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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: April 01, 2020, 08:30:38 AM
Thank you wanna_be,
we appreciate your words.

Quick update:
regarding to health security precautions, the hired developer company had to stop their work until the next week (may be extended).
We believe you are all fine and wish you all the best.
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bitherium.cc not a full decentralized exchange - PrivKey leaks on: February 28, 2020, 08:23:43 PM
We will explain it once more now. In our test phase we sent the private key to the backend to check it (through web3.js) if is valid or not. And because we had no encryption at the time, this event occurred. We presented everything transparently and above all we changed all what you wanted.
Exactly. You were sending it to your backend. Like I said, if you were only checking if its valid or saving them, it's not up for me to say. A DEX would not need any of these to reach the backend after all.

But your answer was:
The fact is that you could see your own private key but only in your own browser - in your session. You were just faster than we were. Now we implemented encryption.
The accusations that the privatekey is read by users completely invented. This screenshot only shows that the user can see his own private key in his own browser session!
The bolded part is a lie. If it reached your backend, you could supposedly have seen it all and saved them. If you admitted it was sent to the backend, then how is it only on the browser session? Again, if you saved or not, we can't know. But you COULD have been saving them. That's the point of OP's thread.

We would not say "lie" but "not true". Yes, that was the first reaction (of social media manager) we thought is right, we should have examine it at first.
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bitherium.cc not a full decentralized exchange - PrivKey leaks on: February 28, 2020, 07:58:31 PM
As we told you before, our exchange is in the test phase. Some things have not been checked yet or implemented. The fact is that you could see your own private key but only in your own browser - in your session. You were just faster than we were. Now we implemented encryption.
That's a lie. The page was sending a POST request with the private-key and its password in plain-text to your server.

If you saved the private-key or not, that's something we can not confirm since it was handled by your server, and we do not have access to it. But saving it was as simple as taking the body data from the request and saving them anywhere you wanted. So it was definitely possible. Do not lie saying this data was handled in the client, on his own browser, because it was NOT.

We will explain it once more now. In our test phase we sent the private key to the backend to check it (through web3.js) if is valid or not. And because we had no encryption at the time, this event occurred. We presented everything transparently and above all we changed all what you wanted.
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bitherium.cc not a full decentralized exchange - PrivKey leaks on: February 28, 2020, 07:24:22 PM
I can understand that the platform is in a beta stage.

No DEX wallet needs anyway to send your private keys to the server, even for a check. That's a major failure, or a scam attempt.
Plenty libs exists to handle that client side though Javascript (eg. https://github.com/nakov/client-side-ethereum-wallet).

If you show honesty and fix that issue, I'll remove my complaint.

Hello Mallyx,

As we told you before, our exchange is in the test phase. Some things have not been checked yet or implemented. The fact is that you could see your own private key but only in your own browser - in your session. You were just faster than we were. Now we implemented encryption.

The other thing is that you accused us of collecting / storing private keys. There is a difference between checking in in the backend or frontend and saving a private key. A private keys was never stored. We can assure you of that. We evaluated all bitcointalk feedback in the past few days and our developers had to answer questions and provide evidence. I would also like to thank you for your indirect help. Based on your campaign, we checked again if the availability of log in with private keys makes sense for users. And after lot of talks we decided to turn it off regardless of whether the validation in the front end is carried out via web3.js and thus externally. Instead of that option we are working to ensure that the user can soon log in with their Ledger hardware wallet.

For security reasons, we also decided that the users be only able to create their wallets externally, to dispel any doubts. Another note for you. Before we open our exchange for trading, the code will be checked by 2 independent companies.

If you have any further comments or concerns, please let us know at info@bitherium.cc or join our telegram channel and we can talk more about the project.

-The Bitherium team



5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bitherium.cc not a full decentralized exchange - PrivKey leaks on: February 27, 2020, 06:49:22 PM
Here he is with his feelings hurt now....oh poor little clown worried about imagined evil 'campaign' against their circus.
It would also be good to learn proper English language when you write, but it will not help you.

Thank you very much for your non constructive and totally useless post. Your words are saying much more about you now.
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bitherium.cc not a full decentralized exchange - PrivKey leaks on: February 27, 2020, 05:08:44 PM
Hello Bitcointalk,


It took a little longer because we had to reconstruct and evaluate things first.

To the allegations

We never have and will never collect or keep private keys from wallets.

Some users seem to be trying hard to spread fud, thanks for that.
However, we do not accept any dubious offers from you to receive positive fake posts here in Bitcointalk. We are a hard working project. We do not need this and will not respond to your offers.

If we were Scammers, we wouldn't program Dex. We would also not be transparent in our external communication. All accusations are nothing more than accusations and defamations

We are completely in the development phase. Deposits and withdrawals are deactivated.

Here you can see that we are working on the development of our smart contract (which is not yet finished): https://ropsten.etherscan.io/address/0x8b1c480428038e93f9e99fc9e34194a5f4c1fc60#code

The accusations that the privatekey is read by users completely invented. This screenshot only shows that the user can see his own private key in his own browser session!

Here is a report from our developer team:





The consequences:

We will immediately end the ability to create wallets directly about our exchange. We will add a link to MyEtherWallet with a note on creating a Keystore wallet.

Now we are on the next topic
We immediately end the possibility that the user can log in to us with his private key. It only works with the metamask, Keystore file and we will work on it to connect to the general ledger.

Thanks a lot for this organized, negative campaign it made sure that we will make bitherium even safer.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: February 26, 2020, 06:58:00 PM
Why the user's private keys are sent to your server ?

Hello Malyx, thank you for your question.
You can use your private key, keystore file, metamask  to log into our exchange, just like every decentralized exchange offers this login, similar to myetherwallet. We can't collecting or saving anything from this details.

That's not true. Private keys are sent to the server, then you use a token to identify the user. So you store them:

Hello Mallyx,
we really appreciate your post. Our hired developer company got questions about security and we will inform you as soon as possible. If dev company have created any security issues we will publish their name immediately. For now it looking like the users can see their own private keys only in their own web browser and the exchange only authorize them. Don't forget our exchange is in development mode and not ready for using. Also if you are able to contact us about this, we will appreciate your help.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: February 26, 2020, 04:14:24 PM
Why the user's private keys are sent to your server ?

Hello Malyx, thank you for your question.
You can use your private key, keystore file, metamask  to log into our exchange, just like every decentralized exchange offers this login, similar to myetherwallet. We can't collecting or saving anything from this details.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: February 26, 2020, 02:17:31 PM
These guys are legit! They worked with me to get a problem solved in the transfer, and I received my tokens as promised. I'm looking forward to using their platform.
it's good that you find them ligit as your investment are truly furnished and you are getting every support from developers. Good luck.

Hello Mankuk,
you can also follow the development of the exchange at any time in our telegram channel: https://t.me/bitherium_cc
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: February 24, 2020, 07:33:21 PM
These guys are legit! They worked with me to get a problem solved in the transfer, and I received my tokens as promised. I'm looking forward to using their platform.

Thank you Hossimo, but an account created today is not very sure.

Hossimo is new user on bitcointalk, but he is also our new investor. We are glad that he leave here his personal experience regarding to conversation with us and buying of tokens. Keep on mind that we are not writing reviews through new accounts, if you have any doubts, feel free to contact Hossimo on our Telegram channel.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: February 24, 2020, 01:26:00 PM
These guys are legit! They worked with me to get a problem solved in the transfer, and I received my tokens as promised. I'm looking forward to using their platform.

Hello dear Hossimo,
thank you for your kind words, welcome to Bitherium and feel free to join our Telegram channel, where we can help or answer your questions directly and faster in the future Smiley
https://t.me/bitherium_cc
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: February 24, 2020, 11:39:02 AM
Quote from: CaVO32
your FAQ section on your website is empty? please add the general items asked by your clients as a decentralized exchange. also, what are your criteria to list a token? i hope you have a good list of requirements before a particular token is listed on your dex. in that way, you will avoid a clutter of worthless tokens later on. because to be honest, most DEXs have a lot of crap tokens that are not giving any value to the exchange, the reason why most of them have very low volume and so they will exit earlier than planned.

Hello CaVO32,
at first thank you very much for your proposals. Our FAQ section will be done before we start operations. We are still working on more important things, so we chosed to answering questions on our TG channel or directly here meanwhile the FAQ page being done. Regarding to tokens which we will list you are right. We would like to list project tokens only which are high potential, at now we chosed few for initial view.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: February 21, 2020, 04:29:26 PM
Want to say thanks to Bitherium team. I got my coin within few mins after send to deposit address. I'm very excited to be part of Decentralize exchange. I believe all good exchange should be Decentralize with full honest and transparency of profit sharing. Seen the news not too long ago Binance made like 1Billion! in 2019, I have feeling its gonna be amazing profit sharing for all of us with what you guys building.

Cheers!
Thank you very much for your kind words Smiley So everything working well, thank you for the feedback.


Welcome to Bitherium
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: February 21, 2020, 04:18:56 PM
Ok, this appears to be a  good project, so, how this DEX set itslef apart from other DEX, if we take into acocunt that other DEX are already knwon, proven to be secured, and used by thousands, this must offer something different to be succesful, if not, then i rather just use IDEX; nowp the second question, it says in the announcement that there will be an Airdrop, but there is no information of that.
Hello Voltaje,
thank you for your constructive contribution.
Our public-hidden ace is profit share, user friendly interface and all advantages of a CEX but in core a full Dex. We don't know any other exchange with share of 50% profit. We bet on that BTH holders will love ETH incomes based of net profit. Also lot of DEX exchanges are not 100% decentralized which may appear in any security issue. Additionaly competition stimulates business, after our official launch you will be able to try our platform with all features, then you will be the one who decide if is good to stay or look for another exchange Smiley Regarding to Airdrop, yes we are aiming for that, but at first we have to complete our exchange. All informations about Airdrop will be announced at the right time.

Little security comparsion for you:
Hotbit CEX: https://observatory.mozilla.org/analyze/hotbit.io
Binance DEX: https://observatory.mozilla.org/analyze/binance.org
Bitherium DEX: https://observatory.mozilla.org/analyze/dex.bitherium.cc

Thank you for your interest in Bitherium.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: February 21, 2020, 01:00:26 PM
You again avoid to answer WHO ARE CREATORS of this exchange.

Company address from Seychelle means nothing, and 'founder' holds a big amount of premined tokens.
Right at least we have to know the people behind the exchange.
Hello dear mankuk0007,
All what you have to know stands in the Announcement. If you are really interested in knowing something about us come to the TG channel and we can have a serious talk. You wrote "we have to know", are you talking for the whole bitcointalk community? Smiley We have a lot people which already invested in Bitherium and the project was at beggining.

Thanks for your interest in Bitherium
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: February 21, 2020, 11:36:45 AM
You again avoid to answer WHO ARE CREATORS of this exchange.

Company address from Seychelle means nothing, and 'founder' holds a big amount of premined tokens.
No, it seems like are not able to understand why we are not publishing any names. It is stated in our announcement and also in two replies. 99% of all ICO companies have their team members published and they are still scam. We have almost full developed product after 9 months of work and everyone is now able to make own walk through our DEX. Please do not spread fud about our project. We have now explained everything in a friendly manner if you don't accept that, better solution is avoid of this thread.

In our certificate you can see a company number, if you are interested in that who is in charge of the company, do a query at a competent authority.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: February 21, 2020, 10:21:47 AM
Sure I can correct myself, and ask again who are creators of this suspicious project?

Please prove that this is true decentralized exchange.
I am eager and waiting, but so far I only see no-volume.
I am also want to know whether this is decentralized exchange or not.

YES Bitherium is a decentralidzed Exchange Smiley All trading operations are done directly in the smart contract.
That means only you can deposit and withdraw your assets as well as buy and sell them.
Neither Bitherium itself or another person has access to it.
But once again, the exchange is still in beta.

If you have any questions you are welcome to visit our TG channel:
https://t.me/bitherium_cc
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: February 21, 2020, 10:02:04 AM
Sure I can correct myself, and ask again who are creators of this suspicious project?

Please prove that this is true decentralized exchange.
I am eager and waiting, but so far I only see no-volume.

As we stated before we have taken all precautions to protect our users and ourselves.
What we can share with you is that the creator of our project is Bitherium CC Ltd. company.
Our company address is: Bitherium CC Ltd., Suite 10, 3rd Floor, La Ciotat, Mt. Fleuri, Mahe, Seychelles
The Certificate of Incorporation: Above in Announcement

19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: February 20, 2020, 06:56:57 PM
Who is the team and team members behind this scam?
Thank you for your contribution, but you did bad research.

The project has been under development for 9 months. And so that it remains decentralized and cannot be regulated.
We have taken all precautions to protect our users and ourselves.

Before you make such accusations you should think about it beforehand.

We also do not know any fraudsters who develop a decentralized exchange and have the project powered by a registrated company.

If you want to clarify any other things, feel free to contact us directly in our telegram channel: https://t.me/bitherium_cc
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitherium.cc - Full Decentralized Exchange with Profit share token on: February 20, 2020, 03:05:58 PM
how many tokens this exchange will support and how would you provide decentralization? I dont think we can have decentralization in crypto exchange.

Hello Amber332,
thank you for your questions. Bitherium DEX is able to list all of ERC20 tokens. All listed tokens which we are operate with you can see on our site.
Decentralization is solved through smart contract, if you will have any other questions feel free to contact us on telegram and we can talk more Smiley
https://t.me/bitherium_cc
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