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1  Economy / Economics / Re: Read this before having an opinion on economics on: June 22, 2011, 06:43:49 AM
Economics in One Lesson: http://www.hacer.org/pdf/Hazlitt00.pdf

It's a great read. It's brief. It doesn't go into a lot of technical detail but it does illustrate a central fallacy that many people, even some economists, make when thinking about economics. If you haven't read this book, I'm going to assume you're ignorant about economics until proven otherwise.

I usually recommend Economics for Real People ( http://mises.org/books/econforrealpeople.pdf )

I think it comes off as less paranoid, even though I agree that One Lesson is sound.

Wow... thanks for the tips! I'm on page 54 of Economics for Real People. It makes so much sense! I'm even more impressed with Ron Paul, who's stated he reads from mises.org and lewrockwell.org every day.

I also recommend Ron Paul's books, as well as Griffin's "The Creature from Jekyll Island".
2  Economy / Economics / Re: The general flaw of fiat money and how its associated with Bitcoins on: June 22, 2011, 03:48:51 AM
The general problem of Fiat Money that causes most the economic problems is the hoarding of money...

Since Fiat money is inflationary (on purpose, to give criminals the ability to fund things they couldn't through direct taxation), hoarding fiat money means you have less today than you did yesterday.

Fiat currency = rotting meat

There is no incentive to "save" rotting meat...
3  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to attract late adopter ? on: June 22, 2011, 03:15:35 AM
I don't think attracting late adopters will be an issue. If Bitcoin survives it's early growth/volatility phase, the late adopters (who by definition are always late to the party) will get over the "it's new/scary/phony/scam" and start thinking "it's normal".

My point is that there should not be a party and there should not be late or early for this to be adopted by ordinary merchants.


I don't think "should/shouldn't" is relevant in a free market. Whatever is (outside of manipulation/intervention) is what is. The market [miners/investors/adopters] define what "should" be.

Any other way of looking at this leads to the possibility of legal tender laws where you force people to accept something they don't want. That is directly opposite of free market. The thinking and force behind those laws are proximately behind the situation leading us to be interested in bitcoins as an alternative to their fiat currency!
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm Kevin, here's my side. on: June 21, 2011, 06:53:07 AM
3) The precedent they're setting here cannot be maintained.

Exactly what happened here may never be fully known, but according to Mt Gox an unauthorized user accessed someone's account and placed a sell order. Passwords get guessed/leaked all the time, and any exchange that attempts to undo that in every case will undoubtably fail.

If I'm careless with my password and someone places orders on my behalf in my account without my permission, will Mt Gox revert an hour's worth of trading to fix it? What if I only had 2 bitcoins? Or 20? or 200? There is no way rolling back trades to handle a compromised password in any way that will scale to the size of bitcoin's current economy. Unless Mt Gox is wiling to explicitly say they'll give this same treatment to any user who has their account compromised, it's blatantly unfair to everyone else.

This also opens the door to allowing anyone to request equal treatment if they made some trades they later regret. Log in through a proxy to make it seem like someone from a distant country was using your account, make your trades, then later scream about how your account was compromised and you want a do-over.
This is the key right here.

Make no mistake, if they do a roll back and if my account gets hacked in the future I will be demanding a roll back no matter how many BTC are traded.  And I rather like the proxy idea you stated.  I might just have to go for a super risky trade and demand a rollback if it doesn't work and claim hacking.

Moral hazard, anyone?
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Moral_hazard
5  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Open-Transactions the trading system of the future? on: June 21, 2011, 05:50:29 AM
Thanks!
6  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Report Volume ... on YouTube on: June 21, 2011, 05:49:43 AM
I have two coworkers who got into it about three weeks before I did... it took that many days of chatting with them for me to understand enough to want in Wink

I'm very fortunate for their patience and assistance, one of them even spec'd and built my rig for me, then walked me through getting up and mining.

+1 for great friends
7  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: June 21, 2011, 05:47:14 AM
Wow... because I'm a noob.

Same. Mehhh...

Story of my life.
8  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Deflation: Wage rates and the employee VS the Employer on: June 21, 2011, 05:45:39 AM
If they understand market pressure...

An informed populace... would have prevented the situation we are in right now. And I'm not talking about MtGox.
9  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Open-Transactions the trading system of the future? on: June 21, 2011, 05:38:10 AM

1) — The typical centralized system is fully-traceable. You are
always under the watchful gaze of the “all-seeing eye”.

But on OPEN-TRANSACTIONS, blind signatures are employed, providing
untraceable digital cash.

I won't pretend to understand that whole post... but getting out from under the all-seeing eye of Sauron is a worthy effort.
10  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to attract late adopter ? on: June 21, 2011, 05:23:47 AM
I don't think attracting late adopters will be an issue. If Bitcoin survives it's early growth/volatility phase, the late adopters (who by definition are always late to the party) will get over the "it's new/scary/phony/scam" and start thinking "it's normal".
11  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trading Houses - The Lowdown on: June 21, 2011, 05:18:44 AM
Isn't part of the point of having a free-market that everyone is responsible for their own actions? I personally am investing with the same philosophy I use for poker... I bring what I can afford to lose, and no more.

A major part of the reason Bitcoin caught my fancy is that it is unregulated by the same criminals who've been manipulating the rest of the economy in my country.

I want the chance to participate in a free market before I die...
12  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Deflation: Wage rates and the employee VS the Employer on: June 21, 2011, 05:14:51 AM
I haven't studied the Austrian School, but I do know that Keynes has been completely discredited by by anyone who's actually bothered to notice what's been going on in our economy...

I know that Ron Paul is an advocate of the Austrian School, and he's the first politician I've believed has integrity since I was old enough to pay attention to the difference between what "public servants" (cough) say and what they actually do.

Not topical to the deflationary question regarding wages, but general to a prominent antidote to the dominant [collectivist/redistributionist/socialist/fascist] Keynesian followers.
13  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Calm Before The Storm on: June 21, 2011, 05:03:59 AM
I'm sorry that Mt.Gox is still down... I had just started trading on this Saturday, and went to bed right before the crash. There's a YouTube video posted where a guy recorded the Sierra Chart feed as the crash happened... Breathtaking! I wish I had seen that.

This is the first emerging market I've witnessed, and I'm very interested in seeing where this goes.
14  Other / Beginners & Help / Bitcoin Report Volume ... on YouTube on: June 21, 2011, 04:59:44 AM
I'm watching Bitcoin Report Volume 7 on YouTube right now. It's interesting watching this guy's evolution. We both started looking into Bitcoin at the same time, so I can empathize with his initial confusion Smiley
15  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: June 21, 2011, 04:56:51 AM
Hello, my name is flaxindo. I like sunny days, long walks on the beach, and watching the pretty colors at bitcoincharts.com
16  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie restrictions on: June 21, 2011, 04:53:09 AM
Thank you for the instructions, I was wondering why I couldn't post.
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