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Your business model looks like the one from the underpants gnomes in southpark:
Step 1: Create Coin
Step 2: ? ? arr ? ?
Step 3: Profit!
Maybe you should rename it to Trollcoin (even if it's already taken because who cares right?!)! at least then people would have a good laugh reading the former thread... XD
The irony of you talking about this is hilarious on so many levels. In short, jog on. A little self humor never killed anybody  but too much can obviously kill a coin though! XD What is self humor? When you look in the mirror and laugh? You've added nothing productive to this whole thread and yet you still post. Go ahead and 'talk to your techs' (ie the people who might actually have a grasp on how any of this interwebs stuff really works), and when you've done so... do your 'PRE-ANN' which would appear to have been your gripe all along. Just don't call it PirateCoin, because, well, that IP is mine. Have a good launch. Arrr... this makes me sad... as our good friend Rodney Coin once said.... "Can't we all just get along?" I gotta say I admire your passion but unfortunately I think that Mr Rotch be right about the future of pirate coin. There's not much especially catchy about it. The theme, yes... the name.. not so much. Hate to see anyone waste time on a dead end but regardless, we gotta respect a man's conviction and just know that if ye change yer mind that we welcome that kind of fire over in Bootycoin's ship. |
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Well if that is a possibility then lets do something and get this coin going!
However, think about this... you say "sex sells" and sure it does but look at sexcoin that has already gone this route and there is no way another sex-type coin (IMO) will match it. That being said, the current network hashrate is only 140 MH/s and the coin is selling for 500 satoshi (with the same block reward as PIR). We could have attained this with PIR by itself if we had marketing done on the coin. So unless this booty guy has a better plan than the whole sexcoin community then I doubt it is going to do us any good to make this coin all about sex and kill any hope of professional investors. Maybe I'm short-sighted here but this is just how I see it.
I think you could be right that you are a little short-sighted here. Sexcoin hits you in the face for what it really is but bootycoin works more subliminal, like hank already pointed out and it has also the pirate theme in it. I think that's a great combo because you get a broader spectrum of uses for the coin and people. So i believe it's not that certain you can state sexcoin will never be matched. Besides he said he has a marketing plan and merchants on board...what more could one ask for? In my opinion if he really does go along with us we all would owe him big-time... How's it goin everyone? So one correction on Mike's comment here.... "Besides he said he has a marketing plan and merchants on board...what more could one ask for? " I do NOT currently have merchants on board but I've spoken with a couple and they're interested but want to know more. Like I said in another thread, other than my identity I'm all about full disclosure. I see that there's been a vote here and that currently the vote is in favor of a switch to BootyCoin. I've also seen some discussion about what that means, rename, reboot, etc. Listen mates, I'm a pragmatic pirate but I see a problem with the low coin count of Piratecoin. So we can make an adjustment to the existing piratecoin code to increase it and adjust some of the existing stakeholders as necessary. The other thing that needs to happen is a pool of coin that gets set aside for promotion and developer bounties/rewards. Look I know that the entire philosophy behind bitcoin has been equality, decentralization, etc. but the reality is that unless there's some form of leadership driving things forward things will languish. It's already hard enough to figure out what a justifiable angle is for a new alt-coin without the challenge of having little to no incentive for working on it. The angle here is the fun double entendre with it being both a pirate currency with a sex angle. The branding has been well received and everyone has seen the potential and agreed about the tongue in cheek branding vs. something blatant like sex or pirate coin. Plausible deniability is a wonderful marketing mechanism and causes people to share in order to show how clever they can be. That's fundamentally it. If you don't believe that's a potentially valuable angle that can be used to vault this coin into popularity then you fundamentally don't believe in it and that's fine. I may be wrong, you may be right. Wouldn't be the first nor the last time I'm wrong :-) That said, if this vote holds up and you guys want to rebrand I can put forth more details about what I see as needing to be done and am asking for help in crafting that list as well. The only way this is worth doing is if there can be the same level of enthusiasm generated for this coin as there was for doge. So there ya have it mates... what say ye? |
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Okay so it sounds like we need to:
1.) Change the logo back to what it was and do not have anything to do with The Pirate Party
2.) Change the Piratecoin abbreviation to ARR and get a new wallet compiled
3.) Get the new web site up and keep it up
4.) Get a blockchain explorer (if the original is still down)
5.) Decide together on how to promote and expose this coin to more people
6.) Find something good to be involved in with the coin (make it useful)
I personally do not like the idea of changing the whole name of the coin. I like Piratecoin better than Bootycoin and think it is a better choice. But I'm just one vote and the majority should rule.
I would just like to see some unity here and to get things running normally/smoothly like they were for a few weeks at least when this coin first came out. Then we can focus on getting bigger.
I agree, I think these are the best next steps. I really don't think keeping the name PirateCoin necessarily "endangers" us in being associated with the Pirate Party political movement. In fact, I think it's probably best we distance ourselves from them entirely - if they want their own coin, they can (and should) make it and manage it themselves using their already-established democratic process. I, too, had never heard of it until I read about it here. Must not be particularly popular in the U.S. Personally, I really dislike the idea of changing to Bootycoin. There is already a sexy-pirate-themed BootyCoin ( http://www.bootycoin.com). Hey there... that's the same bootycoin that's being proposed here so no worries about the collision. :-) |
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You put forward a convincing argument, I'll give you that.
Out of curiosity, are you a miner? Without premine bounties on offer how do you stand to gain from developing booty coin?
Howdy! My background is 18 years of developing software and startups... C, Java, Ruby, Javascript, etc. I'm new to bitcoin but not new to the entire libertarian point of view and the entire notion of how fiat currency is a scam, etc. I'm a reformed gold bug of sorts. I still think that having a place to store your hard earned money should exist but alas, in this world of financial alchemy there's not a single market left that is left to true price discovery but I digress.... I've been looking at bitcoin and alt coins more seriously since December after some guys I know sold their bitcoin related company and after getting to talking it seemed that the bitcoin community held some of the same beliefs as I have. For short hand I call it the zero hedge mentality (zerohedge.com) So to answer your question directly, no I'm not yet a miner. I have a fork of litecoin that I've rebranded to bootycoin and have that working on my laptop. As I said my focus was more on figuring out the branding and messaging to partners before the technology since the technology isn't the real differentiator here. And yes, a premine of some amount is needed in order to pull off some of the marketing plans and partnerships. At the end of the day people can cry scam all they want about pre mines and what not but as you so adeptly pointed out there needs to be an incentive to actually work on the coin, and the only thing I can see is, just like shares in a company, you set some aside that's used to compensate the team and used for marketing and business development. My time is valuable and if I'm going to spend it here it needs to be with some semblance of a promise for a reward in the future. Otherwise I'll go work on something else. In my few months of diving into this world I've seen lots of people decide to fork litecoin, rename it, and announce it here in these forums with really no amount of branding or planning at all. Just some dudes wasting lots of time building something that nobody's gonna care about. That's why when you look at the bootycoin site you see that what's there is a landing page that's focused on the differentiation which is the branding and the focus on merchants. If you get merchants on board you'll get the miners, period. I guess you truly have no way of knowing if I'm just another scammer or not, especially as my identity is hidden here, mostly because of the nature of the coin and not wanting to attach myself to an adult focused coin (if that's how it ends up going), just yet. Once it's successful then of course I'd be more open to revealing my true identity. Regardless I can tell you that I'm in the bay area (California), work in tech, am not hurting for money, and don't really need to do this project. I just happened to own the domain from a different failed experiment last summer and thought it'd be fun to launch a coin called bootycoin and immediately saw the potential for it to be a real thing. For you guys, and anyone that wants to be part of the community I can tell you that other than my identity I'm all about transparency. I simply can't help it given my libertarian and gold bug leanings. I'm a modern day Robin Hood of sorts that would love nothing more than to stick it to the establishment rent seekers and rejoice in justice. My thoughts around how this currency should work is that you want a large number of coins like doge.. 69B is the first target (see what I did there?).. but with a little inflation 1-2% so as to encourage spending. There needs to be a way for everyone to easily gain access to receiving and spending the coin. So web wallets but perhaps with client side encryption like blockchain.info's wallets. A Twitter tip bot (@btybot... BTY is the symbol I picked) so that you can easily send and receive booty without being a techie. There needs to be an easy way for merchants to accept it and easily convert it to bitcoin but also with additional features that are enumerated on the site right now. I'd really like to investigate a way to make this CPU mineable so that it's accessible to everyone and open the door for javascript miners. Vertcoin seems like maybe a good coin to model for that, I dunno. Look at the end of the day this is an experiment, like bitcoin itself really. The only way to differentiate at this point is to come up with a new technology or have a great marketing angle. There's the opportunity to do both here if we were to copy something like vertcoin and combine it with a great marketing angle like bootycoin. That's the hypothesis. Who's on board to see if that can be reality? :-) |
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There is no trademark or other intellectual property claim to the word or concept of "Pirate".
"Pirate", as it's universally understood, outside of a movement that, pardon me saying, is relatively obscure even in the countries that recognize the party, has nothing to do with politics. In the USA and worldwide, amongst 98%+ of the population, the term Pirate is more of a theatrical/historical concept that is widely appealing.
"Booty Coin" with its sexual connotations would severely limit the potential market.
I strongly advise keeping PirateCoin as it is and removing any connection to the political party. That's my vote.
Start Booty Coin if you want, they can complement each other.
But PirateCoin can stand alone, without any connection to anything other than the "Ahoy, Matey!" image that it conjures up to the vast majority of people on the planet.
Exactly, changing the name to bootycoin basically makes it a new coin with new intentions. When I think of pirate, I think of arrgh, ahoy there mateys! Never heard of pirate party until it appeared in this thread. Guarantee 99+% of people think of ships, beards, parrots, cannons, rum, treasure, etc when they hear the word pirate. When I started the pool for this coin, I wasn't thinking about fat bouncing asses. Keep it about pirates please. On a side note, I do enjoy fat bouncing asses. Ahoy ya scurvy dogs! There be nothin' preventin' Bootycoin from bein' a coin that's used for anything pirate related. It's what we pirates like to call a double entendre, which is something that instantly opens up tons of possibilities. If the pirate bay had a coin would it sound better if they had "pirate bay coin" or bootycoin? A pirate's treasure is booty, period. Any self respecting pirate seeks booty, spends it, trades in it... period. Just so happens that in the last 30 years a second definition of the word has appeared which also happens to fit quite well for a crypto currency. I have plans for distribution that will make this thing go viral because of the fun nature. People *love* double entendres, especially ones related to sex. Just like sexcoin there's nothing inherently interesting or viral about a coin so obviously named "piratecoin". As far as fat bouncing asses and such there can be adult.bootycoin.com and just plain old bootycoin.com where it's general purpose pirate. Honestly we really don't know who would be interested in taking part. But that's part of the fun. The branding can all be tongue in cheek bootycoin with plain old pirates but you can toe the line of sex with it if you like. Just how Disney hides sexual innuendo in their films for adults that caters to kids. Look, I'm an entrepreneur at the core and I'm looking for opportunity. I simply don't see the greater opportunity in something called piratecoin. It's stale, predictable, and doesn't lend itself to spreading. Why was doge successful? Because it was fun. Now that's just a stupid meme that will be dead in a year and people will tire of that coin. Sex never gets old and neither does pirate speak apparently. I was contacted about possibly merging Bootycoin with the Piratecoin community and honestly I think it's a great idea. But there has to be a recognition that bootycoin is actually a superior branding for a pirate themed crypto coin or else there's really no way to move forward I guess. Please don't take this as me saying that my idea or coin is better than yours, as I said I just look at what's possible and I just don't see the mass market potential for Piratecoin for the aforementioned reasons. Now, I put forth the offer to the Piratecoin community to join up and realize the enormous potential in the branding with this coin. I've already been in contact with adult site owners that like the idea and are looking to get involved. I've also spoken with an investment team that helps alts launch and evaluates them and they think that there's real potential for this to be the first mainstream alt coin. That said there's a ton of work to do and a community needs to be built to truly support it. I've focused on the branding part of it and reaching out to partners because simply forking litecoin, throwing it out there with a new name and no branding, is simply not interesting at all. There has to be something unique about it, and here it's all about the double entendre and sex angle. People love plausible deniability and this coin gives you that. Send a little booty to that cutie that you have your eye on. "What, it's just pirate related coin? What's the big deal?" But the subtlety of sex is there. So I leave it up to you guys. I'm going to press on with or without you, but I'd rather have you scurvy dogs on board because you've shown the same passion for the theme and I think if you really look at the true potential and think about it you'll see what I'm talking about. So what say ye... ya scurvy dogs? Arrrrr :-) |
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Ya like pirates? Ya like sex? Tired of talkin' like a doge and ready to start talkin' like a pirate instead? We thought so. Avast ye coin grubbin' alt coin scum! We be workin' on launchin' the cheekiest alt coin yet... BootyCoin! Details to come (69B total coins with mild inflation and some premine is planned) but you can see more here ya scurvy dog: http://www.bootycoin.com  We be workin' with merchants and distribution channels first to ensure this premium coin be gettin' the attention it deserves over all these other boring land lubber alt coins. We'll be updatin' with more info here and bounties.. arrr.... if ye be interested in takin' part (marketing, engineering, biz dev) get in touch. We be working on finalizing the clients for linux, windows, and mac and will announce more when we're good and ready! So check us out and get some... arrr! |
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Arrr... cept for the fact that BootyCoin be a better name for a coin with more uses... Check it out matey.. http://bootycoin.com |
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