As I understand it, you are talking about trust management? In general, you are right, any trust management of your funds will lead you to losses.
Why would someone who knows how to make money on trading take other people's money for buildup? Of course, only in order to reduce his risks in case of losses, but he will not lose his money, but yours.

I have come across many automated trading bots that promise great profits. However, I have never met a bot that would really bring this profit on a stable basis.
As a rule, you are asked to pay for the subscription, then make a deposit, then the bot shows profit for a month or more, and then the entire deposit is drained due to "unforeseen circumstances".

I strongly agree that we must not give the control over our own funds to anyone but there are various API integration I believe such that one can trade with your account but still cannot withdraw or manage that section at all.

So, they can only make orders for buy and sell and the worst they can do is get you in loss but cannot scam.

It's not just Square, and Microstrategy,



Their impact can both be positive, or negative. Being among the largest HODLers of Bitcoin, they should have the responsibility to help in the development of the Bitcoin economy, and in the aspect of Bitcoin education.

Not something openly purchasable on the web as far as I know(because I've also tried finding one in the past, and as expected I couldn't find any); you're better off actually hiring a decent programmer for this. And I'm guessing that you'd actually need  a well optimized software to make it as quick as possible, because it's safe to assume that it's not only you that would have such a bot running.

The bot breaks down how? What do you mean? Do you think it stops by itself? It has been tested continuously, and if there are bugs to report, it's relatively easy, and it will be fixed right away, and you could easily update it. If there are configuration errors, you could always reinstall it. Besides, there's an automatic backup for your configuration on your setup. I didn't think to mention it because I didn't experience it with this setup.

So far this t.me/BTCGnosis is the only trading group that was very useful to me. Most of the trading group above has a lot of members already and very hard to interact whenever you have a specific question to the trading guru.

This is a good thread though and please don't add those paid groups or there so called premium signal group, that is a BS group that sending fake signal to the tokens that they have position open early.

I'd also like to ask if there are paid groups that are really good or just fleecing ppl??

PS I like this guy's channel BTW @TraderAdityasJ

Do you have any discord channel or Facebook Chat Groups that are for learning trading and being surrounded by kind and understanding traders? I have one trading facebook chat group but it is exclusive and not pertaining to Cryptocurrency Trading per se but rather on Stock Market Trading (in which are people within my  local country). Guess I'll try joining those groups later and see a month engaging on those communities would be helpful for my learning in trading.

Have you guys tried OTC? I mean it scares the bejeezus out of me but there are so many people who do OTC right now and that doesn't look healthy at all but so much volume as well so I don't know.

They just give btc to people they do not know and they get money to their account and you basically don't do any KYC at all, or you can meet face to face and do it in cash which is a bit less scary, you do not worry about getting your money stolen because you are in public and even though if you meet with them in a shady place you could still be robbed, if you do it in a very crowded place, the possibility if you getting robbed drops significantly.

I have never done it myself because I am very afraid but if any of you guys did it, I would like to learn about your experience.