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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BETCOIN.AG are absolute scammers! on: January 04, 2024, 06:58:04 AM

I made 9 withdrawals on the previous accounts, then? What does it have to do with the scamming? The more withdrawals people make, the more scamming someone does? That's what you're talking about?

Edit: No, the old one I lost access so I switched to a Google account. the domain is a totally different system which doesn't share the same login credentials.


So you are admitting you have multiple accounts there? if so and if the site does not allow multiple accounts that means you violated the terms of service. And they can take action based on the Terms.

Note: If you are a regular gambler be careful about creating multiple accounts in any situation. It's better to talk with the support and fix the issue if you have one instead of creating multiple accounts. Because at some point platform accuses you that you are using multiple accounts.

Whatever the case is, there's no term on the website which says they can put me in debt for the money thru fair betting I won at will.
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BETCOIN.AG are absolute scammers! on: January 04, 2024, 02:40:31 AM
This player has admitted to having multiple accounts, which is a violation of the terms of service he agreed to when he signed up. The previous account received withdrawals of profit, which was greater than the deposit made on the second account. This is what put him in "debt" to us. We put debt in quotes, because obviously he will never pay us what he owes. It is absurd to think that he can keep creating accounts and when he doesn't get caught nothing happens, but when we do catch him, he gets his deposit back.

This player is clearly not new at this, as the account had only been closed for about 30 minutes, when he came to BitcoinTalk and sent us a message. It is highly likely this is not his first BitcoinTalk account to cheat and then attempt and extort a gambling site.

Had we not caught him breaking the rules, this would not even be an issue, as he had already sent 9 withdrawals on the previous account, within minutes of his request. A scammer, by definition, is someone that makes money by tricking people. We did not make money and we did not trick anyone. The only scammer here is the OP.

Edit: The player is lying about having lost access to his old account. This isn't like the accounts were used months or even days apart. The first account was created 4 days ago and the new one was created within 7 hours of the previous one withdrawing (where he had to confirm the withdrawal by email). Also, both accounts have the same email address, just a different domain. So there is no chance he forgot his email address, as he suggests.

It's absolutely ridiculous to say I'm extorting the site. For the amount I won in the previous account, as every other player does, I placed fair bets and beared the chance of losing, I won those bets out of my own luck, it's wasn't 100% winning percentage. I believe he has the record of my betting which shows I didn't win every game, even lost most. And I NEVER placed any bet on the same game using different accounts. Nor does he has evidence.

Also, using my deposit I won about 40 dollars in grand total placing bets on maybe 3 different basketball markets, all fair and square, the site is trying to confiscate that too.
This is what put him in "debt" to us. We put debt in quotes, because obviously he will never pay us what he owes.
↑Again, why do I ever owe you any money at all? Any legal grounds behind your rationale? From the screenshot I attached you can see there's no quote on the word "debt" in the email I received.

If there's absolutely no shape or form which you can prove the money I won was either thru scamming or extorting the site, it's not fair to say I'm making money by tricking you guys. Therefore, a refund of my deposit should me made under any circumstances. And I haven't got my deposit back when my account was closed.

For the reason I messaged you in 30 minutes after the closure of my account, is because I found your site support staff doesn't make proper response and I googled then found you make faster response than those people, that's why I message here. That's the only reason. This is my only BitcoinTalk account and, how would I be able to extort a gambling site by just sending DM?

I made 9 withdrawals on the previous accounts, then? What does it have to do with the scamming? The more withdrawals people make, the more scamming someone does? That's what you're talking about?

Edit: No, the old one I lost access so I switched to a Google account. the domain is a totally different system which doesn't share the same login credentials.


3  Economy / Scam Accusations / BETCOIN.AG are absolute scammers! on: January 03, 2024, 06:01:02 PM
OK, so the thing is I forgot the password and the access to my email then I created a new account,
won a bet, requested a withdrawal then all of a sudden I couldn't login, I knew something has gone wrong.

Then they told me thru email that the site doesn't allow duplicate accounting, so they closed my account.
Okay. nothing about the prohibition of duplicate account was mentioned during the registration of account.
Okay, then if you don't honor my winning of bet, then at least return my original deposit.
Then something absolutely ridiculous followed:

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As stated, the deposit will not be returned, as the previous account
received more in withdrawals than the deposit on this account. As the
previous account received a NET profit of 1.05 LTC and the new account
deposited .78 LTC,  you are in debt to us 0.27 LTC. Please send this to
your deposit address as soon as possible.

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Okay, well, BEWARE PLAYERS, if you have ever won any money from this site, you're in debt to them.
You'll eventually need to pay back anything you've ever won from them.
Can't believe there's a casino runs its business like this in 21th century. Bummer.
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