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yes it is normal, all vtc and mon must mature before they are sent to miners
btw post update to proxypool-simplestats, nothing special, it just checking for updates xD
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@perezoso unpaid ballance is bug from payout script which did not properly handled shares. Node operators hve to update their scripts from github and then sort out what ppl should get and what they get and trim their database ... Doing it now for my node and let me tell you, it is one hell of a mess xD
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I havent recived MON payment in past 24h from this pool: http://whatever.kn.vutbr.cz/proxypool/This is my address: MTTs4MEhxFaPbCaXfpFPVGx8toTtuwMCCK Does anyone know who is owner of this pool? I am the owner. There was few payouts, but you was not squeezed in by payout script. You should get paid as soon as we have a block. Now I am trying to figure out what shares has been already paid and which was not. Should be resolved until tomorrow.
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ehhhh .... I pointed CPUs there ... and will observe what will happen ... for now guess no need to spam anymore Feeling bad but shit always happens to me looks good, you are getting paid as you are active user and have your big shares back in the que. Shares are being rightly tagged as paid so everything from now on (and when backlog get more or less paid) should be ok.
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bug where only one share per address was marked as paid, not all of them. That makes some shares paid multiple times. That bug should be fixed now and shares should be tagged as paid ok now.
yes, amount in stats is quite on spot for you, but other miners might have a long list of unpaid shares which was already paid. That 50% I was refering to was of mined vertcoins for whole node ( ie 7vtc mined per block, you should get 3.5vtc more or less). yes, bug kinda ate it. It was counting some shares multiple times instead of once, so they were paid multiple times, which hurt your earnings. and the MINED COINS are sent to miners on my node by that script, which had that counting bug. So they are distributed between them. I said that multiple times and dont know how to said it differently. and again, that 0.1vtc and 1mon is setup in payout script from devs. Check it on github. everyone can change it. I left it that way, because it was setup by devs. No ripping intensions. I was talking to bengt (dev) and asking him about that setup. He said I can make it bigger, so I did, it is now higher and will be tweaked as payouts go on. I checked some nodes and they have too 0.1 vtc limit. Everyone who did not changed that payout script have it setup that way.
and as I said, taht payout is paying all shares from now back for which it has coins available.
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@soulnecturn it is capped to 0.1vtc per transaction, not block. last matured block was paid in 4 transactions of almost 2vtc each, which makes what we get from each block. IIRC payout script is being reworked to make our lives easier and miners happy If 0.1 vtc per transaction... in current moment this mean for my not paid vtc I need 340 transactions to be paid so question left... how often transactions happening then ? As I see sometimes every 5 minutes and sometimes every some hours .... (no comments about those hours with 0.1 vtc max per transaction...)... SO.... does it mean that nothing left than wait around week to be paid what was mined till now ? 0.o Just please confirm me if I am ok or wrong as I have feeling you avoiding straight answer :/ Currently after almost day mining there with 10Mhs = less then 7 verts received ... heh ... just how funny this look ... payout script runs every 5 minutes. It will check if it has coins in wallets to pay out, if yes, it will scan past shares and pay for them, then set them as paid. If not, it waits another 5 minutes and check again. As of now, it is set to 1MON or 0.1VTC per transaction. I will try to raise limit, but there can be problem, that you hug all payouts and others get nothing. Will have to tinker with it. IIRC there was or is a bug where paid shares was not tagged as paid, so it can be problem here. Shares from other miners was not tagged and it is still trying to pay them. That can hurt your earnings. About what you can do to speed up coin sendings. Sadly nothing. I can raise payment limit and see what it does. Right now, there is one immature block of each coin in wallets. Will see what happens. And I am not sure if you get something if you stops mining, because cppsrb is paying back for shares from now as far as it can (still have coins to send) which means active miners will get paid first. This is to discourage pool hopping. So in worst case scenario (really slow network blocks), you might not see your shares paid. Say what? So ... if I mine I will be waiting more and more to get what should already got + what will rise if will mine still... And if I stop to wait for payments - simply I will be screwed?? Is this the way? If this is how nodes works... and my effort to make it more decentralized look ... HOW... simply HOW I can trust p2pools like those now? How anyone else can ? Btw - didnt I asked before if my miners wont make problems? Why NOW you wrote this? I see it this way: - Basing on other nodes - I see almost everywhere normal amounts paid with every transaction - only here silly 0.1 ... ?? - I dont understand how your p2pool wallet is empty if my rigs mined into it since last day? WHERE ARE THE coins then? You mean your wallet borrow all and crediting me to pay off "sometime"... COMMON!!! If this way this will work HOW the hell would be possible to trust nodes? I am not writing this as ignorant ... but hell I am sure this is totally wrong... And I was wondering why really so many staying and getting back to pools like simplevert.com Its dramatic I hope you find way as I cannot put miner back there - since I cannot give anymore coins on credit :/ or just give? pfff this is messed :/ The first part: this is how cppsrb work. Sadly, there was a bug which did not tagged shares as paid so they where paid multiple times (should be fixed now, check erkmos github). With your hashrate you should be getting ~50% of mined vtc, but you did get much less (most likely that bug). second part: I did not said anything, simply because I did not know about that bug at that time. Learned about it earlier today. third part: that silly 0.1 is in payout script on github, just did pull. I made some changes so it should pay more now in one tx. Wallet is empty, because as soon as it has some coins, it will move them to miners using payout script. in wallet is now 0.3VTC and 7.65vtc immature which will get paid as soon as it is matured. If you check list of VTC transactions send from node wallet, you will see, taht 138.4 VTC was sent out. Backlog has 67.45 VTC unpaid. And out mining address recieved 147.91 VTC. if you add what I paid and backlog, you will get 205.85 VTC. As you can see, this is much higher than what we mined. Some of it is due to slow first 2 days on second network, and some of it are shares which was not properly tagged as paid and caused this issue. I understand your frustration, but I cannot do anything about it. And as said multiple times before. This is temporary sollution. Much better solution where there is no middle man, just as good old p2pool, is in the works. You will be welcomed to p2pool once it is done and you and other wont have to trust anyone
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@soulnecturn it is capped to 0.1vtc per transaction, not block. last matured block was paid in 4 transactions of almost 2vtc each, which makes what we get from each block. IIRC payout script is being reworked to make our lives easier and miners happy If 0.1 vtc per transaction... in current moment this mean for my not paid vtc I need 340 transactions to be paid so question left... how often transactions happening then ? As I see sometimes every 5 minutes and sometimes every some hours .... (no comments about those hours with 0.1 vtc max per transaction...)... SO.... does it mean that nothing left than wait around week to be paid what was mined till now ? 0.o Just please confirm me if I am ok or wrong as I have feeling you avoiding straight answer :/ Currently after almost day mining there with 10Mhs = less then 7 verts received ... heh ... just how funny this look ... payout script runs every 5 minutes. It will check if it has coins in wallets to pay out, if yes, it will scan past shares and pay for them, then set them as paid. If not, it waits another 5 minutes and check again. As of now, it is set to 1MON or 0.1VTC per transaction. I will try to raise limit, but there can be problem, that you hug all payouts and others get nothing. Will have to tinker with it. IIRC there was or is a bug where paid shares was not tagged as paid, so it can be problem here. Shares from other miners was not tagged and it is still trying to pay them. That can hurt your earnings. About what you can do to speed up coin sendings. Sadly nothing. I can raise payment limit and see what it does. Right now, there is one immature block of each coin in wallets. Will see what happens. And I am not sure if you get something if you stops mining, because cppsrb is paying back for shares from now as far as it can (still have coins to send) which means active miners will get paid first. This is to discourage pool hopping. So in worst case scenario (really slow network blocks), you might not see your shares paid.
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@soulnecturn it is capped to 0.1vtc per transaction, not block. last matured block was paid in 4 transactions of almost 2vtc each, which makes what we get from each block. IIRC payout script is being reworked to make our lives easier and miners happy
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open wallet, go to help -> debug -> console enter getnetworkhashps
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well, you can expect to get steady payments. You should get all your coins sooner or later it all depends on rate of finding blocks and stuff like that. Keep in mind that all those numbers are fixed values of shares and payouts are affected by founding a block. Which means slow blocks slow payouts, fast blocks fast payouts. it doesnt really matter on which network we mine, in the end we will get same payouts everywhere. you will get paid as long as you have valid shares in database, even if you are not mining. You should probably, as everyone else, read how this payout system works http://eligius.st/~gateway/faq/capped-pps-recent-backpay Might shed some light on your situation Just to make sure I'm getting this right, on a merged pool there are thus two levels for the VTC part: at the p2pool level a single address, the node's address, is being paid the VTC using PPLNS, while at the proxypool level that payment is redistributed using CPPSRB? And the MON part is basically a "pooled" solomining redistributed using CPPSRB, which will only be payable once a block is found? exactly, this is right
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well, you can expect to get steady payments. You should get all your coins sooner or later it all depends on rate of finding blocks and stuff like that. Keep in mind that all those numbers are fixed values of shares and payouts are affected by founding a block. Which means slow blocks slow payouts, fast blocks fast payouts. it doesnt really matter on which network we mine, in the end we will get same payouts everywhere. you will get paid as long as you have valid shares in database, even if you are not mining. You should probably, as everyone else, read how this payout system works http://eligius.st/~gateway/faq/capped-pps-recent-backpay Might shed some light on your situation
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@soulnecturn Yes, I am the owner. Script is set to pay each round only a little more then min transaction value is (set by devs, you can check it on github). that check is run every 5 minutes. If there are coins in wallet (matured) it will pay everyone it can. those predictions are just sum of submitted shares which was not yet paid. Which means, they were not marked as vtcpaid or monpaid in database. I am trying to get to show coin balances on node wallets in some inteligent way. Not sure when I get it done. you can always check our vtc mining wallet http://explorer.vertcoin.org/address/VkJkGBLemPnnTML9MB5P557ZLZw5znqABt right now it has a balanace of littlebit over 20 VTC which are all immatured (~5h mature time).
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Just bought WoW gametime, fast, easy and delivered good job. btw https is bloken?
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THanks, merged and did some minor tweaks to get it work probs get another problems in xD
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if node operator stay on top of things (updated payout script and check if it is actualy running) everything is going well
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@perezoso efectivly, one :9555 node is one address on standard p2pool stats
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