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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BITCLUB NETWORK: THE MAIN SCAMMERS BUSTED (Apart from the sex offender) on: February 21, 2020, 01:25:55 AM
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According to court records, Goettsche played a major role in shaping the revenue structure of BitClub Network, which called for splitting the investors’ money three ways: 20 percent for operating expenses, 40 percent for commissions, and 40 percent going to pay for mining equipment.
https://www.westword.com/news/bitclub-network-was-too-big-to-fail-but-cost-investors-722-million-11642618

Mining Bitcoins (especially after the first halving from 25 to 12.5) is not blazingly lucrative:  providing maybe a 20% profit margin, IIRC.  It is simply not credible that Joby, or any other BCN promoter, could rationally believe that mining Bitcoins could be done at a 20% operating expense, leaving the remaining 80% of investors' money available for commissions and new equipment. 

From his own emails, Joby knew (or at least suspected) in the summer of 2017 that BCN investor capital was not paying for new mining equipment.  Did he try to correct the sham, expose it, or at least warn others?  No.  He continued to hawk BCN so he could land at Country #100+.

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"Fraud is an act of deliberate deception with a design to secure something, which is otherwise not due.  The expression “fraud” involves two elements, deceit and injury to the person deceived. It is a cheating intended to get an advantage. Fraud is proved when it is shown that a false representation has been made (i) knowingly, or (ii) without belief in its truth, or (iii) recklessly, careless whether it be true or false."

In fact, "recklessly, careless whether it be true or false" is probably the best synopsis of Joby Weeks' character regarding BCN. 

Worse still, this snitch-narc-rat tried to save his own reckless skin by feeding his Perpetual Traveler compatriots to the IRS:

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Last spring, Weeks contacted the Internal Revenue Service and met with two of its agents in Washington, D.C. He admitted that he might have some tax problems, having not filed tax returns for several years. The agents thought that sounded pretty serious. Weeks suggested that he could bring far more serious cases to their attention, working undercover for them among the international cryptocurrency crowd he knew so well.

“He was trying to convince the agents that he might serve — in his words — as a ‘Jason Bourne’ of cryptocurrency,” one court pleading notes.
https://www.westword.com/news/bitclub-network-was-too-big-to-fail-but-cost-investors-722-million-11642618

What is it about libertarians that seems to attract such con-men?
Jeff Berwick (Galt's Gulch), Simon Black, Adam Kokesh, Joby Weeks and BCN, etc.

This shit is really getting old.

This forum had been trying since 2015 to warn you about BCN.  Maybe folks will pay a little more attention next time.
When something sounds too good to be true ("a machine that prints money"), it is.  Caveat Emptor, y'all.

2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BITCLUB NETWORK: THE MAIN SCAMMERS BUSTED (Apart from the sex offender) on: February 18, 2020, 04:32:50 PM
You've certainly been keeping abreast; good info, thanks.

Defendant Jobadiah Sinclair Weeks’ Reply in Support of  His Motion to Revoke the Pretrial Detention Order
http://www.courtcasedocs.com/Case%20Files/19-CR-00877-CCC/pdf/037-0-20200203.pdf

That JW's great-grandfather was Eisenhower's Secretary of Commerce will be the clincher.
The DoJ must be saying, "What were we thinking?"
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BitClub Network: MLM promises, false testimonials and PoS coin - AVOID on: February 15, 2020, 11:43:54 PM
I know it only seems like a small thing, these false pictures and non existent customers: "Hey, everyone does it, it's just marketing, doesn't mean anything!" but I don't see it like that. Once someone is established as a liar, then exactly how much of what else that they say can be trusted?

I know people who work in boiler room scams, confidence tricks and the MLM industry: in order to do the job properly they have to have the right psychological approach to the clients victims.
In order to avoid any compassion or sympathy as they hassle people night and day to part with whatever money they have in order to hit their targets, they effectively dehumanise the marks, treat them with contempt and laugh at them.
Some actually place bets on how absurd a pitch they can make and still be successful.

This is where the picture of the rapist/client comes in.
It's reasonable to assume that whoever used that picture of Ansari and gave him the ID of a fictional Brazilian client of BitClub Network, knew where the picture came from and who he was, what crime he had committed. This is the contempt I refer to, "Hey, these people are so fucking stupid, let's show them a picture of a rapist and say he's a client, I bet they don't even fucking notice!"

But someone's had their ass kicked, and the picture's been changed.
A real pro job they've made of it too....




When BCN was exposed on this, they merely swapped the photo with another stranger, a Dr. Carsten Heinrich:

https://qa.linkedin.com/in/carsten-heinrich-73ba3985

At least he's not a convicted rapist . . .  Undecided

It seems that tmfp had BCN pegged since 2015 with his "my suspicion that the operation was only ever a Genesis Mining reseller becomes almost a certainty."

Here's the DoJ site for this case.  All defendants are still being held without bail (flight risk seems high):
https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/bitclub

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