So what if instead of a transaction based reward for mining, the inclusion of a petty amount of hash power gets you free transactions?  The ability to participate in the network, broadcasting zero cost transactions becomes the incentive.  Maybe that's kind of what the lightening network is trying to do. I just don't see how bitcoin will survive mining centralization.  At least the bitcoin that I have grown to appreciate.  

Do you think once mining can become decentralized again, for instance, if every laptop computer comes with an asic mining chip, couldn't the electricity used to power your laptop replace any fees that one would have to pay?

That's cool, I like the concept of atomic transfers.  I think they will be key in the creation of a crypto-based decentralized ride share/delivery platform.  But I guess an overlord chain is still just theoretical at this point.

I was thinking, what if there were a blockchain that links one or more blockchains, or how about all of them?  Something that would take confirmed blocks from BTC, LTC, DOGE, DASH, ect. link and hash them together in a unified way, and then that hash would be the blocks of this overlord chain.  I guess it would have to be its own alt coin.  Wouldn't that sort of combine the hashing power from all chains in some way?

Very simply put, say I want to sell a digital file, a song mp3 download, or even just a single song play.  It'd be nice if there were a program out there which allows users to listen to practically free music, without ripping artists like Spotify and the other big boys.  So I was thinking, what if this new music listening program verifies that the user has paid for the song(lets say $0.025), by taking a random portion of the block chain + info from the most recent block + songinfo + user info to authenticate the purchase and allow the program to play the song.  I guess its not exactly 2fa, but it would be a way that could authenticate ownership of digital material that would change every 10mins.  Am I even close here?   

Could you use a 8 word pass phrase, "thisisthegreatestpassphraseintheworld", run that thru a sha256 calculator, then use all or a portion of that output + "this is the greatest pass phrase in the world"?  Maybe repeat with "this1is1the1greatest1passphase1in1the1world"

I like the name "kiss", not so much the band, just the name.  100 kisses=1 bit.  send some one some kisses.  give them a kiss.  I really don't like the satoshi name either. 

This site is way better for getting started to view dot-bit addresses.

http://meowbit.com

you'll need a namecion wallet first:

http://name coin.info/

on the meowbit.com site there are instructions for registering your own dot-bit address. 

now trying to get this info to people in turkey is another matter, any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Can Namecoin's dot-bit domain registery be helpful in maintaining freedom of speech over the internet in turkey?  It's kind of technical for the average user, but would be cool to see more people using it for what it is meant.  I'm just kind of getting into this today myself, but if anyone feels like helping out, I'd be down for making this info more readily available for these folks. 

I was thinking of making a dot-bit address with a blog.  I'm not very technical myself, but I'm learning.  I'd rather do something like this today than just watching BTC prices go down and thinking about my cex account.  Let me know what's up, if anyone wants to help out here.  I'm thinking of a site, or at least a post that will list what all someone needs for a name coin wallet and instructions on how to view and register dot-bit addresses. 

Here is the website I'm starting with. 

http://www.gcnlive.com/CMS/index.php/component/k2/281-quick-guide-to-browsing-drone-proof-dot-bit-domains/281-quick-guide-to-browsing-drone-proof-dot-bit-domains

hope to hear from some peeps, cheers.

: https://bitcoinpaperwallet.com/

here's the problem...I don't know enough about reading code to say, "yeah this is legit". Im trying to learn what I can, but for goodness sake, there is so much to take in.  I just started studying bitcoins, have learned alot of hard lessons and want to make minimal mistakes moving forward.  Many thanks to all that have replied to this thread.

That's exactly what I thought.  I was doing it as practice really, but i couldn't get the transaction to go thru until I validated the private key threw that website.  I was still online too because I couldn't figure out how to get the page to show up of line in google chrome.  When i used bitaddress.org off line wasn't a problem at all.  I just like the design with the fold over the private key.  I'm going to make my own design tho.  I'm a slow learner with this stuff however.  Once I do get something going, I want to put it online so that anyone can use there own images to go with the important numbers and qr codes, so long as i'm not violating any copyrights.  I'm really trying to get a cheap computer that will never be online to print paper wallets with a piece of mind. 

Thanks, I'll definately check out armory today.  So much catching up to do and so little time.  I want to get a pack of paper wallets together with my favorite coins.  I'm going to put my face and my family members faces on them like we are dead presidents.  and seal them in an envelope with instructions to opening online wallets and of course some shameless self-promo references.  Im thinking like $12.50 worth of various cryptos and sell them for $15.  I doubt I'll make any money from it, but it will at least be funny as hell and will help spread the word about using these coins, or even just as an affordable investment for those new and curious like I was in december.  

I feel like you've got to have a sense of humor with this stuff, less crying.  I feel bad about people that got Goxed and thank God that I was lucky enough to go with coinbase, simply because it was cheaper at the time.  It would be nice to make back the 25% I lost buying high and selling low at cex.  I kind of jumped in head first because I really do want to invest in mining.  I feel like its an investment into infrastructure, but what a rip off cex turned out to be.  Granted I didn't really know what I was doing, so shame on me.  

No matter what currency is being used, it takes money to make money.  So for now, I'm just going to stick to having fun and trying to make a couple dollars, while spreading the word and hopefully give the community some references to good open source code in the process.  My dream is to collaberate on a digital coin that operates a media player which will directly auto pay royalties to recording artists, and even have tipping options.  Spotify and the like is awesome for listeners, but gosh darn, it is really taking advantage of the artists.

So, I was able to fund the paper wallet, but only after I entered the private key to validate it.  I'm going to keep trying to get to a point where the private key is only seen by the end user when they are redeeming, or sweeping the paper wallet.  These things can serve as a great starter kit for BTC and other digital currency.  I wish i knew how to write code.  Does anyone have any suggestions and references on the best way to learn coding?  Until someone comes out with an all encompessing online wallet, these paper wallets are going to have to do for now.  

How funny would it be, if sealed paper wallets take the place of paper money.  They would have to be very tamperproof, but that would be so sweet.  Especially if BTC and other cryptos increase in value.  Instead of old folks complaining about how dollars had more buying power, it'd be the opposite.

"In my day, a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk was 15¢", says the grumpy elderly man.  But in our future, we'll be saying, "See this paper wallet, it was worth 10 dollars when i printed it, now 20 years later I used it to buy a house and this new self-flying, aeriel, magnetic segway.  Oh its solar powered by the way, and the sound system runs on farts."

This site looks great, but I'm having a hard time funding the wallets with small amounts from coinbase.  It says, "please enter valid email or bitcoin address".  If I can get it to work, I would use the designs for the lite and doge coins as well.  I'm trying to avoid even looking at the private key section, and it was my understanding that I wouldn't have to. Especially since I am just using these paper wallet to create some interest amongst friends and hopefully local merchants, without having to be trusted.  Not saying that I'm not trustworthy haha, because I am.  I just want to prove that anyone can do this and they don't have to feel responsible when gifting BTC, so long as they are careful with securing the private keys.   

This is a two part question...

1.) Are there any programs that can generate printable paper wallets with visable public keys, while keeping the private keys hidden somehow?  I'm trying to make paper wallets without having any knowledge of the private keys until they are ready to be imported.  Kind of like how blockchain creates online wallets without keeping records of any private keys, which are only seen on the user end.  Maybe something like a scratch off lottery ticket, where you can clearly see the public key, but have to scratch off the section that reveals the paper wallet's corresponding private key.  Or perhaps have the private key further encrypted, so that what is actually printed on the paper wallet is a key that then needs to be  unscrambled to reveal the actual private key.  The ultimate goal here is to print a paper wallet without being responsable or have any knowledge of the private key.  I could print and fund wallets for my friends no problem, but it would be cool to do this for strangers and not worry about gaining their trust.

2.) I don't have a ton of BTC, but I'd be willing to pay a programmer to write some code to create such a program.  I would even make it open source once complete, so anyone that wants to print 'secret' paper wallets can do so for friends and strangers alike.  My next question is how does one set a bounty for work to be completed by programmers?  I believe 'bounty' is what it is called.  Also, are there any reputable escrow services that can help with this process?  I don't want to make a down payment on some programming work and have someone run off with my BTC, which is almost sure to happen.  Ideally I'd like to meet some programmers in person, so if there are any affordable freelancers in the Pittsburgh area looking for some work, please let me know. 

Thanks so much for reading, hope to hear from some interested folks.  Take care.

I'm surprised there aren't more burg townners into Pittsburgh.  We could totally have a Bitsburgh down town.

Wow, what a pain.  I guess thats the price you pay for development in an open sourced world.  How long do you think before one program can operate the functions of several alto coins?  Mabey even updating itself to operate any popular alt coin of the users choosing.  It would be sweet if all new PCs came with an ASIC built in.  People could create, mine and then use their own coins, and since they are based off of the bitcoin block chain, transactions can serve as triggers for other functions. 

I was just trying to learn about namecoin today.  What a great concept!  It builds off of bicoin's infastructure, and at the same time it promotes free speech from a global podium.  I haven't figured out how to use it yet, but here's what i understand.  Namecoin's peripheral use enables it to register domain names with a (.bit) suffix.  I believe you need a plugin or different browser to view (.bit) content and pages, but i think they are free.  Well not free to register a domain name, but its like .01NMC(namecoin) or a fewcents.  It's a scheiss ton less compared to go daddy and the like.  I want to make a dot-bit website for my band.  Mastercoin and Coloured coins are another awesome idea.  Where is the best place to hear about new coin software and the alternative or peripheral functions they can perform?  Any good sites or recomendations for beginers and coinheads alike?  There really should be more attempts to generate interest on this stuff.  More than just the latest news about Mt.gox and every other negative aspect of this budding technology.  Thanks for the reply!

Are there any offline, free wallets in which you can transact with BTC, LTC, NMC, DVC and dogecoin?  Not exchanging them, but holding them and tranacting with them seperately?  I want to promote the use of such a program, especially if it is open source, has a user friendly interface, and is secure.  I think I have a pretty good idea on how to get the masses to use crypt currency without involving worrisome amounts of money.

I guess I should add some thoughts here...

For one, I think it's important to have a few different regional perspectives involved in the telling of this story.  This would adhere to BTC's innate philosophy of decentralisation.  The even newer, new world order.  

In addition, the people who are chosen for this documentary can not be established in the bitcoin community, nor can they be early developers of any kind.  The newer that they are to bitcoin, the more intersting their journey, in my opinion.  Maybe it would be sort of like a reverse "Bruster's millions" situation.  If they manage to live strickly on bitcoin for one full year, then they are promised some kind of undisclosed reward.  But it's all or nothing, and there is no one there to hold their hand.

Imagine the climax starting with all 7 being notified that they must to go to Japan to claim their reward.  Upon arrival, they are gathered into a conference room Trump style, and the office chair at the head of the table spins around to unveil the identy of the mastermind behind this contest, not Adam Levin, but Mark Karpeles.  He tells them that their reward is simply the priceless experience and knowledge they've gained by living a year of their lives on bitcoin.

Ok so maybe this movie ends up being titled "Spinal Tap Coin".  But for rils, we need a global view documentary like this no?