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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YINYANG] ★★YinYangCoin - Coin for "CryptoCountry"! Idea has Changed! on: March 09, 2014, 10:18:44 PM
I'll give it a try.

[YANG] Yangcoin: YRKQLpdv8xKEtEuRMQGfgCLheANKWNCmUz
[YIN] Yincoin: ygJ29oDeMWbdb7L8k95G2GDcEqAc7yRPUU
You can only get 1 coin per week, but we just sent you 1000 yang.
I take this to mean we have to choose between getting YIN or YANG, one or the other, per week?

Edit: request removed, and sent via PM.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: March 02, 2014, 06:33:55 AM
Poloniex.com is down, atm have some sell order at ridiculous Low price  Undecided

It is working for me occasionally, but it does seem to come and go. A recent deposit took much longer to confirm on Poloniex than it did on the blockchain.

If you need to access it, you could refresh regularly to see if it works for you, but not too much, otherwise you might add to their troubles with the DDoS.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: March 02, 2014, 05:41:02 AM
Poloniex seems to be having some issues.

Will it be fully functional for Insanity Sunday?

Is there a fall back plan, on what would happen to Insanity Sunday if Poloniex cannot provide sufficient service to ensure fairness?

If Insanity Sunday has to be cancelled, for whatever reason, would it be followed by Insanity Monday, would the next Sunday be Insanity Sunday x 2 (ie 200 BTC pot), or would it be skipped, adding an extra week at the end instead?
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: February 24, 2014, 07:14:28 PM
im really missing where this can gain value. Why would anyone pay over .001 if that is where the price is constantly set?
On Insanity Sundays the supply is cut, and the price moves higher both in anticipation of and because of the buy back of WOLF from the BTC pot.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: February 23, 2014, 01:02:27 PM
I had my sell order at 0.005 Roll Eyes

With buy support from outside the pot BTC, it is still possible for it to reach and even exceed that.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: February 23, 2014, 12:00:38 PM
Has Poloniex been notified that they may have much higher traffic than usual?

We don't want the site to go down on Insanity Sunday.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: February 23, 2014, 10:19:14 AM
online, catching up with orders and pm's now
ok so just to get this straight you wont be selling anymore from 12pm (mid day gmt) today? and the exchanges stop then as well? and then you buy from 8pm this evening?

im just trying to get my times right lol i know utc and gmt are the same correct
no, the sales and buys on poloniex naturally continues.
You can't buy directly from the dev from 12:00 today to monday 10:00

and yes, utc and gmt are the same
ah i see ok i understand so buying starts from 8pm tonight on poloniex
correct.

Insanity Sundays
  • Every Sunday, starting 23rd Feb
  • All orders for InsanityCoin from dev at 0.001 will be halted at 12:00 UTC, from that point on no new WOLF will enter the market
  • Between 18:00 and 23:59 UTC dev will be using the BTC pot (max 100) on market to acquire as much WOLF as possible using numerous strategies.
  • 01:00 UTC Monday, results will be posted.
  • 10:00 UTC Monday, market to buy WOLF from dev at 0.001 BTC will re-open
  • All WOLF acquired by dev on sunday will be sent between two addresses until considered destroyed (less than 1 WOLF remains)

70.8+ BTC - 2 hours to supply cut off for the week

18:00 UTC is NOT the same as 8pm.
18:00 UTC is 6pm.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: February 23, 2014, 06:52:16 AM
sent you some btc-with the public labeled address
How canyou mine?? solo  or  pool??

any one has a pool??can you tell me ?
InsanityCoin has no mining reward. There is no block reward and the transaction fee of 10% is destroyed, not given to miners.

The current methods of obtaining the coin are via InsanityDev, or on https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_wolf

If you still wish to mine to secure the network, I believe solo is your only option.
So here is the part I don't understand,  I bought some on Poloniex,  and the QTY I bought remained the same, So does this mean that the WOLF has stayed stationary inside Poloniex,  however ownership has shifted in some table on a database, and that when I withdraw the coins they will be subjected to the 10% reduction?
Yes. Poloniex tracks WOLF ownership using its own methods without changing the block chain until withdrawal.

Only transactions on the block chain are subject to the 10% transaction fee, which Poloniex transactions are not, except withdrawal.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: February 23, 2014, 05:33:37 AM
sent you some btc-with the public labeled address
How canyou mine?? solo  or  pool??

any one has a pool??can you tell me ?
InsanityCoin has no mining reward. There is no block reward and the transaction fee of 10% is destroyed, not given to miners.

The current methods of obtaining the coin are via InsanityDev, or on https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_wolf

If you still wish to mine to secure the network, I believe solo is your only option.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: February 22, 2014, 11:57:59 PM
I invite all the traders to join https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#insanitycoin to discuss tomorrow's strategy or WOLF in general
nice work +1
Only one person is in there with me, come on guys we need a game plan!

Edit: only 12 hours left to buy WOLF but only 1-2 hours until the DEV goes offline!

I couldn't connect using that link, this works for me though: http://webchat.freenode.net/?randomnick=0&channels=insanitycoin&prompt=1
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: February 22, 2014, 09:28:49 PM
After the recent experiences with criminal IPOs, what about escrow instead of just sending money into a possible void ?

If you're worried about not getting the WOLF for your BTC, you can check both block chains and see that there are WOLF payouts corresponding to the BTC payments into the pot address (I have checked this myself, but only for a few transactions). Also, there have not been any complaints of WOLF not being sent.

A few trusted members on here have also backed the dev's trustworthiness, and have also stated they will reveal his real identity if he does anything wrong, so I believe the dev will carry out the Insanity Sunday bump as planned.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: February 22, 2014, 08:57:59 PM
InsanityDev, is there some way we can contact you other than this forum?

It seemed like it went down for a short while just now.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: February 21, 2014, 04:06:44 AM
InsanityDev, buy wall @0.0009 removed at Poloniex?

Moved to 0.001 - Have already acquired 628.88442508 WOLF back at 0.001 Wink

What is the reasoning behind keeping a buy wall up, instead of just using the entire pot for the Sunday bump?
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: February 21, 2014, 12:14:58 AM
it is better to have only one exchange. cryptsy is too flaky for this.

will you limit direct sales to 100 btc per week, no matter of the demand?

Sales of WOLF have no weekly limit (ie could all go in one massive purchase), only the BTC pot is limited to 100BTC per week.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: February 20, 2014, 09:17:35 AM
What does "numerous strategies" mean, and what benefits do they have over a single big bump?

I guess it means that the dev will place an order an 0.XX and then will buy his own order back  Smiley

I see that premined coins are in favor now, AUR with 50% premine goes up in difficulty & price, this one 100% premine had a 37 BTC market. Crazy

Other than the 6,000 coins the dev has allocated for himself, he cannot have more coins obtained at a rate lower than 0.001BTC, as this would show as a discrepancy between the BTC in the pot and the number of WOLF sold so far.

This means that for any amount over 6000 WOLF, the dev would only lose money by selling at less than 0.001 BTC per WOLF.

Therefore this coin should not be considered to have a premine of more than ~1%, assuming the bump happens honestly.

The dev could put his own order in just before he knows it will be filled. I'm not sure how the risk of this could be mitigated, or even if this could be detected after it was done, although I think it would be suspicious if a new large sell order was put up at a high price and filled almost immediately. It seems it will require trust, although maybe poloniex could tell us if the dev was filling his own orders from the pot.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: February 20, 2014, 08:24:02 AM
ANN updated with details on sundays, snip follows:

Insanity Sunday
  • Every Sunday, starting 23rd Feb
  • All orders for InsanityCoin from dev at 0.001 will be halted at 12:00 UTC, from that point on no new WOLF will enter the market
  • Between 18:00 and 23:59 UTC dev will be using the BTC pot (max 100) on market to acquire as much WOLF as possible using numerous strategies.
  • 01:00 UTC Monday, results will be posted.
  • 10:00 UTC Monday, market to buy WOLF from dev at 0.001 BTC will re-open
  • All WOLF acquired by dev on sunday will be sent between two addresses until considered destroyed (less than 1 WOLF remains)

Pot stands at 35 BTC+ currently.

Consider me offline from here for new purchases until 10:00 UTC tomorrow.

What does "numerous strategies" mean, and what benefits do they have over a single big bump?

This is a game of balls where traders are wiser to place coins for sale higher than other traders, rather than lower.

A single bump has more incentive to create sell orders at higher prices than multiple smaller bumps.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - coin for investors and traders on: February 19, 2014, 11:56:52 PM
hehehe, i'm still planing to buy more but the current method of purchase sucks due to the wait time, can't you use automated escrow service instead

I'm considering creating an automated system for it - specifying it as we speak.


might be good to have something like a drip feed, or limited coins per week..
otherwise it'd be easy to sell some coins, go back to the source buy some more with the earnings etc..

Why would this be bad thing?

The buy volume and the exchange sell price are low enough, and the competition is high enough that it is not easy anyway.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - destructive coin for investors and traders on: February 19, 2014, 07:18:18 PM
what day/time will you be executing the trades over the weekend?  it should be the same each time so everyone can be prepared right?

also, will there be transparency for each trade week.  So if you receive 50BTC this first week, how will we know you bought 50BTC worth of WOLF, and not 45BTC and pocketed 5 for yourself?

You know what would be insane?
Tell everyone the buyback is on Sunday and then do it on Friday.  Grin

Just joking. But I must say, that so far this launch is going extremely well.
There is a Windows wallet, an exchange at launch and an interesting unique concept that is clearly defined and well communicated.

And despite the idea being insane, the business is handled professionally so far.

You have no idea how much I've already been tempted to do that. I wish I'd ignored requests to fix a time, however I can see how it's beneficial.

Regarding transparency, I can simply c+p the order history to the forum. Poloniex (staff or market history) could verify if there were any questions by anybody.

With regards to fixing a time, and how long it is, there is a trade off between whether this is a game of skill or random chance.

If the time was not fixed, or of a very long duration, then it is very much a game of chance.

With the time fixed, and of a shorter duration, it becomes a game of skill, a game of how well you can place your sell orders to maximise your chances of having your orders filled, whilst also trying to maximise your profit.

Personally, I prefer it being a game of skill, to have the time both fixed and of a short duration, maybe even shorter than it is now.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][WOLF] InsanityCoin - destructive coin for investors and traders on: February 19, 2014, 06:37:20 PM
what day/time will you be executing the trades over the weekend?  it should be the same each time so everyone can be prepared right?
The bump will be each Sunday at a random time between 18:00 to 23:59 UTC.

also, will there be transparency for each trade week.  So if you receive 50BTC this first week, how will we know you bought 50BTC worth of WOLF, and not 45BTC and pocketed 5 for yourself?

We will be able to work out from the market trade history of the exchange how much BTC was spent during the buy back.

Another way, requiring less calculation, is to keep track of the volume, and when it jumps suddenly work out the difference to see if it is the same as the BTC pot (or slightly greater, depending on other trades occurring simultaneously).

There may be trading noise but that cannot be predicted so cannot be used to reduce BTC spent on the buy back without getting caught.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ME.TOO :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins on: February 19, 2014, 05:50:12 PM
Consider me interested.
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