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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: August 20, 2019, 07:59:24 AM
Livecoin are not scammers, so are we. The project is developing. Nutildah seems to be a paid troll or just an inadequate person. He just can't stop lying and trash-talking. We'll have to report him to admins.
Sorry everybody.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: March 25, 2019, 08:52:15 PM
BSHORT token is listed on Bitcratic exchange.
https://www.bitcratic.com/#!/trade/BSHORT-ETH
3  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Чего не хватает альткоинам? on: March 04, 2019, 07:18:41 AM
Та всё хватает, просто рынок сейчас в кризисе, так что просто нужно ждать и надеяться что скоро всё это закончиться.
Вот я тоже так думаю. По большому счёту, нужен бычий тренд для того, чтобы оживить множество интересных проектов.  Но есть конечно и бесполезные
вот вот. на бычьем тренде оживут все проекты: и полезные и бесполезные и будет трудно их отличить, потому что на бычьем рынке все они выглядят привлекательно и прикидываются правильными.

Ну вот наконец-то есть что-то и для медвежьего тренда. Bitcoin Short
decentracapital.com
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: March 03, 2019, 03:32:31 PM
can you tell us where we can find Decentra Capital LLC and your team members?
Did you read my last message? The answer is there

Surely if your project is legitimate as you claim you'd have no problem disclosing the names of the people who run it. You would also publish any sort of evidence of your holdings, or at least give the name of an auditing team who could vouch for you.

 There is a time and place for everything.
And you'll see it sooner if you could delete all of your "SCAM"s and "Don't"s that you've posted about our project.
May be you've found some scams somewhere before but it doesn't mean you have the right to lie here and call a scam everybody around.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: March 03, 2019, 02:40:22 PM

Stop lying.
Tell this your friend nutildah. Nobody can beat his record - 4 lies in one post! Here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5087584.msg49925558#msg49925558

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can you tell us where we can find Decentra Capital LLC and your team members?
Did you read my last message? The answer is there

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Why is your whitepaper or whatever you are calling it full of plagiarism?
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Some words from SEC/RULES ? SEC rules are the same for everybody. Ok, thank you for pointing to this, we should probably review the document. And we will do this. We appreciate any feedback as I've said before.
But I bet you'll find plagiarism in the next version too. There's a lot of financial operations and instruments definitions all over the document. It's almost impossible to express them in your own words and not to be accused with plagiarism.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: March 03, 2019, 07:21:25 AM
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In the meantime, can you tell us where we can find Decentra Capital LLC and your team members?


Who is asking?

We provide every needed information to partners or exchanges. But not to anonymous money laundering services and spammers.
And don't send us your fishing mails any more.
We'll publish information on our site whenever we think is appropriate.


Should we take a closer look at your topic here and start spamming if we don't find your team members there. What do you think?
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: March 02, 2019, 12:27:23 PM
You don't do this even with 1 dollar, even with 100 dollar reward because you know you are wrong and can't your confirm this accusation.  And if you do a little check everybody will see that you are a liar and you'll have to confess. You don't want this of course.
I know this kind of people they would do anything not to confess that they probably have made some mistakes.
Everybody can make mistakes. Confess one you'll feel a big relief.

Simply put: I don't trust your MetaMask connection to not steal my private keys. So I won't be connecting to it. Your software is not open-source so there's no real way of knowing what you are doing with your users' information when they connect to you via MetaMask.

Here's confirmation that your project is a sham. On Feb 28th, your token prices looked like this:

Buy           Sell
$41.00   $39.78

Today, they look like this:

Buy           Sell
$41.39   $39.76

The price of BTC decreased by -0.3% during this time.
Your Buy price increased by 1%, but your Sell price decreased by -0.05%!



Instead of properly changing your Sell price, you simply increased your spread from 3% to 4%.

This puts to rest any doubt that you're a scam.

Spread can be changed in both directions depending on market conditions, so what. Keep following it. Spreads change in any pair on any exchange. Ok. Than Binance or Houbi are scams also. Your accusations become helpless. Don't like spread on our site- trade on exchanges. No problem at all.
Keep bumping this topic. Everybody sees who are you and what are you doing here anyway.
It'a good idea to publish price history on our site though. You see, we appreciate any feedback even from liars and spammers.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: March 02, 2019, 08:20:42 AM

We officially offered him 100 USD reward if he can confirm his accusation. There's an easy way to check this:
You tell people they would loose money if they connect Metamask to our site? Did you check it? Try with a 10 dollars Metamask account. If you loose anything more than ethereum comission and spread we'll reward you with USD100. If not- send us USD 100. )) -please apologize and delete your post!
Left negative trust and accusations without any sort of tangible evidence or references.
He did not do this of course. Apologize? Confess mistakes? No, he doesn't know how it works.

I told you, I don't want your token. I'm not giving you $10, because I don't trust you. That's why I didn't do that.


You don't do this even with 1 dollar, even with 100 dollar reward because you know you are wrong and can't your confirm this accusation.  And if you do a little check everybody will see that you are a liar and you'll have to confess. You don't want this of course.
I know this kind of people they would do anything not to confess that they probably have made some mistakes.
Everybody can make mistakes. Confess one you'll feel a big relief.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: March 01, 2019, 06:36:02 PM
Announce to everybody here.
We experience a coordinated attack from this users:

nutildah, - This guy is running around the forum and accuses everybody for cheating without any proof. He gives negative trust to people who just comment topics he doesn't like.
He ownes and promotes bicoin mixer on the darknet and describes himself as anonymous Bitcoin enthusiast. Very funny that he calls us a scam because we don't provide him with official details he needs. Show your face first than probably you'll have the right to demand anything from the others.
We officially offered him 100 USD reward if he can confirm his accusation. There's an easy way to check this:
You tell people they would loose money if they connect Metamask to our site? Did you check it? Try with a 10 dollars Metamask account. If you loose anything more than ethereum comission and spread we'll reward you with USD100. If not- send us USD 100. )) -please apologize and delete your post!
He did not do this of course. Apologize? Confess mistakes? No, he doesn't know how it works.


marlboroza- promotes same kind of business as nutildah (chipmixer), this users are merited by each other and seem to work together. Maybe these usernames belong to one person, not sure.

Highly likely one of these users is the one who sends us fishing mails. We'll do further investigation on this matter and report their misbehaviour to forum administration.

Please ignore these users.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 28, 2019, 03:22:10 PM
Maybe I don’t understand something in your business plan, but it seems to me that if you want to shorten bitcoin or the entire cryptocurrency market, you can go to bitmax and trade with the leverage until you get tired.
Yes there are some ways to short bitcoin. The idea is to provide the easiest one. On any exchange even decentralized ones. No margin call liquidations.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 28, 2019, 03:03:20 PM
These users are both part of a bump bot service where a project promoter pays to have his thread bumped by accounts pretending to ask questions about the project. This is not legitimate conversation. They both always comment on the same threads, feel free to examine for yourself.

Is it guaranteed that my Metamask won’t be hacked after I buy your tokens? Is the connection safe?   

Is it guaranteed that my Metamask won’t be hacked after I buy your tokens? Is the connection safe?   
Look, the others buy BTCShort and there haven’t been any complaints yet. I don’t think that the security system has any bugs .

You bump this topic more than anybody else. Thanks.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 28, 2019, 09:48:55 AM
We appreciate any feedback, really. But stop spamming here with your negative attitude to everything. I will respond to you only after you do this:

You tell people they would loose money if they connect Metamask to our site? Did you check it? Try with a 10 dollars Metamask account. If you loose anything more than ethereum comission and spread we'll reward you with USD100. If not- send us USD 100. )) -please apologize and delete your post!

Hope you appreciate the "feedback" you're paying for. How much does a bump bot service cost anyway?

Tell you what: you update your website with detailed information about your holdings and a public team and I'll stop calling you a scam. Until then, you're most definitely a scam.

Read my previous message to you.
You tell people they would loose money if they connect Metamask to our site? Did you check it? Try with a 10 dollars Metamask account. If you loose anything more than ethereum comission and spread we'll reward you with USD100. If not- send us USD 100. )) -please apologize and delete your post!
Until then, you're most definitely a spam.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 28, 2019, 09:06:33 AM
You say on your site that you are working actively to increase liquidity of the token. It’s a wise step for a developing project. Nevertheless, there’s no detailed description. It feels like you don’t do it or you’re too lazy to provide investors with the info. Could you describe how u do it, please?   

Listings, contracts with market makers, overall promotion of the project.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 28, 2019, 08:21:49 AM
In fact, the project has temporary prospects. The assets like Bitcoin Short which move in the opposite direction from Bitcoin will be relevant while the market is depressed. But not one will need it soon.   

Why??
Why? Srsly? Bitcoin price is dropping how and Bitcoin Short price is growing. The situation will change soon – the market will start growing. Look,  big investors are already buying bitcoun. The biggest wallets bought 150 000 BTC in 2 months.
Hah it’s obvious. But even in case of bull run, bitcoin won’t always only grow. Some corrections, even short-term, will take place anyway!   Then it’ll be possible to make profit on this tool.
Yes, I agree. It will be an optimal way to use this asset in case of bull run.
Ok, let’s say, correction lasted for 30-60 minutes. Will Bitcoin Short manage to reflect this correction? When will it happen – during the correction or after its end? Well, there’re a lot of tech-related questions.   

BSHORT will reflect short-time corrections on exchanges. We update NAV price on our site once a day.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 28, 2019, 08:10:13 AM
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Every BSHORT token is backed by bitcoin derivatives- futures, SWAPs, options. Net asset value (NAV) for BSHORT is calculated using the same model as ETF funds use. It is published on our site every day. NAV= net assets / quantity of tokens on the market.

So basically, you are telling us the token has a bearish bias and you're simply acting as a middleman, instead of us directly shorting through futures, SWAPs and options.

Are you tell us you make money on this by means of arbitrage? In sum, you believe the strong volatility will be the one which will generate you profits.

Yes, you can put it this way
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 28, 2019, 08:04:23 AM
Buy BSHORT, wait till bitcoin price goes down, then sell BSHORT for higher price.
Lets say everyone buys bitcoin short and market goes down.

Now everyone wants to sell.

Who will buy at higher price if bitcoin goes down and everyone is selling?

though their plan for this coin is not that complicated but there's no assurance about the value of this coin. you'll never know when will you sell your coins and if it will ever come. and yes, in case bitcoin goes down, who will gonna buy your bshort at higher price if people are not believing the future of your coin? so i would say, this will not gonna last long here. unless, the dev has very solid proof that this concept will work.

I takes time for traders to get used to BSHORT. The best proof will be the price history. You can buy and SELL tokens on our site untill we see sufficient liquidity on exchanges.

Why do you only respond to the real people in this thread and not the bump bot service you employed?



We appreciate any feedback, really. But stop spamming here with your negative attitude to everything. I will respond to you only after you do this:

You tell people they would loose money if they connect Metamask to our site? Did you check it? Try with a 10 dollars Metamask account. If you loose anything more than ethereum comission and spread we'll reward you with USD100. If not- send us USD 100. )) -please apologize and delete your post!

17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 28, 2019, 06:26:23 AM
Buy BSHORT, wait till bitcoin price goes down, then sell BSHORT for higher price.
Lets say everyone buys bitcoin short and market goes down.

Now everyone wants to sell.

Who will buy at higher price if bitcoin goes down and everyone is selling?

though their plan for this coin is not that complicated but there's no assurance about the value of this coin. you'll never know when will you sell your coins and if it will ever come. and yes, in case bitcoin goes down, who will gonna buy your bshort at higher price if people are not believing the future of your coin? so i would say, this will not gonna last long here. unless, the dev has very solid proof that this concept will work.

I takes time for traders to get used to BSHORT. The best proof will be the price history. You can buy and SELL tokens on our site untill we see sufficient liquidity on exchanges.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 28, 2019, 06:11:45 AM
Buy BSHORT, wait till bitcoin price goes down, then sell BSHORT for higher price.
Lets say everyone buys bitcoin short and market goes down.

Now everyone wants to sell.

Who will buy at higher price if bitcoin goes down and everyone is selling?

What is price of 1 bitcoin short?

Liquidity is our priority. There will be marketmakers in order books. You can buy and SELL token on our site. Not many companies buy their tokens back. You can find BSHORT price here: decentracapital.com About 40 USD now
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 27, 2019, 08:59:14 PM
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Funds assets are invested in derivatives, mostly on CME and CBOE. The underlying asset for these
derivatives is Bitcoin. A part of the fund’s assets can be invested in derivatives traded on crypto
exchanges (the actual list of this exchanges is published on our internet site). The funds are invested to
insure the result that corresponds to the inverse performance of bitcoin. The fund issues BSHORT tokens.
These tokens are backed by all the assets of the fund and are traded on crypto exchanges. The assets
which the fund receives from the tokens sold are invested according to principal investing strategies
(which are explained below).

Mr. Bitcoin Short explain me with your own words how does it work.

If I buy bitcoin short, what I have to do to make money? --> keep it short and simple.

Buy BSHORT, wait till bitcoin price goes down, then sell BSHORT for higher price.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ANN] Bitcoin short. The easiest way to short bitcoin🔥 on: February 27, 2019, 08:43:45 PM
Why is it possible to buy Bitcoin Short tokens only on the site? Isn’t it listed on the exchanges? The following issue is how to sell it.   

We just started the project. It takes time to get listed. You can buy-sell on our site, on Forkdelta :https://forkdelta.app/#!/trade/0x316e7d7f3d9584b276fb68028b74fcdbaec56481-ETH
Add token on Ledgerdex with contract adress  0x316e7d7f3d9584b276fb68028b74fcdbaec56481, you can exchange BSHORT- DAI there.
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