you can check the "odds/probability" ratio for yourself and what he wrote is not so impossible (we are 60% vs 80%).
I have found at least 1 group of people able to achieve that results in "long term"... not easy... but not impossible....

it is very curious that OP says he can win "simulated" matches... anyone who knows this series of events knows very well that something like this is practically impossible! It's like "guess what number I am thinking..."...

OP could have presented this site with an account without red trusts (I deliberately ignored it) but in any case, adding "buzzwords", impossible claims, lack of any objective proof are clear signs that something doesn't match...

I don't blame you for reply like this, but it's obvious you are not into sports betting at all. Each bookmaker has a percentage of players who make profit. My ROI on sports betting is 20-25% long term. You cannot expect every player to gamble and lose money, to bet in the Premiership, Bundesliga and other big-market leagues where the odds are quite correct. So you had something to offer, your odds are the same as in other places, and someone had bet on that event. You accepted the bet. You guarantee that you will pay him if his bet wins. The basic postulate of sports betting.

Each value bettor relies on his deep knowledge of a certain league, where he is sure that he knows better than the trader which odds are correct. As a bookmaker, you have many different ways to stop him - you can refuse his bet, reduce his bet, limit to max. a bet of 1€ but cancelling bets after the outcome is known just because the bet is winning is at least a serious crime.

I think it is very important that other users get involved in this topic, and that they keep in mind what they can expect from this provider.

What casinos allow US players to play on and ask for KYC for register and for withdraw?


What about US players but they are abroad?

The first thing a gambler should do is to read through the terms and conditions of the casino and also be able to understand them at all times, be for you even make an account on such a casino,  and this is what most casino users don't understand,  some of them just go ahead with account creation even though they have not properly read and understand the terms and conditions of the service and how the level of their KYC have been.

Before accepting the term of service of the casino we must first of all be willing to hand out our documents for verifications because this is the most important stage that always gets gamblers stock at some point if they don't understand what really is happening.

These types of things are quite nice to know and apply, I personally think like you and in fact I have applied it, I have very few casinos in which I have fulfilled my KYC, they are the most reliable casinos, the ones with the most reputation and those who have more options to win for sure, because there are many places where you basically have a lot to win and to do the KYC I don't think it's something reliable, I'm sure that Many people stick to that, but as well There are others who don't comply with KYC because they don't like it , which I very much agree with , and then they come across the problem that when they have to do more KYC when it comes to checking it is quite annoying , that's what I've always said. That said , you are not allowed to do this type of thing like this on the Part of the casinos.

There are many who have to do things in the casinos and realize that the most important thing for them is the time in which they want and can make the withdrawals, and there is nothing more stressful that cannot be done because the KYC has to be done , and Everything would be excellent if everything is done and confirmed Correctly after sending the documents, something like what some brokers do, the bad thing begins when that is not respected and then it begins to take more than 2 days, because if the person needs the money already? When the deposit is made, it is Immediate, so what is expected is that the withdrawals can be made immediately, because the casino may consider that yes, the requirement is needed and everything, but an opinion must also be placed on the side of the gambler and please him, because it is a way of doing things better, and thus the person is satisfied with the treatment of the casino, because I return and repeat , when things are about money, very few people have the patience to put up with those things , and Because it's not about money, many change, others turn because it is their money and other People's money or other People's money must be given at once , that is normal.

I did the KYC and passed and doing their additional security check. I did multiple KYC's in the past. But not as slow as FJ. Hmm I hope that's not true.

Just inquiring about Fortune Jack, This is my first winning and the only reviews I can find are angry reviews here. Positive reviews are rarely done in my opinion.

What is the deal with KYC and Fortune Jack - I did the KYC and now they're doing a security check. I asked support what are the KYC requirements and they will send it if it is required. I would've done the KYC prior to me playing.

I know that they have been in the industry for a long time, but I have played with other crypto sites and it has been a positive experience and support was helpful.

Have I been scammed?

over the last decade i have used around 150 different bookmakers. the last 2 years i focused more on „crypto“ bookmakers, but there are not much for hard punters who need more than mainstream leagues.

stake is quite serious and easy to handle, but low choice of markets, also on big leagues. you are able to bet high amounts on mainstream, but low leagues you also receive very hard limits.

sportsbet.io is very good, and offer a wide range on games/leagues, but as usual you receive fast limits

all bookies with betby software like coinsgame,bc, rollbit, betfury have a wide range on games, but for example coins offers more than rollbit, although same software. limits will be fast

betflip uses a nice software with very wide range, like gamdom, but 1k is maximum you can win

wolf and bitsler seems also very serious but low amount of games, wolf very low

betcoin i think also changes software within the last year, do not like it

nitrobetting and nitrogames are nice and good limits at the beginning, but i had issues there when me and some friends bet the same games. so we got restricted accounts. at the end everything was payed out. in my opinion this bookies could be really cool, but i do not see much improvement from software site over the last year

then there are a bunch of bookies using software i think called upgaming…. very big range of games, markets…. but also fast limits

many softbooks which are able to pay with cryptos but also fiat, i do not want to mention ,cause this would be to long

all in all ím really not satisfied right now, ím waiting for another sportsbet account but most of the time i use local bookies with fiat and sportsmarket with crypto….. cause not a single bookie will beat the quality of a bet365 :=

Gambler would really be just that only be checking out those terms and conditions on the time that they would really be experiencing some problems on which they might have been able to
completely avoid it out if they had really just that put up some time for them to read up those terms and able to save up their @ss on such potential problem. There would really be some exemptions
on such situation basing up on the reputation of a certain casino.If you've been dealing on a new site or havent established reputation then dont get shocked if you have dealt with a scammy one
but if you are really that dealing with an old and reputable or known one then expect that you dont really have a fight for that once they would be throwing those violations
that you had committed.

KYC? Sounds to be standard nowadays although it wont be necessary or on point but once you do able to hit up those threshold then
this is the perfect time that they would be asking out things.

It's true, you can barely find any channel live streaming the races or any TV channel broadcasting them live to the audience so that they can watch the races and maybe raise some interest. It's been years since the last time I saw a horse racing live stream or a sports TV broadcasting a horse racing competition, maybe because there isn't a lot happening and the organizers already know that there aren't a lot of people interested in the sport on a global scale.

Whatever the reason is, the sport is slowly fading away and sooner or later, the world will forget that there was once a sport like this, or maybe a future generation will start the sport once again with a new start, new rules, and ways for the race and racers, etc. For now, we are going to admit that horse racing isn't a popular sport anymore.

Yeah this has been nightmare to most of the players who are not really going through terms and conditions of casinos. I highly doubt any casino would keep it hidden from users not have KYC requirement initially and then suddenly they will ask it at the time of withdraw. They ask at the time of withdraw if there is specific amount of money that has been wagered, or there is suspicious activities happening with particular account. Things like that can make it worst if they are not followed properly. It’s that simple. Well at least we can expect this from the regulated (government issued licensed) casinos. It’s better go for dex ecosystem if someone is that much trapped in the fear of having KYC done. 

Regulated casinos have to comply with laws and regulations otherwise they risk losing their licenses and even get sued and have their business shut down.
Casino owner know that enforcing kyc to all their customers hurts their business and results in losing many customers. This is why they try to find ways to get around those regulations and laws such as asking for kyc when they notice something suspicious or the user asks to withdraw a big amount of money.

That should be the ethical way but we are bound by the terms of service which we agreed with.  The agreement on the ToS gives the casino authority over the platform transactions, requirements, and even modification of the lists of rules. If there is something that we don't understand we must make an inquiry about it.  It is not the casino's fault that we misunderstand their rules, they have customer support to explain can give explanation to rules we can't understand.

If we are not happy with their terms then we can just avoid such platform and look for casino platform that is more ethical.


Doing KYC is one of the requirements of the regulatory board, if the casino wants to acquire license they should abide by the regulations set by the authority.  The platform actually pay for the validation of KYC so the platform itself wish it is not implemented to reduce the expenditure of the casino but they can't avoid to implement it because it is required.

I will not call it community selected, if the members don't want to participate.
We think the list is OK, more fair than most of the payed listings you see in online casino guides.

We also acknowledge that it could have been done better, and we might do it differently next year, but I still think it's a pretty good list. I talk to players all day, I play myself, and I believe all of these casinos are good. I know some players want fully decentralized casinos, while others prioritize licenses as the most important factor, and some prefer wallets to connect or provably fair systems, etc.

Perhaps in the future, we will consider adding categories.

However, we hope you will find at least one great casino on the list