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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Let's Build THE Community on: November 01, 2019, 09:36:23 AM
If you want to do this properly, then you should register a recognizable domain and create a website to do this. A thread like this will just fade away over time and nobody will use it as a reference.

The main mandate of a project like this should be to educate people on the difference between a centralized and decentralized technology and also the threats associated with centralized Blockchain based technologies.

People should know the difference, because most of these centralized Blockchain based technologies would do more harm than good.  Angry

Let's create the community here first then we may consider other options as well.

For now, we should build a manifest and centralized coin list. I want you to contribute to these.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Let's Build THE Community on: October 31, 2019, 07:27:50 PM
Let's start an idea and share it with others. Let's build a community and be part of it consistently. I want to help it become real. Let's build a decentralized environment otherwise we may lose what we have. As I previously bring it to the eyes of others, We need to go back to the roots and We don't need institutions to back us up

Roots mean being fully decentralized while trading or using bitcoin etc. Institutions' back up means USA's or China's initiatives for creating their own cryptocurrency. They want to eliminate bitcoin and altcoins. Check their thoughts, they don't talk about bitcoin but they refer to blockchain.

Let's identify the centralized coins here, coins and their centralized moves and list them here.
Let's declare a manifest together which takes Satoshi's Ideas as the milestone. Let me start with some, I will add when you reply here, we can vote or counter argument any.

Manifest:

1) We should have the nodes on decentralized servers, maybe on our computers.
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Centralized Coins and Tokens:

1)
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Technical Analysis, Fundamental Analysis and Manipulation Analysis on: October 29, 2019, 12:33:43 PM
The first two are the known and the used ones. What about the third one? I have seen many manipulations and since we are a 7/24 unregulated market, we are more open to manipulations. Which has the more effect on the price? Time to time, I have witnessed that some manipulative moves are occuring right before the technical analysis is pointing some directions. It seems like some people are trying to move the market according to their thougts. There are counter manipulative moves surely but we should take this into account as well.
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Applying Satoshi's Ideas on: October 28, 2019, 06:33:55 PM
2) As I explained above, as far as I can see, people want the price to reach high so that they can make their money 10x-100x. To do that, they want institutions' investments. Check the news, oh hey Bakkt reached daily new volume record. We should be inelastic with the news regarding to these regulation moves. Libra may not get approved, we don't need it. This shouldn't affect the price or this shouldn't decrease the mass adoption. We don't need these.
Come on don't be too idealistic. We must think more openly and accept various ideas, it does not mean all must be approved and applied, but this is more to attitude.
System decentralization has advantages and disadvantages, especially bitcoin, most governments see and realize the good opportunities of bitcoin, it's just that they still worry about the negative side because it cannot be fully controlled by the government. That is why there are various ideas related to cryptocurrency that are more "friendly" with the intervention of the authorities. Everyone has their own tendencies, right? there are always those who agree and don't, we must respect that.

Well, which has more affect on people/community? Facebook can spread its centralized coin or USA government can tell their citizens that bitcoin is illegal and they will create a cryptocurrency on blockchain system. So, they have the good hand, we need to organize and fire back to them. We need to spread these thoughts and hold the community. People shouldn't be afraid of having bitcoin.

Check the comments of politicians. Do they tell more about bitcoin or blockchain technology? You know the answer.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Applying Satoshi's Ideas on: October 27, 2019, 05:37:07 PM



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3) We need to apply the decentralization through getting the nodes out of the centralized servers firstly(aws, google cloud etc.)
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Do you have data on the percentage of nodes that runs on those services? You could have a point here, and a first start would be if you run your own node from your home.

I have seen a report stating that more than 60% of the ETH nodes are on the cloud servers, they are mostly on AWS.

On the other hand, once, Binance CEO stated that AWS issues affected the users. I don't have the full information about what are affected but this shows that 'we have a problem'

https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1164768489040535559
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Applying Satoshi's Ideas on: October 27, 2019, 04:23:37 PM
As far as I can see, we are surrounded by the ones who are willing to become rich quick through bitcoin and other altcoins. While they are doing this, we are missing a lot one of which is the ideas of satoshi. Because of these people, bitcoin is getting negative comments by the ones who are losing money in short term and telling a 'scam scheme' to bitcoin.

A Manifest to The Community

1) We need to go back to the roots
2) We don't need institutions to back us up
3) We need to apply the decentralization through getting the nodes out of the centralized servers firstly(aws, google cloud etc.)
4) We may delay the mass adoption thoughts until we fix some centralization issues
5) This forum needs to be decentralized too




edit for the manifest, morely as an explanation

1) The main idea for Bitcoin is to make the system decentralized and control our own money. We are leaving this through wanting to carry the price ATH whether it is with institutions(Libra, ETFs, Bakkt, and other governmental projects) or some other ways which doesn't include the roots of Bitcoin and ideas of Satoshi.

2) As I explained above, as far as I can see, people want the price to reach high so that they can make their money 10x-100x. To do that, they want institutions' investments. Check the news, oh hey Bakkt reached daily new volume record. We should be inelastic with the news regarding to these regulation moves. Libra may not get approved, we don't need it. This shouldn't affect the price or this shouldn't decrease the mass adoption. We don't need these.

3)I have seen a report stating that more than 60% of the ETH nodes are on the cloud servers, they are mostly on AWS.

On the other hand, once, Binance CEO stated that AWS issues affected the users. I don't have the full information about what are affected but this shows that 'we have a problem'
https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1164768489040535559

4) We, asap, want mass adoption so that the price can reach ATH. Let's not think that simple and work on some issues we have as I stated on 3rd. How to delay it? Well, we may not spread much about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies before we clear the scam ICOs or scale issues or centralization issues. Otherwise, we will lose them forever if they come to a system which is not set yet.

5) We may have a voting system, decentralization means dividing the power.




7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Loan to buy Bitcoin? on: October 26, 2019, 01:13:08 PM
I wouldn't suggest you to take loans for buying bitcoin. It makes you nervous that you are using loans and this affects your trading psychology. Psychology is everyhing while trading. You need to have solid nerves so that you can hold. Even if you are not considering to make trades, you are becoming a holder, long term investors. In order not for you to sell your bitcoins in panic sell, you should have some ways to prevent this.
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