The right people have gotten involved with Florin, Gulden has a few rotten apples it needs to shed before the course can be corrected.

If all the available florin and gulden supply was dumped at current prices. Florins available supply is worth 14,070,816 and Gulden 4,583,79. To give you an idea how surpressed the Gulden rate is.

One of the community members from the USA pointed out the first batch of major florin holding accounts will start expiring from the 29th January and within 2 weeks +200k florin will be made available on the market, if 25% of the florin profits is converted to Gulden then it's possible to buy 5 million Gulden off the markets. This looks to be adding value to me.

Ofc selling all the florin holding accounts at once would drop the florin price to under $5, this process will take time but I doubt users will hold with as much florin as before because they miss out on these price fluctuations. A lot of the florin holders were also promised a airdrop with the premine but this incentive is gone as the premine was sold. Traders are also making much more florin and btc profit by not holding. I also expect one more pump before these holding accounts start expiring.

Florin also serves a different purpose, it's rare and slower blocktimes all setup for store of value. Gulden is setup as a currency with faster blocktimes and enough supply to act as a good payment method with a more stable price.

I would hold onto the florin in the short term, with less than 1 btc the price will triple. I like Gulden but look at the sell orders on bittrex, it does not look good.  Short term you better off with holding your florin and selling Gulden.

The master of FUD returns, to put any suspicion to rest... The GAB holds the €50000 raised for the bitvavo funding and with the removal of bitcoinmeester this will be high on the agenda to get a new exchange service for Gulden.

Rijk and his team must be happy that all the years of work on Gulden is going to pay itself through florin. The power of Witnessing will get attention from this coin, Gulden has it all but didn't get the right investors to back it. It's clear as day that Gulden has always been undervalued for what it offered and Florin is showing this off.

The florin user base is maybe 5% of Gulden and proves that traders are keeping the price down for small gains.

Florin:

Market Cap: 6,884,261
Fully Diluted Market Cap: $17,693,006

Gulden

Market Cap: $5,191,900
Fully Diluted Market Cap: $6,509,898

If I was the dev team I would focus on development for Florin because this is the only way Gulden will get exposure, it took another coin with the same tech and 5% of the users to show how good Gulden is.

Rijk only focus is development, everything else has to come from the community.

This is the reason 5% of my crypto folio is in Gulden, the price is stable and moves up slowly with time. Hype is non existent and the team keeps trucking on with development without chasing short term money. It's very Gen X type mentality, boring but hard work ethic from the developers.

Don't quote me but from what I remember on slack when the reward change was discussed. +- €0.04c and the development team can be permanently on Gulden, including Rijk.

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/gulden/eur

Current rate is 0.014, a stable price of 2.8 times more then current price and the outlook for Gulden changes drastically. I would like to see Rijk given the chance to go conferences, promote gulden on podcasts, popular youtube channels etc.

It will take 2 or 3 months after the reward change for the market to adjust to the new reality. You will notice with bitcoin that the price doesn't jump straight after the reward halving but takes 3 - 6 months. Traders will try to collect as much of the pre halving rate value as possible, until the upward pressure can no longer be denied. My prediction is 2-3 months of these prices with range of 50-75% in dips and jumps.

Bart said on slack the developers are building a buffer incase of another crypto bear market. When the buffer is good the rest will go into the exchange. The developers have contributed over 200 000 of the rewards to bitvavo and building up a buffer together.

To me florin is a commodity you lock up in a vault somewhere and go back to it when the time is needed. Like holding physical gold, keep it in a safe and you never look at it unless you need to sell it for those times when unexpected expenditure comes in your life.. Where Gulden is the coin you will use , spend , trade etc. With the max supply and reward changes Gulden also providing a store of value. Gulden is at a perfect balance of providing the right amount of supply with these changes. The 160 constant reward prevented me from recommending Gulden to family and friends, now I don't hesistate to promote it because they will also benefit in a few years.

7 million in buy support to 50sat and this is still double the sat price we started off with before the max supply and possible reward changes. Lots of marketing starting to take place in NL, so between now and the reward change in August you can expect more buyers.

The change is coming in August which is 3.5 months away, but we don't know what change. The devs might have to reduce funding from 70 to 60 and give miners 30 like witnessing for security reasons, if the security is good then more funding for development,  marketing and exchanges.

Can't wait... NOT

I used https://www.bitcoinmeester.nl/gulden for the first time today to purchase 2107 Gulden. Worked well.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Most are well aware of the problems and the Gulden advisory board is dealing with it 1 step at a time, first with the reward changes. Positive times are a coming.

sry for you trolls but the change is coming, the market is already showing signs of it.

Gulden is getting a lot of buy support at these prices, the users who don't want a reward change are showing the max supply and rewards don't need to be reduced. There is a month worth of buy support above 18 on bittrex, if they can keep the btc in place to soak up the dumps while new users also place btc down the price could go up.  

Sorry for you doxoliday!

Good to see you can respect someone after disagreements in the past. Novo is bringing a unified community and providing investors and traders what Gulden can't.

Gulden will still do ok in the future and if your under 30 its a good long term investment. I think if you over 60 Novo is better because you want to enjoy your investment growth while you still alive.

Gulden advisory board is meeting tonight to discuss the max reward and other topics. I don't know if rewards will be changed or if witnesses will end up with 75% of the reward and miners 25%.

From past experience, it takes a day before we hear the outcome of what was discussed.