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Yes, I hope so, they release the source. btw, what is your deobfuscation tool?
Javascript, itself! ;-) Let's take a quick walk down CompSci Lane and look at specifically *why* javascript code cannot be meaningfully obfuscated. Any programming language falls somewhere on the "lambda cube" which is a hierarchy of possible "type systems" or "logics" for the language. We'll look at the five "main" vertices of the cube. (There are actually 8 types of type systems possible, but the other three are "mostly uninteresting" variants of these, and are rarely used for languages.) First, we have "Untyped lambda calculus" which encompass languages with no logical interpretation. Code in such language is easily obfuscated as there is no logical constraint. Then we have "Simply typed lambda calculus" which are languages presentable in an intuitionistic propositional logic. Javascript is such a language. These languages are not able to be obfuscated because they are always subject to metacircularity, meaning the language can always "evaluate itself." Any code proposed to be obfuscated in such a language can be deobfuscated by simply running them under a "tracing" metacircular interpreter to recover the original logic. Next we have the "polymorphic lambda calculus" which are languages presentable in second order logics, without first order quantifiers. Such languages can be obfuscated by leveraging the polymorphic aspect to create a self-modifying type closure to break metacircularity. (Lack of sigma representation precludes a full "existential analysis" via metacircularity.) Then we get to the "Dependently typed lambda calculus" which are languages presentable in a fully general first order logic. Such languages are interesting, with regard to obfuscation, in that they can never fully represent their own interpretation. In other words, you can never establish metacircularity to begin with, so you can get obfuscation "for free" as if the language were untyped, and by the same mechanisms. Finally we have the "Calculus of constructions" also known as the "full lambda cube." These are languages which are only presentable in a generalization of higher order logics. These languages are a natural extension of dependently typed languages, and are obfuscated by the same means. Phew, that is a lot of crazy science with a lot of even crazier terminology, but the concepts are actually pretty simply, and I encourage the interested reader to delve into wikipedia on this subject for better understanding. The key take-away point is that javascript, being a simply typed lambda calculus, is the one type of language that cannot be meaningfully obfuscated! In other words, the node developers are trying to run a (so far) closed source project using the one type of programming language in which you cannot close the source. I am always highly curious about this strange sort of behavior.  (McCarthy is my hero) if you do it manually you're absolutely genius geek man  , I don't have time for that  |
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where is the dev |
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This code is still obfuscated, though. My de-obfuscated copy of the first release is at http://pastebin.com/a7JzU7kv and I've done some de-obfuscation of newer releases but it is not nearly as readable yet. When I find time to finish my specialized inliner for it I'll make a new pastebin with more recent code made readable, as well. Or they could just man up and release their source. It is misguided to think javascript code can be usefully "closed" anyway. Yes, I hope so, they release the source. btw, what is your deobfuscation tool? |
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I also node.js developer To say that "Node is bad" or other coins , everyone can Make your coin on node.js and show us I analyze two projects (Crypti & Node) and gain experience to build your coins  Your source encrypted. Yes it's the original source, from tmp folder, I'm not say NODE is bad, but please if anybody make something, make it with passion. At least please package the source, it won't be ugly : > https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/How-to-package-and-distribute-your-apps#windows-1> /wiki/How-to-package-and-distribute-your-apps#an-alternative-way-to-make-an-executable-file-in-windows But I support NODEMONEY. I hope NODE's dev add repo / source code to public, so another nodejs dev can help. |
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If anyone looking for transparency here the souce code of NODE: > https://www.dropbox.com/s/el8o6r4pdpi2zm1/nodecoin.zip?dl=0I'm nodejs developer, NODE's dev isn't serious about this project, NODE was built with nodewebkit, and when you run the exe/app, it's actually only extract original source into tmp folder, and nw (nodewebkit) will run it. As a dev, I think NODE is original idea choosing nodejs as development, and nodwebkit is very stable for who want make cryptocurrencies' wallet. But as critical person, i think NODE is not a good cryptocurrencies. If you want make a cryptocurrencies try GoLang, golang very fast for networking. Thanks |
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i'm nodejs dev, where is the source? so i can review codes. any github repo?
> Downloaded the wallet, nodecoin's dev using nodewebkit.
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someone is using cpuminer-heavycoin to mine?
I'm trying to use it, but it returns HTTP request failed: The requested URL returned error: 401
The ip is right and rpcport is 7202
and with -P option? it works with the patches I provided a little time ago. do you have minerd compiled on windows version? |
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Someone got any coins?
really sad  not yet.. |
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Mining but it's slow to get HVC (even 0 HVC with mining) waiting for alive pool |
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TO GET HVC from IPO
importprivkey <my privkey>
then restart wallet with -rescan
heavycoin-qt -rescan
after balance loaded
restart again
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Now that it is launched where are all the people who said it was a scam? Silence fills the room....
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here we go...  |
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you dont get it, few tens of computers, or even hundreds are not going to influence total network hashing power NOWHERE near as gpu or asic farms, where gpu is worth several cpus alone, not to mention ridiculous disproportion when it comes to asic farms.
this allows general population not only to mine but also seriously contribute to network security, power in numbers and decentralization.
i'd say bitcoin is no longer as secure as it was during cpu mining period. because most of hashing power is getting centralized firmly in the hands of several asic mining cartels, who can manipulate both price and security.
"General population" is going to mine nothing from this coin...unless you count "general population" as being someone who owns 100+ cpus. Hell, I just got done reading about some guy who spent thousands of dollars on amazon instances for a coin launch. He got something like 5% of all coins by himself, but barely broke even selling them all after paying his bills. His dump did manage to crash the market though. I'm sure he'll be back for this coin since he hasn't lost any money yet and just keep doing it till he strikes it rich on one of them. The joy of CPU coins. if you dont know what youre talking about then theres no need to blabblab. The instance limit of amazon AWS will never allow you to mine "like 5% of all coins" by yourself, thats plain BS. if someone likes to spend a lot of money on instances then that person will be able to mine the coins he deserves. like I said I have mined a great deal on my simple i7's and usual CPU cloud mining on 2x 4 core CPU droplets has been profitable for me too so no need to fud around baby Let me give you a for instance. I work for a company that has more than 100,000 multicore computers in one county. They could be deployed to mine this coin with just a few mouse clicks. That's just 1 company. Now do you get the picture. I wish you good luck with your i7s but I'm afraid you're going to be in for a big reality check within a few days of launch. Over and out. are you missing vote features? you can't do that. |
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Thanks for ur reply, yes at the first time I always proud with nodejs but, lot of modules will attached to the project, and js doesn't support big integer (I know there is a node module which can do that). I think the best method, to do this is using all of them, such as golang is nodejs competitor. Both python and c++ has powerful ability in other way. |
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i want to do solo mining to start with as I have a pc with 2x 12 core xeons, but the problem I always get with solo mining with the qt wallets is that it only ends up using 67% of the cpus. anyone have any suggestions on how I can fix this?
Thanks for your help guys I appreciate it
all the best
Ben
using daemon will be more efficient, I don't know how many percent, but without GUI is better hi mate thanks for the reply, sorry i'm not very technical, what is daemon, can i solo mine using that without the wallet? Thanks A daemon is a program that works in the background to perform some task(s). Most commonly found in Unix-derived operating systems such as Linux and MacOS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computing) Yep. I mention to the topic we talk about and thanks for wiki link. |
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Hello guys, I want to ask you, if you want to create completely new cryptocurrency concept, what programming language you will suggests to me, according with current technology, my options were : And if you have great resources for me, please let me know (p2p library/wrapper or economic algorithm or another great ideas that supports p2p, etc) . I'm noob developer so just relax and be kind to me |
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i want to do solo mining to start with as I have a pc with 2x 12 core xeons, but the problem I always get with solo mining with the qt wallets is that it only ends up using 67% of the cpus. anyone have any suggestions on how I can fix this?
Thanks for your help guys I appreciate it
all the best
Ben
using daemon will be more efficient, I don't know how many percent, but without GUI is better hi mate thanks for the reply, sorry i'm not very technical, what is daemon, can i solo mine using that without the wallet? Thanks i don't know if my answer is correct but, cryptocoin usually have a daemon (not all cryptocoin), etc, bitcoin has bitcoind on their application folder, it's the core application, QT client just grab response from daemon, but not all cryptocoin has daemon, sometimes they build become single application (only QT client). |
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i want to do solo mining to start with as I have a pc with 2x 12 core xeons, but the problem I always get with solo mining with the qt wallets is that it only ends up using 67% of the cpus. anyone have any suggestions on how I can fix this?
Thanks for your help guys I appreciate it
all the best
Ben
using daemon will be more efficient, I don't know how many percent, but without GUI is better |
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Heavycoin Public Key: 048efac43c7e64009db3715f602762a393332502c8cd6c201ce7bcef07304e2280733935034ceb4 2ec0483aa4d290c220267d78e4e4d8c1361196dfa837a7a61b3
Bitcoin Transaction ID: 144c229b2e51578a8b15d581f4ee6179a26f34a4ded4bfee7173ea657302a2ea
Amount sent: 0.29198071 BTC
please confirm,tranks,and i want to know how can i get the heaveyCoin to my wallet on March 8th? import my private key to my heavycoin wallet?
Your payment has shown up and, thus, is now confirmed! Thank you for joining the Heavycoin IPO. We will send you another PM later today with more details. PM me too, just want to know about everything. I love CPU Power, just like XRP |
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