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I tried account from 0-9. My way is, trying to find the private keys for this Adress bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567, so maybe i get a clue if he is the owner, but i cant find the private keys, so for me it looks also like he is not the owner. I dont know where are the coins, i have no explanation, except he is not the owner and make failure during copy & paste, but this never happened to him....
I don't think he is in control of that address either. You mentioned that you sent a total of 4 transactions. Three to that address and one to another one. However, I can see a fourth transaction in the missing address. Another ~0.1 BTC was sent to bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567. Was that transaction sent by you? What about bc1qefs2d4ck8mw68l24r9w7y2nwy7t3nkt43fw5pg address? You claim that your friend could see the transaction received to that wallet. Did you manage to find that address in one of these 10 accounts? Hello. Yes, you are right. I can see 4 transactions on this adress (bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567) too. The fourth with ~0.1 BTC was not sent by me. This adress i can find in his electrum wallet: bc1qefs2d4ck8mw68l24r9w7y2nwy7t3nkt43fw5pg. So this amount send by me he recieved. nc50lc Today i tried to export my friend private keys with the BIP39 tool. When i do that, i get this adresses (all private keys starts with L + K) -snip-But also i cant find the private key of this adresse there (bc1qefs2d4ck8mw68l24r9w7y2nwy7t3nkt43fw5pg), but thats the Third Transaction which My friend recieved. https://blockstream.info/tx/14210edd41e629264106f90470a1cff9fd870c391fa4094a93a4fba7e11f2d53I mean, the BIP39 tool should display the private keys to this adress too, right? So both adress starts with bc1 are missing on BIP39. Maybe there is something wrong? Did you mean, the seed phrase, not private keys alone? Those are legacy addresses, you have to select the proper derivation path to derive the Native SegWit addresses. For iancoleman's BIP39 tool, select BIP84 tab. So you have access to your friend's keys, he must be a very close " friend" to entrust you his keys. But the post above about " ismine: false" is the answer to your question, and I second it. Yes, i have tried it with BIP84 and i get all the private keys with the bc1 adresses, but i cant see the missing adress and not the belonging private key. Yes, he is my best friend, we trust each other. |
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Friends. Today i tried to export my friend private keys with the BIP39 tool.
Are you referring to this tool? If so then first of all, you should use the offline version without the Internet connetion. Never enter your recovery phrase on any online website. Once you recover your friend's funds, create a new wallet using Ledger and send the coins there. You should be also be careful when entering the seed on a computer since it could be infected with some malware. Having said that, never enter your seed anywhere unless there is no other choice. If you tried to use this particular tool to generate your addresses then you should have also modified the derivation path after entering your seed. Under 'Derivation Path', there are a few buttons (BIP32, BIP44, BIP49, BIP84, BIP141). Select BIP84 and you should see addresses starting from bc1. You can also easily modify the account number under that tab. Hello, yes i mean this tool from coleman, i use it offline. Thanks, so i tried it with BIP84 like you said and now i can see all the adresses with bc1, but the Adress where i sended the funds to (which we are missing) bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567, is not there. I am right that this is also a explanation / proof that he is not the owner of the this adress? I tried account from 0-9. My way is, trying to find the private keys for this Adress bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567, so maybe i get a clue if he is the owner, but i cant find the private keys, so for me it looks also like he is not the owner. I dont know where are the coins, i have no explanation, except he is not the owner and make failure during copy & paste, but this never happened to him.... |
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Hello everyone, thanks for helping me. nc50lc To answer your question: I have no log, but i made an screenshot of the adress. I can confirm that the characters are exactly the same. I can confirm that nobody is infecected. I take a lot of transactions every day with my electrum and everything is fine. My friend is also not infected, i tried it with copy-paste random adresses and before everything was fine to. Friends. Today i tried to export my friend private keys with the BIP39 tool. When i do that, i get this adresses (all private keys starts with L + K) Adresses: 14iHnGKkqsdM3NykGVpVjKh6vzAUtrgvfg 1PR2qjouLzFG4kN7MxSDieoPKv27f5s3KF 1MbrPiPEc6ejTyMuDyetVjG8ukTD944MhV 1F8rZ2HUfDm5cL7XkZ8tbKhb4xvgQGzfTf 17sEzjjMAi9H2nt5DwPL13GYDvC7ZekC3V 1PW2wFKxEjZ3wW9EJeRktmxNx72LU4gnua 1J4TkMr855PT78sSmNXQBSaiH5Gyz9EYfR 1PLxESd4FiDZvGrki9AFidudtMwabdMesx 1HT3jeTGdB82Vtma3ogeRKnEBppyrahNGJ 1FbCqvgzJyJjH2FuQ45xerFGj3UxtpDQDj 1PSK6ZaiVKKctHXk41tWDF5qfNRmjr8hca 13QrhvjJuCqjkomTYGqzYUeyyJASEMMsuB 18Fed1Xup8Sf54zgLh9K5LcTzq3qHdhRPz 18iwJw4QTYVo7XcayiXAhvCLutCkY8q9Yb 17Gsw3fZFsyTqC6ChJPZDbkDxyU9qYpDbr 163Agjius6UQCTDWKZVMX7WLcakRWnoLcM 1GjQZnhivUCaYMKzU6w9XuPsr9ajsvLs3t 1CbPz91QftfXKAoxNCRkoHSvBieXVES6xg 1DPrv1uU18ZswG3neqWonzv6FDYi1jm4ok 13xfUfuzyLxPhAPbfC8Bf3ffcijG7XAsoB The adress where i sended the bitcoins (bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567), is not there. ), is not there. Is this also the proof that he isnt the owner of the adress? Since HCP told me, there is no need to confirm the Adress in ledger, i am not sure again what happened here. But also i cant find the private key of this adresse there (bc1qefs2d4ck8mw68l24r9w7y2nwy7t3nkt43fw5pg), but thats the Third Transaction which My friend recieved. https://blockstream.info/tx/14210edd41e629264106f90470a1cff9fd870c391fa4094a93a4fba7e11f2d53I mean, the BIP39 tool should display the private keys to this adress too, right? So both adress starts with bc1 are missing on BIP39. Maybe there is something wrong? If anyone can fix this, i can donate 500 Euro to the board wallet. You can also contact me with PN / telegram / wickR. Have you guys more ideas? Kind regards and big THANKS |
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khaled0111Hello. Can you please tell me where i can export my privat keys for testing? Which other wallet do you recommend? Thanks!
nc50lc„When you said wallet, did you mean the same address or another address from the same wallet? Because sending to the same address which didn't went though is a pointless test.“ Let me explain please: First Transaction was this one [My friend did not recieve this one]. https://blockstream.info/tx/2b649c7be09b2d53ea9245bf7f8051ed2f721d41045c6b9fce98020aef4ce75cAdress: bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567 Second Transaction was this one [My friend did not recieve this one]. https://blockstream.info/tx/5356b5595824ef9b58b8b806290281acec577b22b169511254f014de3aa3cef9Adress: bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567 Third Transaction was this one [My friend recieved]. https://blockstream.info/tx/14210edd41e629264106f90470a1cff9fd870c391fa4094a93a4fba7e11f2d53Adress: bc1qefs2d4ck8mw68l24r9w7y2nwy7t3nkt43fw5pg Fourth Transaction was this this one: [My friend did not recieve this one]. https://blockstream.info/tx/b655633c8d3f7f67be843dfa067a536c9ff61dcfaefff13b44893b479156291fAdress: bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567 For me it looks now like he is / was not the owner of the adress. What you think? -- Do you have a log of your conversation where this address is written?
If so, confirm all of the characters if they are the completely the same.Yes, i have the log and screenshot. My friend gave me this adress, its 100% correct. bob123I believe that the address might actually not belong to the wallet of your friend. Since you already imported the seed from the hardware wallet into electrum, try the following (within the wallet file where all addresses start with bc1..: • Go to the Menu: View -> Show Console • Go to the Console Tab • Enter this: ismine("bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567") If it returns false, it seems that this address indeed does not belong to your friends wallet. The most probably scenario here is that either you or your friend is infected with some kind of malware. Another option would be that he is trying to steal some coins from you by giving you a different address. I tested this, consale gave this output:
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You are connected to an ElectrumX 1.14.0 server.
>> ismine("bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567")
false
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He dont want to steal something from me, also no one ist infected.
AbdussamadElectrum 3.3.8 HCPBitcoin 1 (native segwit) BitCryptexThis was my error today, i forgot to enter one word from the seed, now i can see the transaction from the paste, but not the one where are missing, ,the one which i sendet to: bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567 (0.39 BTC) I can see the other transactions on the watch only wallet, so i guess 99,9% he was / is not the owner of this adress. Thats my only explanation at the moment. I think he logged into ledger, clicked on „revieve“, then he put unlocked the ledger, copied the adress BUT dont confirmed it on the ledger in the last step, so the adress was not confirmed for him. Do you know what i mean? I have no other ideas now. I tried everything you told me. Anyone has another Idea with this new infos from me? Can my explanation be right (not the owner, because ledger not confirmed)? Thank you all, have a nice day
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Hello everyone,
thanks for your help. Im talking for my friend here, i try to find the coins for him. No Hijacking, not Scam, he dont want to steel coins from me.
I want to answer all your questions and want to try all your tipps, but today / now i wanted to add my standart wallet with my seed (BIP 39 Seed Option in Electrum) again. This is native segwit (p2wpkh) on m/84'/0'/0' path. Now there there are NO transactions anymore in overview now, lol.
1.) I have added standart wallet with my seed (BIP 39 Seed Option in Electrum).
This is legacy (p2pkh) on m/44'/0'/0' path.
There are no transaction in overview.
2.) I have added standart wallet with my seed (BIP 39 Seed Option in Electrum).
This is p2sh-segwit (p2wpkh-p2sh) on m/49'/0'/0' path.
There are no transaction in overview.
3.) I have added standart wallet with my seed (BIP 39 Seed Option in Electrum).
This is native segwit (p2wpkh) on m/84'/0'/0' path.
There are no transaction in overview.
On friday i could see all the transaction, i think i have a problem with the derivation path, but i am not sure.
Does anyone know how i can fix this problem first, then i can go on with your tipps.
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Network traffic isn't the problem here as the three transactions were confirmed already and your Electrum seems to be synchronized as it shows the last transaction as confirmed!
Try to send the total balance (0.39167BTC minus fees) to another address you own and see whether it gets broadcasted or it returns the "insufficient funds" error message.
Alternatively, you can export "bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567" private key and import it into a new wallet and see what happens.
Thanks for helping! Ok, i understand. I am afraid to send 0.39167BTC again. I dont want to loose the next amount. I could send this, because i have the funds on my wallet at the Moment. What is the idea of this Mister? I will Export the private key to another wallet and will check again. Thanks. |
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Do you have any idea what happened or what can i do / check?
I have no idea why both Ledger Live and Electrum don't show the first transaction. It could be some kind of connectivity issue. Try relaunching Electrum a few times or manually changing the server (click on the green dot in the bottom-right corner, go to 'Server' tab, untick "Select server automatically", right-click on any server on the list and select "Use as server"). Can you see the second transaction on Ledger Live? This is so strange! I send a 3 Transcation to the same wallet and it doesnt arrive also. Maybe the Network got to much traffic? I dont know the Transaction on electrum and ledger. |
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The second Transaction i did, i am at his house now.
Is this transaction the one you are talking about? It is fairly small, but it was sent to exactly the same address as the 0.39 BTC transaction so if it was sent by you, there is no reason why the first transaction shouldn't appear in the wallet. Yes, im Talking About this Transaction! This was the second one. This one is confirmed already. Yes, that is was i dont understand - this is the same wallet / adress. The first Transaction is not showing up! I am sitting here with my and his Notebook and i can see there, that the Transaction is not there. I am so confused. Do you have any idea what happened or what can i do / check? Thanks a lot! |
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Can you see if Ledger generates exactly the same receiving address as the one you sent the coins to? When I opened Ledger Live, some of my transactions were listed as unconfirmed even though they were confirmed a long time ago. In Ledger Live, open settings, go to 'Help' tab and try to clear cache. It forces your client to resynchronize. It worked for me and now I can see my transactions as confirmed.
Thanks for fast Reply! No, i cant see the exactly recieve Adress, because the Transaction is not showing in ledger, also not on the restored wallet with seed on electrum. The Transaction is not in ledger, not unconfirmed / confirmed, like a ghost Transaction, Nothing. Let me explain, Maybe you know if this is possible: My Friend Maybe forgot to confirm the recieving adress on the ledger nano s. I mean: If the forgot to confirm the recieving adress with doubleclick at the end, can this be the reason that he dont get the coins to this adress? He just told me this Wallet and i send the coins there. Is it possible when i send the Money to his "Unconfirmed" wallet that is lost forever, also when its confirmed in the network? I hope you know what i mean. Clearing the Cache doesnt help  , it dont Looks up.
Unfortunately the Transaction is not on this wallet, but on the blockexplorer ist completely confirmed.
The transaction indeed is confirmed. Is bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567 the address your friend gave you ? We already tried to restore his wallet on electrum with the seed to take a look if the bitoins are there, but they Arent.
What kind of addresses did you see in electrum? Did they all start with bc1.. ? If so, it seems that he did not receive the coins. But if all addresses start with 1.. or 3.., they might still belong to his wallet / seed. P.s. after this is resolved, tell your friend to generate a new seed on the nano s and move all coins to it. Importing the seed into a software wallet defeats the purpose of having a hardware wallet. This seed should be regarded as compromised now. # Hello thanks for help and fast Reply. Crazy Situation for me now. Yes, bc1qj50q40uugqq23pz2nxgey3u2f0lphy3ls4x567 is the adress he gave me. I restored 3 wallets in electrum. 1.) Is empty 2.) Starts with 3, but also Empty 3.) Starts all bc1, that is his actual wallet which was in ledger also, there he generated this adress with bc1. The first Transaction is not there, i dont know why. Do you think its on the way? He generated a second adress there i sended small amount, that was instantly there, unconfirmed, after 2 minutes confirmed. I am afraid that he dont confirmed the Adresse, before gave me (for the first one) and now the coins are lost. I dont know if this is possible. The second Transaction i did, i am at his house now. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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Hello everyone, i have a Problem regarding my Transaction. I have send 0.39 BTC from my electrum wallet to a Friends wallet who has a ledger nano s. This is the TXID: https://blockstream.info/tx/2b649c7be09b2d53ea9245bf7f8051ed2f721d41045c6b9fce98020aef4ce75cUnfortunately the Transaction is not on this wallet, but on the blockexplorer ist completely confirmed. We already tried to restore his wallet on electrum with the seed to take a look if the bitoins are there, but they Arent. Can someone please help me? Thanks a lot |
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