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So the Electrum wallet will follow segwit2x?
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I'm not a fan of ClownSpiders approach, but I'm also experiencing the same thing with Bitcoin Classic. It seems like every time I try to move my BTC to a new wallet the BCH follows it, and I can't seem to separate the two. I'm now stuck with transactions with no confirmations and two empty wallets. I'm hoping things cancel out and I'll try moving the BCH first instead of the BTC to see what happens.
To be clear, I used Bitcoin Core for my wallet, and loaded that wallet into Bitcoin Classic after moving my Core wallet funds to a new wallet, and the Core fund changes appeared in the Classic wallet transactions. I now have a mess on my hands, and am hoping things clear up, but what he is saying is actually happening.
Thank you Malykii. When they start telling you that you are stupid, and start throwing in "cross burning" and "fake news" comments, you'll understand my approach with these charming children. Out of curiosity, do your Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash clients point to the SAME data folder, because they shouldn't. Which part is the data folder, the chain folder or the folder named Bitcoin? I have two Bitcoin folders, one for each wallet, and one chain folder. Is that my problem? I didn't expect to have to download two separate chains. |
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I'm not affiliated with the clown person in any way, and I don't have any desire to discuss Trump. I'm just saying I'm also experiencing the same thing where the cash coins are following the BTC coins when I move them. I'm just having a tough time separating them. I'm not trying to get caught up with all the drama he's mentioning. I tried to move them too many times now, and I have both coins stuck in unconfirmed status, and wanted to just mention that this is something that is an actual issue, and wanted to try and convey that in a better method than him / her. That's all.
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I'm not a fan of ClownSpiders approach, but I'm also experiencing the same thing with Bitcoin Classic. It seems like every time I try to move my BTC to a new wallet the BCH follows it, and I can't seem to separate the two. I'm now stuck with transactions with no confirmations and two empty wallets. I'm hoping things cancel out and I'll try moving the BCH first instead of the BTC to see what happens.
To be clear, I used Bitcoin Core for my wallet, and loaded that wallet into Bitcoin Classic after moving my Core wallet funds to a new wallet, and the Core fund changes appeared in the Classic wallet transactions. I now have a mess on my hands, and am hoping things clear up, but what he is saying is actually happening.
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I'm also trying to wrap my head around it, and this is how I perceive it so far. So the chain splits, and I have a wallet.dat file with 1 coin in it. Would I then use a new program to open that wallet.dat file for the BCC coin, and use in my case Bitcoin Core for my original BTC, with the end result 1 BTC in the new BCC wallet program, and the original 1 BTC in Bitcoin Core?
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What I don't get is if they were really trying to hide the stolen coin, why not throw mixers in there at some point? This is just them passing the coin from exchange to exchange.
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Ha, this thread is amazing. I don't get what the big deal is. If you have ever actually been in a serious relationship, or have played the scene (bar nights / dates trying to either get laid, or continue said laying ), then you would know the concept of paying for a quick lay isn't that bad of an idea. I'm not saying go to some shop in an alley, but there are options that are a lot easier than most think.
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Gilbert Fiorentino, 54, and Carl Fiorentino, 57, both of Coral Gables, Florida, were sentenced yesterday in Federal Court in the Southern District of Florida, in connection with their participation in an illegal scheme to obtain more than $11 million dollars in kickbacks and other benefits, and to conceal this illicit income from the IRS, while employed as senior executives at Systemax, Inc. (“Systemax”) and its subsidiary, TigerDirect, Inc. (“TigerDirect”). Carl Fiorentino was sentenced to 80 months’ imprisonment. Gilbert Fiorentino was sentenced to 60 months’ imprisonment. A hearing to determine the remaining amount of restitution owed to Systemax by the defendants, who are brothers, has been scheduled for April 3, 2015. The IRS definitely doesn't like it when they don't get their cut. |
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One of the first users of Bitcoin? LOL
He was never around before December 2010. As an example, sirius started using Bitcoin in November 2009,
Theymos started using Bitcoin in February 2010, knightmb, mizerydearia, Syke and MoonShadow were using Bitcoin from July 2010 and there's about 100 people that were working on Bitcoin when he showed up. He was relatively late to the party. The fool makes it sound like he invented Bitcoin. ROFL
I agree, this description of Hearn's has other misdirections and falsehoods. The pioneers of smart contracts were obviously Nick Szabo, for theoretical basis, and the first working prototype smart contracts platform was fellowtraveller's Open-Transactions and then Ethereum ... Lighthouse was definitely after these, and is too limited to be referred to as a "smart contracts pioneer". Lighthouse? As in the level 3 competitor? |
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Interesting. So it is potentially possible that BitPay never gets that transaction, and I receive what I purchased for free.
Yes, but the merchant should never ship their products without having at least 1 confirmation. Though thats not how bitpay works. They only wait until they see the transaction and they have huge turnovers. I wonder two what will happen. They will have huge amounts of coins that dont reach at the moment. My transactions still have no confirmations, and nothing has been communicated to me from the merchant or BitPay. I am going on almost 36 hours since the initial transaction happened. Transactions have cleared, and my wallet is empty. I didn't try any double spend technique during this time, and it took around 48 hours to complete the transaction. |
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Interesting. So it is potentially possible that BitPay never gets that transaction, and I receive what I purchased for free.
Yes, but the merchant should never ship their products without having at least 1 confirmation. Though thats not how bitpay works. They only wait until they see the transaction and they have huge turnovers. I wonder two what will happen. They will have huge amounts of coins that dont reach at the moment. My transactions still have no confirmations, and nothing has been communicated to me from the merchant or BitPay. I am going on almost 36 hours since the initial transaction happened. |
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When you delete a transaction from your wallet, doesn't mean the other nodes will delete it. Right?
Does Replace-By-Fee mean that you can replace the output-address? If so, then this "feature" just seriously breaks Bitcoin.
That is why a transaction is not a real transaction until it has at least one confirmation (is included into a block). Before then, it is just a transaction "candidate"... Merchants should never ship products before getting at least one confirmation. In my case of having a merchant use BitPay I was just provided an address to send BTC, and once it reached the requested amount I received a receipt from the merchant saying I was all set. It was a paid service, so my access has already been updated for what I paid for, and I am guessing if the transaction just doesn't go through BitPay will be out of luck. |
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I am not sure if this has been said in this thread, and it seems to be a lot of back and forth from the pages I read, so I figured I would just ask.
If I sent a transaction and didn't set the fee high enough, will the transaction eventually roll back? The BTC have left my wallet at this point, and it was for a paid service, so I am wondering if I have to worry about the transaction not going through.
It was through BitPay, so the vendor got their money I am sure, but I didn't know if the transaction itself would revert back because of the backlog.
The BTC has not really left your wallet until the transaction is included in a block (confirmed). It means you can 'override' your transaction, but it depends on your client. Which client can "override" a transaction aka double spend it? How do they trick the nodes, that just won't accept a double spend in their mempool? You can create a double spend with Bitcoin Core using console commands. Also, since some nodes won't relay or accept transactions with low fees, changing the fee get the double spend accepted into some mempools when the original did not. Otherwise, nodes that enabled Replace-By-Fee will allow double spends as long as the fee is greater than the original and nodes that are Bitcoin XT will relay double spends. Say I don't go the double spend route. Will the low fee transaction be cleared out the of the mempool at some point, or will it just eventually get processed? At some point, the network will "forget" you transaction. You just need to either delete it from your wallet or not run your client for a few days. It will be as if the transaction never happened. Interesting. So it is potentially possible that BitPay never gets that transaction, and I receive what I purchased for free. |
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I am not sure if this has been said in this thread, and it seems to be a lot of back and forth from the pages I read, so I figured I would just ask.
If I sent a transaction and didn't set the fee high enough, will the transaction eventually roll back? The BTC have left my wallet at this point, and it was for a paid service, so I am wondering if I have to worry about the transaction not going through.
It was through BitPay, so the vendor got their money I am sure, but I didn't know if the transaction itself would revert back because of the backlog.
The BTC has not really left your wallet until the transaction is included in a block (confirmed). It means you can 'override' your transaction, but it depends on your client. Which client can "override" a transaction aka double spend it? How do they trick the nodes, that just won't accept a double spend in their mempool? You can create a double spend with Bitcoin Core using console commands. Also, since some nodes won't relay or accept transactions with low fees, changing the fee get the double spend accepted into some mempools when the original did not. Otherwise, nodes that enabled Replace-By-Fee will allow double spends as long as the fee is greater than the original and nodes that are Bitcoin XT will relay double spends. Say I don't go the double spend route. Will the low fee transaction be cleared out the of the mempool at some point, or will it just eventually get processed? |
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I am not sure if this has been said in this thread, and it seems to be a lot of back and forth from the pages I read, so I figured I would just ask.
If I sent a transaction and didn't set the fee high enough, will the transaction eventually roll back? The BTC have left my wallet at this point, and it was for a paid service, so I am wondering if I have to worry about the transaction not going through.
It was through BitPay, so the vendor got their money I am sure, but I didn't know if the transaction itself would revert back because of the backlog.
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Its the database that attorneys use to find out court cases etc. might be called pacer, maybe not. if you have access to this, please contact me...
There is a court website called Pacer. Shoot me a PM for what you are looking to find out. I have access to that website. |
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I would eat a crappy chicken sandwich sand fries from them to support this if it happens. I know people say this drives the market down, but long term this is turning into a legit alternative currency option.
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I haven't heard of Buttercoin either, but I would suggest checking Circle out. I have used Coinbase, and Circle is much easier and faster.
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C'mon, that was pretty funny.
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They are definitely targeting businesses, and not people. I guess build it, and the people will follow type mentality?
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