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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC wallet addresses added to OFAC list- long term implications on: November 30, 2018, 07:15:53 PM
Privacy features are only going to provoke regulators even more. Right now things are transparent and they can work towards a way of controlling bitcoin without severely inhibiting its growth. If true privacy is added then they'll lose that element of control and the only real option will be to outlaw it.
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So we are ok with letting governments control bitcoin?  What you are describing is basically allowing governments to get rid of bitcoin's censorship resistance.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC wallet addresses added to OFAC list- long term implications on: November 29, 2018, 08:13:14 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-28/u-s-exposes-bitcoin-users-addresses-in-iran-cyber-sanctions

I agree it doesn't make any sense but when has that stopped governments in the past?  I am worried by how quickly everyone is dismissing this issue given the broad power US financial regulators have.  I personally think it is very important that Bitcoin adds privacy features ASAP.
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC wallet addresses added to OFAC list- long term implications on: November 29, 2018, 07:52:20 PM
There should be a certain amount of bitcoin involved or transferred to another address before the owner of the said address is prosecuted, otherwise the said Iranians could go and spend a couple Satoshis and turn anyone's address into a recipient of the dirty coins listed on the OFAC. It's quite vague on the Fed's part to really address this issue since sooner or later, a huge chunk of the network would be affected and almost everyone can be prosecuted.

Idk what came to their mind but this is not going to work in the long run.

I agree this isn't going to work in the long run.  For one, bitcoin can always add additional security measures.  What I'm worried about is the US government perceiving bitcoin as a threat and then using anti-money laws to prevent adoption in the US before these security measures are adopted.  I am not aware of a de minimis provision in current law that prevents prosecution as long as transacted amounts are below $X so I think what you described about Iranians turning every wallet into a dirty wallet is in fact possible.
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC wallet addresses added to OFAC list- long term implications on: November 29, 2018, 04:02:07 PM
Well the point is that the US government is publishing names and the related addresses that the government has determined to be owned by the sanctioned persons.  So the government could argue that anyone transacting with these addresses could have known who they were transacting with.  I agree that it would be preposterous for the government's position to be that in an A->B->C->D scenario where A is on the OFAC list that C and D should trace the funds back to A and therefore not engage in the transaction.  However, if the government wanted to pass regulations that would threaten bitcoin this is one way to do it short of more overt measures like banning bitcoin.  In fact the government might be forced into such regulations if it wants the original OFAC list to have any teeth.  Otherwise, the sanctioned person can simply created new addresses, transfer funds to those addresses and then engage in transactions.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / BTC wallet addresses added to OFAC list- long term implications on: November 29, 2018, 03:41:02 PM
According to recent news the US treasury department has publicized bitcoin addresses related to sanctioned Iranians.  These Iranians are on the OFAC list which means that all US citizens and permanent residents are prohibited from transacting with people on the list.  I am worried about the implications for bitcoin.  If bitcoin is moved from these addresses to an address owned by a US person, the Feds could conceivably prosecute if that US person spends from that address.  Ultimately this could lead to a cascading effect where blacklisted wallets spend bitcoin and end up tainting other wallets that then spend bitcoin and taint yet further wallets.  If the US government ever feels threatened by Bitcoin I suspect this is the avenue they will pursue.
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