon coins are themselves the vast majority. What matters is whether someone with 100 10 coins gets the same amount of stakes as someone with 1 1000 coin. Wouldn't the bug have let the latter get a lot more proportional stakes? If you can't supply actual statistics then I'm not surprised that they will be accusations of foul play.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PoW] [PoS] VEIL - Privacy without compromise on: January 15, 2019, 03:32:48 AM
I got some information for people who is staking but didnt receive any rewards like me.. i talked with support team on discord and apparently people who have bad CPU (not fast) doesn't get staking rewards ... i am not a technical person to didnt go into details but its like we need good and faster single core CPU to have proper and faster PoS ... this sucks it really does.... so since 5 days i am keeping my wallet open for NOTHING ..... i got about 200 coins and no staking rewards what so ever... Ill be honest, in the beginning i thought this project is worth a try but since then seeing all kind of errors with wallets and pools and staking and more and more more more.... i got my doubt... no offence ...But not everyone here is as free to fix there wallet issues or pools issues again and again ... i admit all new projects have some finishing works left but come on you guys haven't even fixed you wallet...   Huh Huh Huh Angry Angry Angry

Wow. Sounds like Proof of Work embedded in Proof of State. Isn't the point of PoS to not require processing power and to be fair to holders of the same staking weight? I wonder if the team explained this issue to everyone or are keeping it low profile.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! on: December 15, 2018, 06:43:50 PM
Relax folks,

The power of this coin lies within it's connection to the tribes and it's economy. I did some due diligence and found out that there are some good  plans being worked out that might surprise you. This has been a coin with a clear prophecy and it still is. Forking it will just leave you with an empty shell, without any real purpose other than being yet another fork.

I'm getting involved as of now in any way I can to support the original team and start rebuilding the foundation it needs to enable the creation of exactly the structure it was intended to build in the first place.

Good times ahead!

AnasaziCoin (soon)

 Cool

weeeeeee

Where is the info on this?
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