How i can mine this coin?

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I think this says it all, they are laughing in our faces.... 

Just got this email,

Who ever got scammed, contact these people. They are looking into this theft.

Dear Sir/Madam,
 
I am writing to you as your name and contact details have been passed to Thames Valley Police who are looking into a number of complaints that have been lodged with the National Fraud Intelligence Bureau in the UK in relation to a company called Black Arrow.
 
I should say at the outset that there are a number of ways this matter could proceed. If it is decided that there appears to be sufficient evidence to warrant a criminal investigation then Thames Valley Police will take the matter forward though ultimately it will fall to the Crown Prosecution Service  to determine whether charges should be laid.  If Thames Valley Police consider there is insufficient evidence to investigate this as a potential criminal offence or the CPS fail to authorize criminal charges then you may wish to deal with any losses you feel you have suffered through the civil courts. Thames Valley Police will advise you in due course of the outcome of the enquiries it is currently undertaking.
 
In order for me to consider the matter further I should be grateful if you would let me have a response to the following:
 
1.       What was your understanding of the terms and conditions of the product you were purchasing from Black Arrow?

2.       Do you have a copy of these terms and conditions? If so, please scan and forward these to me.

3.       In simple terms, how did you intend using the product you purchased from Black Arrow?

 
I look forward to hearing from you,
 
Regards,
 
Mark
 
Mark Bennett | Civilian Investigator | Force CID Reading  | Thames Valley Police,
Castle Street, Reading RG1 7TH|  Int - 7516101|  Ext -01189 536101

no one really is and they are cutting their losses.

this is exactly what BA wanted.

But I am taking different action. I sent some really bad people on a manhunt. Then we will see who is ready to issue refunds.

Dear @@%@#$%

We do understand that situation may seem grim due to the delays that have happened, however the terms and conditions that you have agreed and signed when you purchased your order, have the necessary factors presented that has capacity and legal purpose. Everything was presented prior to you placing and purchasing your order.

Termination
11.1 We reserve the right to terminate and rescind an approved order, or the entire Sales Agreement, immediately in the event the Purchaser breaches the Sales Agreement and fails to rectify such breach within fifteen (15) calendar days from Our written notification to the Purchaser of the breach. Such notice shall not affect Our right to claim damages or any other economic compensation due to the Purchaser’s breach. Further, We reserve the right to immediately terminate and rescind an approved order, or the entire Sales Agreement, in the event that the Purchaser: (i) no longer conducts any of its business activities, (ii) suspends its payments, (iii) enters into liquidation or initiates reorganization, (iv) initiates negotiations with creditors on composition or (v) for any other reason may reasonably be deemed as insolvent.

11.2 Termination and rescission under this section shall not under any circumstances give rise to any obligation for Us to pay compensation to the Purchaser, and does not restrict Our possibility to claim damages or other economic compensation due to the event which justified Us to terminate the order or the Agreement.

11.3 The Purchaser understands and agrees that we will use his payment in order to purchase the necessary materials or pay workmanship required to fulfill his pre-order which will be non-refundable if cancelled. For this reason, the purchaser hereby gives us the right and agrees with our decision to decline any requests from him or third parties to cancel his pre-order.

Where the payment was made, is not the one the puts you and us on legal grounds, it is you agreeing to the terms and conditions BA has presented, prior to you purchasing your order.

The terms and conditions that was presented prior to you purchase, has the mutuality of obligation (consisting of offers and acceptance), we clearly defined the terms and considerations. If the said necessary factors or capacity and legal purpose had been lacking, don't you think we would still be here answering to your tickets? BA has presented and had clearly explained the causes of delay. Official emails, website news and updates, and even through our ticketing system, we have presented the issues, concerns and even accepted open opinions for help. Clearly BA has the right to prove to you that as a company we do exist and trying to resolve the problems that had been.

BA also acknowledges the right of its customers to air in written and in any form their dismay for the delay of their orders and services, however, customers should also be reminded that whatever a customer may say or do can also be taken against them and be pressed as Libel. We can take the verbal and written battery, but we also know where the line is, between us as a company and with our obligations to our customers. There is no proof that BA is a scam as we have proofs of delivery of customer's order and services, and yes, despite the presented circumstances, we gained loyal customers. We have proofs of contracts with our internal and external partners and reports of what and why there is a cause of necessary delays. All was well explained written and even verbal to all of the affected parties, and that includes our customers.

Mining equipment was never done to produce large amounts of Fiat or profit, but as a tool for Bitcoin enthusiasts, the device still serves it's purpose and can miner bitcoins, that is it's original purpose.

Also before purchasing any equipment/service, you must get familiar with product/service you are investing to, as we do not sell out of the shelf products. The purchase is classified as investment into development of new products. As any investment it involves risk.

However, if you experienced issues with our products we still provide RMA. Unfortunately development of miners are complex process and things not always go as planned, which we apologize for from our side. However we do not refuse to deliver product, or repair it as per agreement during purchase.

Unfortunately the Bitcoin mining market demand is very low and we have no hope of selling your machine to someone else. We see no other choice but to decline your refund as per clause 11.3 of our terms and conditions and honor your order as placed. We are sorry for any inconvenience this might have caused you.

As per Management, we cannot afford to send refunds as we've spent all money to purchase parts required to build the miners. If we cancel your order we have nothing to do with the cases, power supplies and other goods that have been manufactured just for your order.

We can only offer 50% compensation for the original hashing power purchased in hardware as previously offered and stated on our website; without going into bankruptcy and rendering our customers unable to receive products or compensation. Unfortunately we are unable to provide FIAT refunds.

Also, we can offer to ship you ASIC CHIPS instead and we can dispatch them immediately.
We exchange base on your order, 120 ASICs per 1 Prospero X3 or 7 ASICs per 1 Prospero X1.
We exchange 1 ASIC chip for each $45 you paid for the Cloud Hashing service.
Note that should you choose this option you are forfeiting the compensation previously announced.

Understanding your dismay due to the various causes of delay, but your refusal to receive your order will either lead to the destruction of your goods, or we might accept it as gift to us and send it to other customer. In any case, we will NOT issue you with any refund and our contract will be deemed as fulfilled. Please note, that we will refuse DHL to return your package. Should you choose to let DHL destroy it, that is your option; it is your merchandise, you can do whatever you want with it (as long it is for legal purposes only). If you want to give it to us as a gift, please let us know and we'll inform DHL to deliver to another customer. Warning: If you choose to take no action and your package will stay with DHL until they will destroy it.

However, should you wish to wait out, since we are now testing new hashboards in which we believe that we have solved the problem. As soon as tests are conclusive, we will resume immediately our assembly and dispatch process. Again we are deeply sorry for the inconvenience.

We would like to also introduce and offer our partner's hosting service in China. Our partner charges US$90/month for 1Thash of hosting and we can ship your machine directly to them. At the moment the contract is not available but we can send it to you as soon as we have it.

With the various options that we can offer, Kindly let us know what you prefer so we can proceed immediately, thank you.


Regards,
Black Arrow Team

Please note that all our sales, services and communications are subject to our terms and conditions and your reply to this email will be considered an agreement to our terms and conditions from this webpage: http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/legal.html

I just called and Matt asked me who it was and then I told him I would like to speak to their legal department. He then hung up on me and shut down his phone... now it's going to voicemail.

Minersource and Blackarrow are working together right?

Cause I am building a class action Lawsuit against them both for theft.

Daniel is a Director at blackarrow, he is another douchebag.

I sent a message to Alex last night and on facebook as well... if you guys want to see this alex guy, this is his facebook name : alexey.andreev.7 which is funny because daniel's facebook is daniel.andronic.77 weird similarities with the .7 and .77 ...lol... anyways I told him i was going to make his life miserable and i filed complaints with Germany, UK, Interpol and HK. and he replied this to me last night....

"
Dear Danny,

Please clarify on who's life you are planning to make miserable, and what does Interpol has to do with sales? Unfortunately support do not posses money you are claiming and at certain times anyone life is miserable enough, so why waste money on that? I am sure you know by yourself, what it means to feel miserable, only person with such great experience can write such an rich verbal content.

Regards Alexey A.

Regards,
Black Arrow Team
"
That sounds a lot like me not getting my money back... cause it's gone gone baby.

I had a little chat with Alexey A. from "Sales"
 
I told him that I had gotten German, UK, Hong Kong  and Interpol Authorities aware of their scam and that I would spend time and money making their lives miserable... This is the reply I got...
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Dear Danny,
Please clarify on who's life you are planning to make miserable, and what does Interpol has to do with sales? Unfortunately support do not possess money you are claiming and at certain times anyone life is miserable enough, so why waste money on that? I am sure you know by yourself, what it means to feel miserable, only person with such great experience can write such an rich verbal content.

Regards Alexey A.

Regards,
Black Arrow Team

They stole $12,000 from me and are ignoring me, I reported them to the police and government for fraud and theft. They obviously don't sell anything and take peoples money and keep them hanging on with promise of hardware. The Police have been communicating back and forth with me to collect extra evidence on the suspects.
 
I suggest everyone makes a police report ASAP. (Who ever got scammed of course)
 
Links:
Hong Kong police cyber crime department because their corps are in Hong Kong
https://secure1.info...er_crime_en.php
 
UK Action Fraud because their banking is in the UK
http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/
 
The names you should mention are  Daniel Andronic -> Facebook page -> https://www.facebook...iel.andronic.77
 
The bank information of black arrow is as follows:
Beneficiary company name: Destino LIMITED
Beneficiary company address: Edwards Place, 240 Kings Road, Reading, RG1 4NY, United Kingdom
Message to beneficiary: >>> fill in here your order number. For exampleOrder #3333 <<<
Beneficiary bank name: Metro Bank
Beneficiary bank address: 201 Broad Street Mall, Reading, RG 1 7QA, United Kingdom
Beneficiary country: United Kingdom
Swift code: MYMBGB2LXXX
Please select your preferred currency on our website in order to obtain the total amount of your order and pay to one of these accounts:
EUR Account Number: 13633018, Sort Code: 23-05-80, IBAN:GB31MYMB23058013633018
USD Account number: 13633045, Sort Code: 23-05-80, IBAN:GB78MYMB23058013633045
GBP Account Number: 13631317, Sort Code: 23-05-80, IBAN:GB77MYMB23058013631317

Check out Daniel's facebook profile.. Having all that fun with stolen money.

Blackarrow is a fucking scam, they stole $12,000 from me and i fucking reported them to all the authorities possible. Everyone that made orders got fucking scammed! No one is getting refunds and they are ignoring every request!

Stay the fuck away from this company they are fake and only take your money and stall you until you give up!

Anyone selling MRY, I am looking to buy a good quantity.

PM me or message here let me know thanks.

I just made a topic on this....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656265.0

I think it's time to call in the police of some sort.... They are clearly thieves and they need to be stopped


They are hosted in Germany this means Interpol can be involved. Their corp is in HK so it means they are hiding behind nominees... but there is 1 thing i know about nominees... At the first sign of trouble... They resign and run away.

I found this on the Hong Kong police website

Internet Commercial Fraud

Swindlers hide behind the anonymity of the internet to deceive victims by appearing to be a legitimate company to promote their bogus products or services.  Victims end up paying for goods or services that are non-existent, sub-standard or vastly overpriced. 

Such swindles are usually perpetrated by email and often include extravagant claims such as exclusive and profitable investment opportunities, luxurious gifts in return for small purchases, and ‘special’ or ‘time-limited’ offers urging the victims to act fast.


Seems pretty clear to me what Category BlackArrow falls into.

I will file here -> http://www.police.gov.hk/ppp_en/02_er_room/cif.html
I should not be the only one to do this.... Everyone should work together to take these $%I#@ to the cleaners... They give a very bad name to the industry.

So I officially believe that BlackArrow has pretty much stolen my money!!!

They keep ignoring me and when they do make contact it's a whole bunch of stall tactics.

Before any moderators boot me for talking shit on a company, I would like to let you know if have documented everything and if needed I will post it up here to backup my story.


I strongly believe that They don't even ship anything out.... Their business model is to make believe that they will ship you a product but in the end, all they do is TAKE your MONEY and STALL you until you can't ask for a REFUND.

They then keep hope alive by telling you that they will refund you but need to find a "Buyer" for the hardware you already purchased but that they "CAN'T" deliver yet... seems like all this makes no sense...

I sent them USD $12k on the 21st of Feb of this year (2014) and they told me, "Shipments will go out on the 30 of April".... As you can clearly guess.... This day never came and the replies got more and more "generic" and the response time because ridiculous.... 1-2 week response...

I then started smashing them on their own bitcoin discussion forum to get their attentions... Guess what? They responded withing an hour and threatened me. They said if I said anything else about that... They will put me at the bottom of the refund list!! (hanging $12k over my head)

Their actual response was:

"We find your behaviour unnaceptable and we would like to ask you to review it. If you will abuse or threaten us again, your refund will automatically go to the end of the refund queue or we will hold you to the agreed terms and conditions and ship you the order, as we see fit."

Now I don't know if I am able to show any of my communications with them cause they end each reply with:
Confidentiality Notice:
This communication, its content and any file attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential proprietary information. Access by any other party without the express written permission of the sender is unauthorised. If you have received this communication in error you may not copy, distribute or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender.

One thing I will post is the Topic they quickly took down from their own website because it was gaining traction.

Here it is.....


They killed the post very quickly and gave me warnings.

All I would like to say is I think they are a big scam and I am pretty sure that I have lost my money... No Hardware and stall tactics to get a refund that I fear will never come. Maybe They will transfer all the money in another corp and then will be impossible to make any claims... I also find it weird that some Russian called ALEXEY is handling the CS for this Hong Kong Company that is supposedly also run in HK... I say supposedly because I am 100% sure their HK corp is just a front with Nominees to take the fall should anything go down...

Has anyone ever received anything from BlackArrow? What do you all think is happening here...
Proof of purchase - >



Danny

Is there anywhere I can buy them like from an Exchange?

but if i setup an escrow deal I make the payment before I receive anything. Once I receive the coins they release the funds to a direct form of payment.

If someone really want's BTC, i can make a BTC -> MRY trasaction.

I am not opposed to it at all.

Anyone?

Hey Everyone, I am looking to buy some MRY for straight up cash.
If you want to sell your MRY, I am looking for anything amounting to over 50k MRY.
PM me or post it here... I am able to pay Via Paypal or Credit Card via Escrow.com

Thanks.

Dan.

Unfortunately I did not see your previous posts... So you are saying I am screwed and BlackArrow is just a scam?..

How do I know which batch I am ... Supposed to ship April 30.