I said I'm looking for pieces of evidence that 1xBit and 1xBet are the same entity (even though their name is very similar). I read a lot of "they are the same company" on the forum but I never saw any evidence.

To sum it up: I researched and didn't find so many complaints about 1xBit in 2019/2020. So I'm looking for pieces of evidence that would make it clear that 1xBit is still a bad sportsbook to promote these days.

Again, I'm looking for solid pieces of evidence (not "I've been scammed", "they did this and that", "my friend was scammed"), even though I realize how much the cases of your friends matter to you.

I definitely acknowledge that 1xBit did not act perfectly in the past. It's difficult to say the opposite considering all the bad reviews on BitcoinTalk. And maybe have they not made the efforts to resolve these "old" cases properly, which is definitely not great behavior, too.

But as I mentioned, I didn't find so many scam accusations recently (2019 and 2020) during my searches. This is why I'm looking for recent pieces of evidence that 1xBit is not a fair site to play on.

Also, 1xBet is different from 1xBit, aren't they? Even though some people say the management is the same. I'd also like to know where you get that from.

Note that Trustpilot isn't a trustworthy source of reviews. It's easy to buy thousands of great reviews for your company and terrible reviews for your competitors. Just check this example. https://fr.trustpilot.com/review/skrill.com
Skrill is rated "excellent" while they provide really, really bad service. All the great reviews are very simple and often not written with proper English.

Anyone?

Hi Arwin100,
I'm the person responsible for the post you quoted (CryptoManiaks).

As someone said, all gambling sites have pros and cons. We placed 1xBit here for what I believe are good reasons (read the pros and cons for more information).

As per the scam accusations, I remember checking their reputation on the internet and specifically BitcoinTalk. I found lots of scam accusations that were unanswered (this is very bad, of course).

However, I checked more in-depth and didn't find so many recent scam accusations. Most of them were from 2018 or before. It's a good thing to find "not so many recent accusations" for a gambling site because all gambling sites regularly undergo scam accusations.

This led me to believe that 1xBit improved its support and ethic over the years, and was trying to become a better company. And I'm wondering if you BitcoinTalkers aren't sticking to your old position about 1xBit (which was legitimate).

I might be wrong though. If you find a few solid & recent accusations, we'll definitely remove them from our list of partners, because it's extremely important to us that our followers play on the most legitimate sites possible.

They either have banned me or removed the channel. There's no way for me to contact the team right now.
Plus, I'm not sure what it would change considering that they've made a ton of promises that were never fulfilled, and I assume the ICO wasn't conducted in a legal fashin. Also, I invested in the first place because they promoted an innovative credit crypto card as a proofsuite product, which finally ended up as a fuzex product (sister company). They did it to raise more money through a different ICO.

Anyway, I really feel betrayed by the PROOF team and I'm sure I'm not the only one, which is why I suggest running a class action.

Hi,

I bought in the pre-ico of proofsuite for a lot of money (~ 100ETH)

I bought because the team made lots of promises that were never fulfilled.

Now I'm stuck with useless tokens and the team seems to have completely deserted the project. I'm not able to speak to anyone from their team anymore, nor to connect with any ICO investor.

Since I believe their practices are illegal, I would like to organize a class action with everyone else who has been scammed.

If there's anyone else IN, please comment back on this thread with the amount of ETH you've invested and lost, and details about the team's bad practices if any.

Thanks!