I was able to supply a list of the most common passwords I was using during that period, and it was the one I suspected, *with an additional forgotten special character.  I'm not sure how long my CPU would have taken, but FlayFly's GPU made short work of it.  I do believe an electrum upgrade originally made me set a password, or possibly created an error, but it's quite possible my human memory messed up remembering it too.  I had quite a long period of non-software/electrum usage, and it has been "locked" ever since.  His fee was more reasonable than some other "professional" sites, and was much more personal/just as professional.  Kudos to him, his service, and his wallet.  I hope we all prosper in some way.

very exciting to have access again.  FlatFly was very helpful and upstanding.  a small price to pay for my failure to secure my seeds and password I suppose.  Thanks to everyone that helped give advice over the years.  Is it too late to say...... To the moon! 

This is what I'm starting to discover.  Since I really don't have any idea what the password was, I can't really start a tokens file or password file.  running this on my laptop, or even PC isn't realistic.....


Do you take less than 20% to try?  I'm basically looking at WalletRecoveryService, as it's the only chance I have (not knowing my seed words either).

I've installed btc-recover with all requirements, but not really sure the best way to start. I don't recall any parts of the electrum software password, don't have seed phrases, but the walet is not encrypted as I can red it in notepad.  it says the type is bip32 under keystore.  I wouldn't have made this a complicated password so will brute-force possibly work or another method anyone could recommend would be great.

I've decided to try this again.  I would love any new ideas or a review/post from anyone who helps maintain this software.  This issue is getting to be quite an ancient one, but I kept the software and wallet just in case a new solution becomes available.  I'd really like to not lose this small amt of btc.


thanks everyone.

I can still see the address has a balance, so it hasn't been stolen yet. 

im still wanting this to work, keeping this thread open

So basically, I'm stuck here, with a ?corrupted wallet?, as my password functionality has broken, I must surrender my small fun money to lost seeds.  using btc-recover on unsaved seeds is not really feasible right?

So, back on track.... I used 2.7.18, opened my only upgraded/current todays standards wallet, and electrum is just blank, password does not work as expected, seed unavailable.

as previously mentioned, I seem to know my password, as my previous tests show, but I may have to btc-recover the whole mess if cleanup of wallet is not possible.


cool to read the above stuff, but still wondering.  thx
Lost in Electrum Land

TY for the clarification, I like learning the correct terms.  

I highly doubt I have a non-upgraded wallet file, but will look, and try that version either way.  Thx again for the thoughts, you guys are the stuff legends are made of, helpful and smart.  I had previously tried to reopen with 3.1.2, but wallet version was like already 18, too new.    so revise/downgrade the wallet, or maybe btc-recover, yet I seem to have already confirmed my password I think.

ok, weird......

(testA)   I just d'l'd 3.3.4, and open my of my copies(enc), and it asked me for password to even open the wallet.  it opens with my expected password.  I go to see seed, it shows me the hashed stuff.  The fact I could open the copy where I changed seed:enc to TRUE, opens with my expected password.  WILD.


(testB)  so then, I open 3.3.4 again, with a wallet copy(like orig);seed:enc=false, and it opens, but "password" still invalid, if I try to see my seeds or change password.  what gives?  Oh well, it's great to see different behavior, and at least re-assuring......


so this info is a valid test and all, right?  the wallet does open in scenario A, but still doesn't allow me access to my funds..

is it possible these "wallet or hardware" type changes affected my wallet like this?

BittMaxz, interesting.  The original wallet was from around ~2014 as you stated, then my transactions show I used it last in 2016, but yes, the original version was likely very old.  thanks for the info guys, I will have to try btc-recover I guess.  I hope it works and there's not some other issue.  I shouldn't have to have backup files, and I never forget passwords, but this lesson is one I get to learn again.  I will try 3.3.4....

Thanks already. 

I will try to reply to each of you.  I upgraded by just downloading the 3.3.8 from the official website.  I guess I just opened the new version, it stated that a few things had changed, and was going to update the wallet.  it seemed to work okay.  I can load my address here tomorrow, but funds are there, i can see the balances and transactions, I just can't sign/send/message due to this "forgotten/invalid" password.  I use the windows portable executable, windows 10 now, might have been win7 four years ago or initially.

Yes, the file does look like that.  agreed, the password in encrypted, but the file is not.

Hi everyone.  Been a lurker for years.....

Anyhow, I just started me software up, 3.1.2, and now four years later I upgraded to 3.3.8, and when trying to send funds, I get a password invalid error.  I worked in IT for 20 years, never really forgot a password, so I'm thinking the upgrade increased security a bit too much.  Is that possible?  Of course, I can not locate my seeds, and have tried every password combo I may have used.  Is there a possibility that I didn't have a password at all back in 2012, and now the upgrades have enforced this "invalid password" situation?  I really papprecaite your help, and not a total noob, so I'm willing to try btc-recover or whatever, but it just does't seem like a incorrect password.

I've opened the wallet file, and can see a string of text under the seed: section.  The wallet file also says it is encrypted, even though it is not, as I can read the file.  If I set the encryption to false, electrum shows me the long string which is hashed I'm sure, and attempts to change the password with failure of course.

My wallet file was upgraded from 3.1.2 to 3.3.8, which means the old version of electrum won't open it anymore.  It shows bip32, p2pkh, standard wallet.  Really hopeless here.