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I am not sure if this answers your question about the stuck balance. But could it be that the coins that need to be traded into btc are off too low of value to be traded at any exchange. For example cryptsy wont let you trade 1 dvc since its its value is too low for a trade so you need a couple of coins. Since these are pools that mine multiple coins maybe the last of these get get stuck. I had the same problem when I stopped mining. I do mine it as my backup pool now with a couple of old usb dual miner sticks running on cleaver as primary.
I mine here half the time. The other half, a pool with an API so keeping track is automatic... I have made about 1.5 BTC, and my max possible stuck balance is about .01. (How could I know for sure?) I database my stats, I am just fascinated with the numbers...but if the damned immature and unexchanged suddenly said ZERO, could I argue? Would it be worth my time to argue? In my car, I keep quarters in the rubber iPad cup. The other coins I keep in an old cigarette pack (now I vape). Since 1984, all the pennies are not even made of copper...how many do I have? Forgive me Caesar, but why should I care? BUT I am sympathetic to new miners who dont have many devices and they are trying, just like me, to catch the flow of it. I dont care about how many BTC fall off the truck or how many Turk makes...I care how many I make. If you arent making at least .01 per day, sell something and buy another miner...so called "stuck balances" never kept anybody from getting a payout... |
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Wow! At 90 GH/s that one address accounts for more than half the entire pool size. That's an operation, not just some guy. According to searches, I think this is the Chinese whale. I guess he grew up, because last I paid attention to him his farm was a lot smaller. Dont you reckon it's >suchmoon< ? Used to be, when you clicked the Search for User button, you got a list of wallet addresses, and how much hash per day they were generating, and how much payout they were getting. I did spreadsheet to see where I stood in the mix. And I took down the address of the guy who had been top dog for a few days running. I set alerts for his address on blockchain.com, so I get email about how much he is taking in. I named the alert "CMFish"...  Clever Mining Not-quite-a-whale-maybe... |
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I tell this story in case it helps somebody. Also, maybe, somebody will tell me a better way. I run some Fury's and Zeus Blizzards on cgminer 3.1.1. My command line names the com ports of each Fury specifically like this: ..... -S //./COM260 -S //./COM266 and so on. Today I added my 10th Fury, and after I hooked it up, cgminer would not start! I unplugged the new device, no change. ...Because I had moved the miners around to different hubs and such over time, I had a few com ports listed that had no Fury's hooked to them, so each time I start cgminer it says like "cant connect to com 170..." and such. On a hunch, I removed my four non-existent com ports from the command line, and now cgminer starts just fine. My conclusion: There is a limit to how many com ports you can specify on the command line of cgminer 3.1.1. It would seem the limit is 13. (Somebody who can READ might already have known this fact |
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Can someone from CleverMining please tell me if you Scrypt multiport is the
exact same as the one GAW Zen cloud is using?
I bought a miner piece from oneminer.com, who is a day-vendor of GAW products. My piece was delayed, and oneminer.com hooked me up free with https://cloud.zenminer.com for the duration of the delay. Only ONE pool was available to me, and that was BTC Guild. Mind you, my piece was a BTC-only, not scrypt hardware, so my reply might be worthless to you. But Hello! . |
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bfgminer is supporting rbox already?
Not that I know of. Was a stray line, sorry. Oh, no! I really dont want to use WinUSB. I'm successfully running about 60 other devices without WinUSB, using native drivers like STMicroelectronics Virtual COM Port or Silicon Labs CP210x USB to UART Bridge. I dont want to risk my whole setup for this one R-Box... no options besides WinUSB? |
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First post on here so forgive my stupidity. Been on CM for about 14 days now. Payouts seem to be regular and earnings consistent. A shame the BTC per MH/s has dropped massively over last month but I guess thats the result of the ASICs flooding the scene. My question is this CM mines the most profitable coin in comparison to LTC, right? So say LTC is paying 0.007 BTC/MH per day then CM will look for a better coin to mine to exceed that said 0.007 BTC? So why the hell when no coin is available with a higher payout % doesn't CM just mine LTC instead of dropping the payout to something like 40% of LTC? Am I missing the absolute obvious? Please shine some light, I would be so grateful, many thanks. Midge http://www.clevermining.com/users/1MjbHQ9YY3CGNsmyPTCC5vpXtVGtwsNLTg[edit] If you wondering why I have such high rejects, its because my 26MH/s HASHRA sucks and is being shipped back to china on Monday, its faulty. Roll on when my 10 x 14MH/s miners turn up, bloody hope they make back the £7500 I have spent!!! 3 year ROI anyone? eeeek! This is addressed on nearly every page in this thread. The short version is: VARIANCE. Slightly longer version: you wouldn't get 100% LTC profitability if you mined only LTC - due to pool fees, orphans etc. Furthermore, due to the random nature of mining (i.e. luck) you would have days significantly below 100% as well as above. In other words if CM is doing >= 98% LTC profitability it's already beating LTC-only mining, and you can see it's been above 100% quite consistently: http://clevermining.com/profitsI don't think it ever was at 40% LTC though. Now for the really bad news enter your numbers here: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/calculatorTry 5% difficulty increase (optimistic) and then 10% (less optimistic) Suchmoon, can you detail how %LTC Profitability is calculated? |
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First post on here so forgive my stupidity. Been on CM for about 14 days now. Payouts seem to be regular and earnings consistent. A shame the BTC per MH/s has dropped massively over last month but I guess thats the result of the ASICs flooding the scene. My question is this CM mines the most profitable coin in comparison to LTC, right? So say LTC is paying 0.007 BTC/MH per day then CM will look for a better coin to mine to exceed that said 0.007 BTC? So why the hell when no coin is available with a higher payout % doesn't CM just mine LTC instead of dropping the payout to something like 40% of LTC? Am I missing the absolute obvious? Please shine some light, I would be so grateful, many thanks. Midge http://www.clevermining.com/users/1MjbHQ9YY3CGNsmyPTCC5vpXtVGtwsNLTg[edit] If you wondering why I have such high rejects, its because my 26MH/s HASHRA sucks and is being shipped back to china on Monday, its faulty. Roll on when my 10 x 14MH/s miners turn up, bloody hope they make back the £7500 I have spent!!! 3 year ROI anyone? eeeek! Pardon my laziness at this moment...Terk himself posted a message that responds perfectly to your question, sometime in the last 10 pages. The message must have been hypnotic, because I accepted the veracity of it, yet I dont remember the meaning! |
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Been mining here for a few days and have 0.02531212 ready for payout.
I feel I should have had 2 payouts by now.
Can someone tell me when I can expect my payout?
Here' my address 1bQQKrNBbGT3zdmJpz7Jos8F6MBBWCstw.
Thanks..
It looks to me as if you started mining at Clever at 2014-07-11 22:00:00 UTC. Payouts happen regularly (with rare late-pay exceptions) each day at 01:30:00 UTC. I'm thinking your READY FOR PAYOUT had not yet reached 0.01 BTC by 01:30, after only 3.5 hours of mining, so you should expect a payout "today", which will be 2014-07-13 01:30:00 UTC, or Saturday 9:30 EDT. |
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with the huge hashrate terk has here he cannot mine the smaller more profitable coins (like in the < 1 difficulty range that i can) without a massive disruption to the blockchain and way over 51% hashing power. so he is forced to either 1) take that massive hashrate and somehow split it into smaller chunks (perhaps mining several smaller coins at the same time, splitting the hashrate amung them) or 2) limiting himself to the larget difficulties and often less profitable coins.
If there is some type of code/algorithm that does this maybe splits the TOP 10 most profitable coins and splits the hashrate, I recon the more hash the better if your doing 10 coins split.... If you do 2 or 3 then this is still huge hashrate spread.. PS: I have stopped mining here for the time being and I have had over 0.01 but some in unexchanged and unmature for 1-2days now has not moved . I had a similar situation, and I guess I "woke up" the payout process by doing a little bit of mining here on Saturday, before 9 pm EDT. |
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The time has finally come! If you pay for electricity in the US and are mining with a radeon GPU the cost of the electricity is greater than the value of the BTC youre receiving through this pool for most. Its been a fun ride everyone. The LTC hashrate has increased over 50% in the last 2 weeks(!!!) and is only going to continue to rise rapidly. ASIC are here and are only going to get cheaper and more powerful.
However, the depressed BTC is actually a good thing. There is much profit to be made by selling hardware and buying cheap BTC
Oh, you again. We heard that 2 weeks ago from you. I'd really like to see what Terk has to say about this and if he's considering any X11 multipool. What kind of hardware do you need to mine X11? |
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I have just now found your message, and I really appreciate it. What an exciting thread that is! Terk, thanks for settling the score of the unexchanged balance. I had figured that was just coins that had died but glad to see that there is progress to be made there. Perhaps it's less of an issue to me because my balance stuck unexchanged is literally just .002. So. Not too concerned about $0.90 Even though I dont have volt-modded Gridseeds, I have over-clocked them, and one of them gave 0 hardware errors at 950, so...it would do me well to be able to target individual units for specific clock speeds, or, as you suggest, use auto-tuning software.
Not only can you target individual units with a clock speed, you can target individual CHIPS within those units with a clock speed. If you run the autotune, you can get the results per chip from the API. If you're comfortable mucking around with some basic PHP, here's a script that will, based on autotune results, give you a command line string to start up your miner with the per chip settings. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482352.msg6603449#msg6603449 |
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Thanks. Today's payout was delayed by two hours because I was working on processing ~50 BTC unexchanged balance from the last three weeks. We had some trades on an exchange which API we had problem with. We couldn't collect our trade history and it was the reason for unexchanged balance being so high recently (trades were made but we couldn't sync them into our database). This is fixed now and we have this exchange running on our automated sync from now on. Payouts are running just now.
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What's so clever about CleverMining is largely Terk. The pool does not publish which coins are being mined because...well, I think it's the fact that Terk considers that info to be hard-earned work product, and to publish it would be to give away free to other pools what Terk has...you know, spent hours to figure out. Or maybe he doesnt like being second-guessed... But there are lots of clever miners here, too, and some of them have posted about how to figure out, from reading the display of your miner software, what coin is likely being mined at a given moment. I think it has to do with looking at "difficulty", then finding a site that lists the profitability of all coins, sort the list by difficulty, then seeing if you can match the difficulty of a specific coin to the difficulty we are presently mining at. Some coins are very fast, and there are new blocks like every minute.
CleverMining is a coin-switching pool, so every time it switches a coin, a "new block" will also occur.
Ok, thank you. I am browsing the site and can not find any information about what type of coins are being mined and blocks processed... |
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It seems that when I run cgminer, I have to start the software, THEN plug in the USB...I like it about BFGminer that I can just leave the Gridseeds plugged in and running, and restart the software at will. I tried a Scripta image, but it was set to Italian, and to a strange keyboard. For some people it might be easy enough to set locale and keyboard, but...for me, especially with having to guess which key dispenses which character, I punted and moved along to another miner. I am afraid to overclock, on the theory that I cant afford for mining hardware to go POP. (That may be an excuse...those resistors are mighty small...) I am still running DualMiners, 1/5 the hash of a Gridseed, and I actually paid more for them than I am now paying for Gridseeds, but they wont earn coin if they're not plugged in. One of the DualMiners went POP. Bad voltage regulator, and I plan to replace it. "When I get a chance." Even though I dont have volt-modded Gridseeds, I have over-clocked them, and one of them gave 0 hardware errors at 950, so...it would do me well to be able to target individual units for specific clock speeds, or, as you suggest, use auto-tuning software.
As soon as the theory hit me that the power supply didnt have enough ass, I wanted to check the voltage under the load of the GS. It has a molded plug, so no screwing off the plastic cover to get at the terminals. If it had regular twin lead running to it, I could have stuck a needle in each wire and measured the voltage that way, but no, it's coaxial cable. So I hooked up another power supply, and bam bam bam one acceptance after another.
It's a blessing, really, I learned lots more about the Pi than I would have...
I had this same issue. Had 2 hooked up to a cheep USB hub, and they'd just drop off. 1 was no issue. Got a better hub, and have had no issue since. I'm using Scripta right now, but I think I'm going to give Minera a shot. I seamed to do better with the auto-tune, and BFGminer doesn't have that. And, until I can get all mine volt modded that might help as well. Terk, Just keep doing what you're doing. You're always going to have someone complain about something you're "not doing right". And, a quick question. Do you plan on doing Vardiff again? Not a huge deal, but just don't like seeing so many rejects on my GridSeeds.  Now convert all my coins.... kidding kidding. |
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Well, dont process EVERYBODY's unexchanged balance, JUST DO MINE! Joke. I understand that nobody likes the unexchanged balance. I'm sorry it is taking so long to resolve. The reason for it is that something what usually is automated failed and stuff needs to be checked and/or done manually (which usually is a long and uphill task to check/deal with every mined block) and it's hard to find the time for it as ongoing pool maintenance and tasks are taking really lot of time. There are tons of new coins to monitor and/or include in the pool, some coins are suddenly forking or causing other problems, some new coins are traded only on new exchanges which API needs to be implemented quickly (because period while these new coins are profitable is very short nowadays), and so on. And it's just the high-level stuff, but there's also lot of low-level tech stuff underneath that require constant attention.
We had a very busy week with several new coins and I didn't really do anything other than ongoing stuff in the last week. This is not an excuse. I know I should find the time to deal with these issues and I'll try to do this as soon as possible. Dealing with our past unexchanged balances is my top priority now and I'll work on it as soon as I will be able to spend time on scheduled tasks. I apologise again for this inconvenience.
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Let me describe the solution to my own problem about "No accepted shares" in case it might benefit somebody whose search brings them to this thread. I have two separate farms of gridseeds, but when I wanted to learn to use Raspberry Pi, I went to a third location. I wanted just a standalone rig where Pi and I could get acquainted. No hub, just USB straight from Pi to GS. For power supply, I used a single-unit, "12v 1A" supply that came with one of my Gridseeds. And that power supply is what turned out to be the problem. As soon as the theory hit me that the power supply didnt have enough ass, I wanted to check the voltage under the load of the GS. It has a molded plug, so no screwing off the plastic cover to get at the terminals. If it had regular twin lead running to it, I could have stuck a needle in each wire and measured the voltage that way, but no, it's coaxial cable. So I hooked up another power supply, and bam bam bam one acceptance after another. It's a blessing, really, I learned lots more about the Pi than I would have... I can't help you but I'm really interested in a solution. Because I get exactly the same as you.
I tried everything but nothing works.
The only thing I can imagine is that the bios of the device might be broken.
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Let me describe the solution to my problem about "No accepted shares" in case it might benefit somebody whose search brings them to this thread. I have two separate farms of gridseeds, but when I wanted to learn to use Raspberry Pi, I went to a third location. I wanted just a standalone rig where Pi and I could get acquainted. No hub, just USB straight from Pi to GS. For power supply, I used a single-unit, "12v 1A" supply that came with one of my Gridseeds. And that power supply is what turned out to be the problem. As soon as the theory hit me that the power supply didnt have enough ass, I wanted to check the voltage under the load of the GS. It has a molded plug, so no screwing off the plastic cover to get at the terminals. If it had regular twin lead running to it, I could have stuck a needle in each wire and measured the voltage that way, but no, it's coaxial cable. So I hooked up another power supply, and bam bam bam one acceptance after another. It's a blessing, really, I learned lots more about the Pi than I would have... It seems the gridseed-support feature is gone from nwoolls repository. So I substituted: git clone git://github.com/luke-jr/bfgminer.git
I really appreciate your step-by-step, which inspires me to present YOU with my question: I have tried the GAWminers img, and the Zoomhash img, and I have built several Raspbian Wheezy systems, including yours . I have tried installing a python stratum proxy. I have used cgminer and bfgminer. I get the same results no matter what I do: I connect to a pool, I get no Accepts. (I have tried various pools, including this one, but I mainly use a different pool so I can watch my dashboard on it to see hashrate...) I restart the miner, sometimes I get one (1) Accept, then no more. One time, using cgminer, I got quite a few Accepts in a row. In fact, I got 32 Accepts each time my work was accepted. When the number of Accepts got to 1072, it stopped. (I realize 1072 is not a multiple of 32, I'm just telling the truth...) I am not looking for anybody to help me debug and such, I am just hoping that my situation rings a bell with you. git clone -b feature/gridseed-support https://github.com/nwoolls/bfgminer
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Thanks very much for responding, and I will indeed try out Minera, but NOT as a solution to my problem, as it turns out. Let me describe the actual solution, because people are apt to find my OP when searching for their own instance of my trouble. I have two separate farms of gridseeds, but when I wanted to learn to use Raspberry Pi, I went to a third location. I wanted just a standalone rig where Pi and I could get acquainted. No hub, just USB straight from Pi to GS. For power supply, I used a single-unit, "12v 1A" supply that came with one of my Gridseeds. And that power supply is what turned out to be the problem. As soon as the theory hit me that the power supply didnt have enough ass, I wanted to check the voltage under the load of the GS. It has a molded plug, so no screwing off the plastic cover to get at the terminals. If it had regular twin lead running to it, I could have stuck a needle in each wire and measured the voltage that way, but no, it's coaxial cable. So I hooked up another power supply, and bam bam bam one acceptance after another. It's a blessing, really, I learned lots more about the Pi than I would have... I have been mining with Gridseeds, run by PC, using bfgminer.
Now I am trying to learn to mine using Raspberry Pi.
I have tried the GAWminers img, and the Zoomhash img, and I have built several Raspbian Wheezy systems myself. I have tried installing a python stratum proxy. I have used cgminer and bfgminer. I get the same results no matter what I do:
I connect to a pool, I get no Accepts. (I have tried various pools, including this one, but I mainly use a different pool so I can watch my dashboard on it to see hashrate...)
I restart the miner, sometimes I get one (1) Accept, then no more.
One time, using cgminer, I got quite a few Accepts in a row. In fact, I got 32 Accepts each time my work was accepted. When the number of Accepts got to 1072, it stopped. (I realize 1072 is not a multiple of 32, I'm just telling the truth...)
I am not looking for anybody to help me debug and such, I am just hoping that my situation rings a bell with you.
Try Minera which uses Sandor's modded, autotuning CPUminer. been using it for 3 gridseed 5chips and it's wonderful. |
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It seems the gridseed-support feature is gone from nwoolls repository. So I substituted: git clone git://github.com/luke-jr/bfgminer.git
I really appreciate your step-by-step, which inspires me to present YOU with my question: I have tried the GAWminers img, and the Zoomhash img, and I have built several Raspbian Wheezy systems, including yours . I have tried installing a python stratum proxy. I have used cgminer and bfgminer. I get the same results no matter what I do: I connect to a pool, I get no Accepts. (I have tried various pools, including this one, but I mainly use a different pool so I can watch my dashboard on it to see hashrate...) I restart the miner, sometimes I get one (1) Accept, then no more. One time, using cgminer, I got quite a few Accepts in a row. In fact, I got 32 Accepts each time my work was accepted. When the number of Accepts got to 1072, it stopped. (I realize 1072 is not a multiple of 32, I'm just telling the truth...) I am not looking for anybody to help me debug and such, I am just hoping that my situation rings a bell with you. git clone -b feature/gridseed-support https://github.com/nwoolls/bfgminer
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I have been mining with Gridseeds, run by PC, using bfgminer.
Now I am trying to learn to mine using Raspberry Pi.
I have tried the GAWminers img, and the Zoomhash img, and I have built several Raspbian Wheezy systems myself. I have tried installing a python stratum proxy. I have used cgminer and bfgminer. I get the same results no matter what I do:
I connect to a pool, I get no Accepts. (I have tried various pools, including this one, but I mainly use a different pool so I can watch my dashboard on it to see hashrate...)
I restart the miner, sometimes I get one (1) Accept, then no more.
One time, using cgminer, I got quite a few Accepts in a row. In fact, I got 32 Accepts each time my work was accepted. When the number of Accepts got to 1072, it stopped. (I realize 1072 is not a multiple of 32, I'm just telling the truth...)
I am not looking for anybody to help me debug and such, I am just hoping that my situation rings a bell with you.
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