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Just to be clear... Do you want some chat feature built into the Lightning Network software to enable LN Hubs to talk to each other or do you want a chat application like Whatsapp or WeChat that incorporates the Lightning Network as a internal currency with some kind of plugin? There is need for both of these applications, but the one for a large Social media platform would be better for Bitcoin adoption. I think these companies would create their own Crypto currency, because they would want to control all aspects of it. You cannot add a currency feature and then rely on external influences to determine the future of that technology. People need the chat feature built into the Lightning Network software to enable LN Hubs to talk to each other. The world needs a fully noncustodial chat software build on the Lightning network. This will truly protect privacy.
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That's another similar service. But have to wait for the invite.
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There's really no neew building a chat app on top of the lightning network. We already have efficient applications even in the regular network, we need the lightning network for faster transactions such as transacting cryptocurrency. If we want to build a chat application, then use basic platforms.
I think there is a need to build a chat app on top of the lightning network. Someone is doing this, check this out: https://twitter.com/joostjgr/status/1190714028626251779
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They will lose in fees. To open channel and to leave channel. Also, there are fees in lightning network. But they are small So in average people will pay to chat .
But people get their privacy, think it as a kind of paid service for privacy.
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There are many other "open source private messengers" (even p2p), that don't happen to require satoshis for sending messages. This idea is nonsense, it can be done from a theoretical point of view but its pointless and I wouldn't use it.
You need satoshi to send messages, but you also get satoshi to receive messages. So people won't lose any satoshi on average. Lightning wallet and chat software can be integrated into one app. I will use it. If they can support group chat in the future, it can be a game changer in social media.
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Also, once the channel is closed, messages would be lost, as far as I understand the lightning network. The messages wouldn't be on chain.
That can be a feature. If you are thinking only about privacy, certainly there are better alternatives for a chat. Look for some Privacy friendly open source chat app here Privacytools.io
I will learn about Privacytools.io. Thanks. But chatting over Lightning is cool & exciting.
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send one word and my friend receive afer one block?
No, it will be build on Lightning, not on chain BTC.
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Why not apply end to end encryption or PGP? LN is not made for that purpose. Even if you want to do it, you'll need to open a channel here and there. Pretty sure end users wouldn't want to do that and just stick with whatsapp with a fake number.
LN can give people a new option to communicate with each other and keep their privacy. You don't need to open a channel to every people.
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Lightning network has fees when you send something, pretty much like a transaction data, only messages this time. Another thing is that there are already a lot of applications dedicated solely for this purpose.
Another thing to point out is the decentralization that comes into play in Lightning Network. It would bring 2 main disadvantages; [1] It would make private data somehow insecure, since it is stored in individual nodes rather that governed under a centralized secured server, and [2] Even though Lightning Network is faster than the typical blockchain in terms of response time, centralized servers are still much faster generally in performance, which is essential in having an app with the purpose of communication.
1 sat can be devided to 1000 pieces on the lightning network. So it's gonna be extreme cheap to send messages on the lightning network. The message can be encoded, it's only stored on the user's device. Centralized servers are still much faster generally in performance, but people need privacy and centralized servers will not protect their privacy.
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For what purpose? I don't think it's needed if you are thinking it's needed for discussion & learning or even getting help. Because, you can learn everything here in the forum. A lot of legendary are here to help you and figure out if any problem you face to. I have recently had some discussion on Lightning Network and it's my pleasure that I have learnt a lot from the forum. By the way, a beginners guide to learn basic about Lightning Network if anyone is interested- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202798.0I don't think you get my point. I'm saying people should build a chat app on top of the lightning network, not a chat app about lighting network.
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well if you didnt know you wanted to pay G 10 until today you need to set up a channel, which involves an onchain transaction so you might aswell just send him the 10 LN's utility model is more complex than any payment system i know. it involves preplanning spending habits for even a chance of saving on fee's
Does this mean LN doomed to fail?
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But how can we get more and more real world merchants accept BTC with a transaction speed of 3~7 per second?
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Hello, I'm new here. And I want to learn more about bitcoins, so I have some questions.
1: What are the advantages and disadvantages of BTC/LN and BSV?
2: Do you think BTC/LN and BSV can both survive in the long run, or only one can survive or none of them?
3: What is the goal of BTC in the long future?
4: Is massive adoption a goal for BTC in the long future?
Thanks
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I think people in low income countries should directly use lightning network.
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