Come on actmyname you didnt even need to read that post, you've read it all before 100x and seen the evidence.

This is meta right, you dont need presentation of accompanying and corroborating evidence you've examined multiple times before right?

If you claim that isn't true then just pick a point and ask me to fill you in.

Why not finish this rebuttal first. This was an especially poor defense of the undeniably broken merit system before it was made far worse.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088852.0


I believe you attempted some defenses of a few scum bags in that one

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170789.0


I always enjoy drilling down on things especially if we are examining individuals here in DT including some mods.


So pick a point and let's go. I don't enjoy needing to hold back on members due to uncertainty of their true nature or intent. This is an itch I've wanted to scratch for a long time. Remaining respectful to people that may be deserving of none is an unpleasant position.

It doesn't really matter how concise a person is when detailing the truth.

Those that wish to locate the truth will find it.  Those that don't,will provide multiple reasons for avoiding it.

Some people are often intimidated by the language and presentation of those with a nice command of English.


The truth is never concerned by max drill down.
 

Whom or which part of the broken systems of control would you like to produce any form of robust counter argument?

This is regarding the useless nature or mods right? I mean as Welch says mods like to see DT manage the subjective scamming or potential scamming. Lol what could possibly go wrong. No conflict of interests there then.

I mean mods also like to allow proven scammers to deal with potential or possible scammers.
Mods like to deal with protecting proven scammers.

Mods like lots of sub optimal things.


Polonius paraphrased version

Put up or shut up, quit finding excuses to ignore the truth.
You defend scammers and the corrupt knowingly and repeatedly then you'll need to be treated and spoken to as a corrupt scammer.


===========================================

This need for it to be easily digestible or should be ignored is just another excuse like all the other excuses for denying the truth I've listed.

If the topic is not important enough for you to dredge through 754 words that's fine just ignore my posts.
Look there is your out. Just don't pretend it could all be debunked if only you had the time to read it first.

I'm not taking any hostages in future.  Debunk my points or ignore them but no excusing/ defending independently verifiable scammy, corrupt and financially dangerous behaviors from DT mods or

Pick your member and defend them. Let's see how it goes.

There I go again... rambling on ..too many wordzzz

If they were only useless that would be a vast improvement.

Just take a look at the independently verifiable truth.

The vast majority are

1. Proven scammer supporters
2. Willing scam facilitators for pay
3. Down for censoring whistleblowers and abusing their accounts.
4. Scammer sympathisers who cry when they leave the forum
5. Self serving broke bum parasites that will do, say or agree with anything to keep their sig
6. Will stand by and observe all of the above and say nothing to remain inside with these dregs.


You would have a big problem mentioning any well known meta posters that I can not undeniably demonstrate fall into these categories.

Then you have fools like Welch who keep spouting debunked moronic drivel that has been debunked 100x before in the objective standards thread started by TS that TOAA had covered multiple times before.

Subjective scamming? " the community decide"

The community? You mean a bunch of proven scammers and scammer supporters?
The community is long gone but they didnt get to decide shit.
Well they got to decide to leave I guess lol

Go ahead test it out ... bring me one of the regular DT meta posters or mods or theymos or the 2bit selective scam hunters.
I mean the true dirt bags are mostly gone but their supporters like hilarious, suchmoon, Welch a big tman ass muncher, theymos a big lauda fan and all the other weasels are still here leaching the remaining dust from the forum.

Go ahead bring some suggestions including all the scum like nutildah and pharmacist aka hugeblackwoman

The bct human centipede of broke down dregs all trying to stomp out any whistleblowers or even competition to their racket.

The telling point above their own past scamming and scammer supporting and protecting was the rejection of removing subjectivity and introducing the objective standards as a transparent and basis for the trust system.

TS did seemingly influence theymos to make a half hearted attempt at that but he totally fucked it up and made it worse by leaving the subjective corrupt red tag system in place and even lower the threshold for red tagging.

Not that he ever upheld his empty words for the proven scamming or strong evidence of scamming and just allowed his pals like lauda and other parasites like nutildah to give out red tags for presenting independently verifiable evidence of their own financially motivated wrongdoing.

So useless would be a huge improvement over the deliberately negative and corrupt self serving input they have here.

Watch nobody debunk anything I've just said.
Then start to realise that complaining here and expecting any support from those theymos has placed in power directly or indirectly is a waste of time.

Imagine asking people that have been here since near the start or many many years that are still broke down bums to willingly compete on a fair playing field if they dont have to? They dont want that.

They are not useless, they are deliberately and wilfully corrupt and dirty.

Hence why meta is an echo chamber that will tell you everything is perfect and optimal whilst scammers punish whistleblowers whilst leaching max dust from the forum.

People dont like being broke
People dont like being unpopular

Those 2 forces have moulded what has become the concentrated mass of low functioning dregs that remain here.

They have leveraged and destroyed the board on this bullshit " we must be able to guess at who is a scammer before they scam"
Whilst at the same time saying our pals can scam and have multiple instances of financially motivated wrong doing and we will block all warnings on them and punish anyone whistleblowing on them.

That is not just useless is it?

That's like describing a rapist as useless.  Admin and mods will not only standby and allow scammers to abuse their whistleblowers they will join in and support that. They will also resist objective transparent standards as a basis for the trust system.

If you are innocent just make another account. They'll be looking for an excuse now.
If you are a scammer just leave.


Don't waste time in meta though, you would never get a fair hearing here.

There will be zero credible challenge to this post because it's all been done before and anyone of the vocal and active DT meta posters knows they have been crushed by the truth every time they attempt a rebuttal.


Understand just what that means about the people running this show now.

This is perfect example of a negative value, off topic effort from a corrupt campaign manager and ex garbage collector.... well I say Ex but is collecting more garbage continuously on his campaigns.

Are you sure you posted on the correct thread ?

You've made no attempt to stay on topic or even debate the merits of a new global mod?

This is a debate for anointing another global mod ? Your post seems off topic and irrelevant?

Of course no mod will delete it because their dust could depend on it.
Hence the mess of  allowing mods to have a clear conflict of interests.

Come to my Roobet thread ( which I have a feeling could get busy over the coming weeks )
I guess that's what has rattled your cage really scumbag.

When I'm global mod you and your campaigns are in for a shake up. Everyone will get a fair crack at sig spots, except proven scammers. The rest will be measured fairly against objective standards, not just let my pals and those that give me some backhanders on the gravy train.

Now pick specific on topic points and tackle them, debunk what I've said or just run away like usual and keep milking the forum with your parasitic pals.


@ the pretend The-Mod-Above-All  

Now that's what I call effort and appreciation. I wasnt going to spend any further time here for a month or two but since you've gone that extra mile put in that effort and attempt at humor.  I'll stick around and help the forum a lot lot more.

Ah, the new global mod pipes up.

I don't know why anyone here including notildah believes that anyone who's not a not a broke down no coiner bum that needs to eat DT ass cares at all about your ignore list.

So once again mr prospective mod why don't you pick something I've said and try to debunk it or even form some semblance of a rebuttal rather than running away hiding behind the old mental Illness, trolling etc

Another mod? Let's get one mod that actually dares to present a robust case for their actions that can withstand transparent analysis and probing without collapsing to reveal it is just the actions of a person looking out for their own financial interests and just doing what is required to remain part of the meta human centipede riding on the merit = trust = darkstar hhampuz yahoo self serving gravy train.

How about some objective standards that are transparent and clear to which all members are measured equally ?

The examples given by nutildah are clearly not even realistic.
That bot generated post is clearly not sneakily weaving it's way through loop holes in the rules.

It is low value meaningless rubbish and would be deleted instantly.

However the post to which i refer is not as low value as many that get merit, many of the posts by DT, mods, merit sources are provably false and have previously been conclusively debunked. I mean their posts are trolling and in many cases a form of scam facilitating.

You don't need more mods, you need independently wealthy mods that dont need to spam sigs, dont require payment and are objective and honest and under no pressure to befriend or side with scum bags to continue eeking out their dust here.
Mods that can field robust, credible and  transparent arguments and reasoning to justify their actions.
If their actions are not based on objective and robust reasoning that stands up to scrutiny they are not suitable as mods.

It really isn't that difficult.

The best part for the objective and discerning reader here is that whenever there's an independently verifiable but inconvenient truth or any form of argument they cant cope with the DT fools start boasting they will place you on ignore?  as if that makes them appear anything but pathetic and corrupt. Then say oh its lovely and peaceful in our provably corrupt and pathetic echo chamber. The back slapping human centipede just continues to entertain.  

The best mod would clearly be the person that has been challenged the most but has never had any of their points regarding the trust system, merit system, permitted flow, DT etc debunked even once ever.
Clearly that type of person is the supreme and credible selection for The-Mod-Above-All.

Anyway, that's all the time I can donate to helping the forum for this month.
Unless I see some special effort, appreciation and incentive to hang around.

Hey dummy safe trip by the way.

Now just in case the worst was to befall you,  could you try to debunk anything I have said rather than hiding behind your bingo cards or other scam facilitating provably bogus negative value contributions?

No? Lol

Anyway I'm just here discussing the need for a new global mod and the fine proposals to fill those shoes.

So far we have quicksellout7 who naturally being an escrow scammer and proven liar agrees with your right to post lies and misleading demands rather than answering legitimate questions.  Already demonstrating he would be a great selection for admin.

To answer your question yes it is something that you may be punished for.

Then again presenting independently verifiable truth is also something the warden of this forum supports so I wouldn't really worry about it.

Roobet ? Paying proven escrow scammers and deceptive account sellers caught out lying?

There is overwhelming evidence provided by certain members here that the escrow scammer quickseller is primenumber7
This evidence is not only based on linguistic analysis there is a stronger evidence that is based on independently verifiable actions between him and the scammer lauda. When all of this evidence is considered there is no doubt that Roobet is paying a scammer to post on this forum.

I would like to hear from Roobet why they are paying

Tagged and flagged member to post here.


Roobet are knowingly sponsoring a scammer and deceptive account seller and proven liar?

If quicksellout7 or Roobet wish to discuss this with me then feel free.

All messages that dont remain on topic will be deleted.

I mean I know quicksellout7 is very keen to support people screaming don't feed the troll in the face of inconvenient truths but that won't be allowed to divert from the truth here.  


This thread may be altered or even deleted should evidence or actions deem it optimal.

Should we clean up this forum rather than allow financially dangerous parasites milk it dry?

Come on Roobet do some DD.

This post is a red flag.

If suchmoon wants them to be deleted then there should be a thorough transparent investigation to investigate the situation.

Moderation bias has been raised by plenty of credible and very early bitcoin adopters.
Plenty of people that have achieved far more than any posters remaining here spamming sigs.

I would start a thread in rep with all deleted posts and call out the mod deleting to detail their reasoning.

Beware though that if you don't produce posts that are clearly on topic and relevant then likely you may receive worse treatment in future and nobody will take the time to investigate.

I believe any member that has been here years should have the automatic right to have gross moderation bias investigated transparently.
If your argument is clearly debunked and the post is found to be irrelevant and off topic with no value to the core points made in the OP then sig ban for life.

Inconvenient and valuable truths are often deleted here or labelled as trolling.

Let's see.

Always fun to drop by and read the self important non achievers and no coiners harping on about the " improvements " Theymos should introduce to the forum.

Lol, maybe theymos is now catching on, that the bunch of sig spamming greedy slime here, made up of escrow scammers, self defined willing scam facilitators for pay, and the rag tag bunch of trust abusing dumb fucks only give out suggestions that suits them.

I mean look at the pathetic 200 online total members here now? Take your serial sig spammers aka anything managed by hhampuz, darkstar and yahoo away? What do you have left in your echo chamber to moderate?

A new global moderator lol? What's wrong with hilarious selection you've got now. All you need to do is swap the text on hilarious and co's control panel to the inverse and you're good to go.

Of course you could add nutildah who like to delete his own post history when hes trying to hide evidence of his own willing to facilitate scamming for 300bucks
Someone begging for 0.02 btc not long ago.
I'm not joking when I say he could be the least damaging global mod from the current suggestions here.

Prime number 7 ? This is the worst possible choice, I would see suchmoon as global mod before that slimy snake cunt.
That devious skank would manipulate that position and is the least trustworthy person here I believe now.
So that could be an endorsement as far as Theymos is concerned.

Just look as what quicksellout7 is proposing ..that is perfectly fine and correct to slap lies and misleading claims demanding threads be terminated with dont feed the troll bullshit.

When

1. Oloeieo fails when challenged to present even 1 instance of trolling ever.

2. More importantly fails to even challenge the inconvenient truths being labelled falsely as trolling.

This is actually scam facilitating that PN7 is supporting here.
If you try to mislead people into believing independently verifiable evidence of financially motivated wrong doing is trolling in other words conclusively debunked garbage you are facilitating scamming.

Pn7 aka quicksellout for years was constantly claiming lauda was a proven scammer and produced evidence to corroborate that.
Then when lauda has also red tagged and flagged quicksellout and had claimed he was a proven scammer.

Then what happens ? Lauda tags PN7 and suddenly quicksellout7 and lauda at the same time that both are not scammers after all. Qs7 retracts and delete a bunch of evidence he has stood behind for years just to be able to earn some money on his new account without a red from lauda.

You would see this kind of weasel as global mod. You will make the forum a laughing stock more than it is now.

Sure hilarious and co is a totally biased scammer supporting parasite, but as far as I know is not actually a scammer himself. Lets not sink further than that for the admin level here.

What this forum needs is to delete all sigs and then you'll need less mods.

Or it needs objective clearly defined standards that are enforced equally to all members.

Maybe Theymos needs someone as global mod that has never had one of their posts regarding the trust system, nor a post regarding the on topic and relevant nature of a post debunked or successfully refuted even though they have been challenged 100s of times?  Someone who's isn't here to eat ass and chum up with other broken down scumbags to eek out some btc dust? Isn't afraid to do what is required to rid the forum of the parasites draining it and making it a deserted echo chamber.

No no that's just a silly idea... sorry.

The fact the forum can even take seriously what proven scammers and willing scam facilitators for pay have to say regarding the operation of this forum is hilarious.

Then when you look at the only people that respond to or engage with these proven financially dangerous scum you notice it is simply more of their ilk. Couple of exceptions myself being one of those.

The forum does not need more global mods it needs one global mod that can successfully defend all of their actions publically when a novel action is taken that has not been defended successfully before. When taking into account the rules. Whilst introducing a sensible permitted flow for everyone to follow.

No sigs for anyone will soon fix 90% of the spam, the rest can be taken out under the sensible " trolling " definition of posting previously conclusively debunked garbage as true or Visa versa.

Nobody would support such a global mod because most of the dregs posting in this thread would be either banned or sig banned for life by now. Couple or exceptions maybe

Keep entertaining me though no coiner non achieving dregs with these self important demands that will make all the difference to the handful of posters that are not just here to sig spam for dust.

Hilarious and co does a great job of ensuring nobody takes the mods here for serious enthusiasts trying to improve the forum. Rather just using multiple accounts to eek max dust whilst supporting scammers abusing their whistleblowers since they feel that helps them retain their sig dust spots.

Then the forum acts all shocked that other very well known members of the original bitcoin community go around reporting that this forum is a biased and broken echo chamber full of non achieving insignificant losers.

I mean feel free to debunk any points I've made.

I nominate The-Mod-Above-All

Cut the excuses. The merit / trust  system has driven many away that could have been retained and been useful.

Just say that you want to run away.

Lol at telling me how negative and terrible my posts have all been,   but now don't dare to transparently analyse them publicly and find out there is not one core point that I have made that is anything but the raw and unpopular truth.

I'm a huge fan of bct and what it has achieved all things considered. Of course it isn't anywhere near what it once was.

Keep yourself out of drama by confining your posts to things that are demonstrably true and avoid posting bogus and misleading garbage in response to my undeniable and independently verifiable truths.

This may sound like a hostile reply but it seeks only the truth.


Ah the standard chipmixer spammers reply...  works fine for me because I can spam chipmixer.

Here are some questions and challenges for you  the answers to which will demonstrate you're talking rubbish.

1. Read this thread and then try to debunk it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088852.0

This thread is actually understating the damage of merit since merit was not at that point directly being conflated with trust.

2. Find a post made by myself or any of my alleged alts that was ever conclusively debunked or seriously challenged that relates to the obviously undeniable independently verifiable and insoluble problems with the current merit and trust control systems and their direct impact upon free speech here. I mean a ban is not the only threat that can create an echo chamber. But threats of banning have been issued to people before.

The joke is that simply presenting independently verifiable truths will get you slathered in bogus red tags from chipmixer spammers who wish to protect their merit and trust cartel that allows them to cream off the higher paying sig spots.

3. If you have been here since may 13 and are not wealthy enough to allow someone else a chance with chipmixer ? What does that say about you?  If you are not a multi millionaire, that demonstrates terrible judgement or if you are already superwealthy then it is extreme greed to deprive others of a sig spot.


4. It is untrue that you need to break the rules to be banned or threatened with a ban.
I notice TOAA documented all of its deleted posts and then challenged anyone to present a solid argument as to why they were deleted.
The mods ran off and when they did try to provide an explanation it was immediately debunked and shown to be bogus.
These kinds of bogus metrics can be used as a weapon to propose a ban.

Telling inconvenient truths or even presenting indisputable evidence of scamming or scam facilitating by DT or others can get you tagged and banned. They will get you tagged for sure.

The forum is toxic at its core. People will not be part of a system where scammers are able to punish whistleblowers and this is supported by admin who join in and support the scammers against their whistleblowers.


The truth is the truth. It can never be negative. The truth needs to be accepted and then the appropriate solutions need to be implemented.
Relating unpopular truths is the most positive thing one can do for this forum.

Lack of fair playing field in terms of earnings or even being able to reveal independently verifiable truths or evidence without punishment are 2 key reasons some will leave.

Of course becoming wealthy will bring more opportunities into range that take up time.

But it's a spiral.  One of the most interesting members was banned, people that I notice seemed to post directly in response to him then didnt bother posting. People that came to read their interactions and join in now and then didnt post much.
The less interesting and enjoyable content to read the less you visit.

There a numerous reasons some of which were beyond the forums control that lead to its demise but merit was the cancer especially when it was conflated with trust that polluted its core and made it toxic.

It really doesnt matter much because bitcoin and crypto in general have outgrown bct.
Bct did its job great, so what happens to bct now is of small import.

It is useful for perhaps very technical discussions but how many of the 200 or 300 online are super eggheads and boffins and how many are chipmixer sig spammers regurgitating each others comments over and over to max their posting payouts is anyone's guess.

Bitcointalk shouldn't be judged on what it has become now. It should be admired as the birth place of bitcoin, alts and quite possibly the largest paradigm shift in many peoples lifetimes. Finding bct was the best thing that happened to many people myself included.
So we must all be grateful for bct and the job it has done to foster the adoption of bct and alts.

I see a few bad eggs spoiled the recent years but they were just capitalizing on some poorly conceived and implemented attempts to prevent spam.

I do believe a smarter control for the bots and spammers would have seen bct grow and harness the energy from all those that will spend hours and hours even if they have little natural ability or creativity for 50 bucks...without letting their negative side infiltrate those that want to contribute quality and reasonable value.

The issue we have now is that alts have noticed bct is dead and no longer launching here.

There isn't really much point to fighting over how the left over scraps of bct turn out.

Perhaps it should gradually aim to forget "size" or number or posters and focus on becoming a tight knit technical community that purely encourages egg heads and boffins. Cut back more to the valuable hardcore and any projects that spring from that.

In that case just delete all sigs and see what real enthusiasts remain.

Tagging should be removed.

Flags alone should remain and they need to be based on objective reliable standards.

Tagging is apart of a wider scam and facilitates scamming in numerous undeniable ways.

Many are of the opinion those supporting or promoting scams are scammers.
Unless its them.

If you were tagged for promoting a proven scam that is different from promoting a tagged project.
Also intention should be evaluated if possible. This is for the currently flawed system.

Bitcointalk has died. I often see 200 people online.  

Bitcointalk simply doesnt provide incentive for people to bother with it now for varying reasons.
Primarily this is financial but also even in terms of being an information source.

Merit killed bitcointalk because the only thing bitcointalk offered over reddit or any other crypto related platform was the ability to earn.
Once the centralized self serving merit system was implemented it destroyed the feeling of opportunity and free speech for most new members.  
I mean initially it was the only show in town and the central hub, but as other platforms eroded this bitcointalk also decided to self destruct.

When you create an environment where proven scammers are given support to punish their whilstle blowers by admin then you know the forum is on the way out.

There are now zero outstanding characters here, good or bad (.. well maybe 2 or 3 exceptions so not zero). Just a bland bunch of non achieving low level grifters and their ass munchers. I mean I often read the board but nothing happens or is said that is even interesting in a bad way.
There seems now among the remaining dregs the aim of reducing all friction.  
Those that detest each other will tolerate one another to eek out the remaining btc dust they can grind out of this place.

A sad demise to a once great forum.
However it did its job, crypto was born here. Whatever it turned into nobody should be ungrateful to bct but it's okay to be disappointed with what it became in the end. It is like the parent that turned into everything it taught you to shun and reject.

It often shocks me how many people in crypto dont know about or have ever been on bct.

Is this project a scam?

I mean taco and the other one said there would be an airdropped quantum resistant coin ...that was airdropped a few years back but instantly broke and forked?

What happened to fixing it ?

Is there  a dev tax and how many btc did they raise at the start?

What development has their been in all these years?

This is one of the most disappointing projects of all time here.

Someone should take this over and give it a serious upgrade.
There is so much more that could be done with smart contracts and nfts for folding achievements.

Taco and the other lay about should do something hand it and all the btc over to some people that can take the project seriously.

I mean doing dev work on other projects and giving the bird to people that paid to suppor this projects it fucked up.

What? Much more than 125btc.

Who cares. People donated. This forum helped people many many many people become millionaires and even billionaires.
Lets not be ungrateful.
I don't see those that donated always going on about this.
I see zero need for a new forum.
So long as the forum is always here and has money to run that's all that really matters.

I mean with its current load it can run on a zx81 or something so I guess we dont have to worry lol

I mean if it came out theymos was spending some on fast cars and women or even wasting some on non essentials?

Go invest in some good projects and you'll see 125BTC isn't as unobtainable as you may think.

The forum is running now and forever let's not worry about it  
When theymos says he ran out of funds and bct is closing then we can freak out.

OG is the only person on this forum that has been on DT that had the guts to use the trust system correctly.

I mean there is no correct way to use this broken trash of a design, but I mean by that that he was not deterred by the knowledge he would have his account and person attacked for doing the right thing.

He knew lauda, tman, owlcatz and their other slobbering scum pals would do all they could to attack him for correctly labelling those scumbags and scammer and protectors and supporters of scammers.  

For that I respect him more than VOD who admitted he dare not give a red tag or even remove his trust includes for this scamming scum simply because he feared they would ruin his own account.

That is cowardice and repulsive.

Vod should not be on DT.

Having said suchmoon deliberately and undeniably acted to prevent a legitimate scam warning on a proven scammer and constantly attempted to cast independently verifiable proof of scamming as lies and trolling.

I would say they are less suited to DT than Vod.

The only other person here Nutildah is the last remaining provably dirty and dangerous willing scam facilitator left on DT.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190369.0

The reader should be privy to all of this information to make an informed decision.

Theymos at the end of the day is responsible for proven scammers and willing scam facilitators for pay being on default trust and using his broken shambles of a trust system to block legitimate scam warnings and punish whistleblowers.  

OG nasty needs to fully man up and stop kissing up to theymos. Ask theymos to simply say red tags and flags must be based on proven scamming, strong evidence of attempting to scam or set up a scam.  Or must be directly linked to financially dangerous behaviors.

Not speaking up and supporting tecshares proposal which actually was exactly what CH has proposed many times but considered it may been received more keenly by someone like tecshare was a mistake, as was letting theymos broker a lauda OG reciprocal red tag retraction. Scammers and the financially dangerous must have red tags there is no messing about.

No other reasons are valid for leaving red tags or flags.
Vod is known for using red tags for personal retribution.
He is admittedly mentally unstable and I dont think it is fair to crush him too much hence his confusion as to why I go lighter on him than others. That and he clearly isn't a greedy person which is novel here.

Still he is not suitable at all for DT.

Anyone can be on DT if theymos had simply said what CH and TS and others had asked for for years.

I guess it is a case of don't hate the players hate the game.

Until there are sensible transparent and objective standards that are applied equally to all members, then most people that weasel their way on to DT and usually chipmixer are going to cheat and abuse the forum for their own ends.

Remove VOD and you'll only get another one from the same self serving greedy and corrupt pool of merit cyclers and socks take his place.

The changes need to happen at an admin level.

Theymos did actually listen to tecshare because I think he did know tecshare was a good guy and the sort of person you want more of in this community. I mean the flagging system was I think rolled in in part due to tecshare.

The problem is once again it was a sloppy and Ill conceived implementation.  One that sought to keep everyone happy.

There is no keeping people happy. Just roll in something transparent, objective and fair.
If some people are unhappy not being able to scam with impunity, block legitimate scam warnings and not being able to crush free speech and punish whistleblowers..... tough shit they can fuck off.

Vod should not be on DT, neither should most of the merit cycling chipmixer scum.

Why do you even need a DT system?
You simply need a set of transparent objective standards. Anyone breaking them is given a red tag and sig banned forever.
Anyone above full member  can report this and anyone above full member  can give them a red tag.

Anyone giving a red tag to those that dont meet those standards is banned.

There should also be punishment for those that try to conflate undeniable and independently verifiable evidence of scamming with trolling. These people are as dangerous as the scammers themselves.  

That's far more decentralized and will solve a lot of the bullshit, take the boot off of free speech and ensure all the other scammer advantages the current systems affords its abusers from inside the merit cycle club are shut off.

Merit should have NEVER have been seen as trust system / chipmixer  strategy credits.

The forum is still fixable from here. I could grow this forum back to a sensible size in no time.
Needs to be action taken at an admin level. This let the most greedy and driven have all the say and influence is hilarious.

It could still be the core hub for crypto. It should be.

Theymos and Lauda.

Certainly interesting.

When laudaM first joined I was 100% sure Lauda was male.
How they discussed hookers and the prices of various hookers in different locations.
Also they could be found swearing like Tman at times but those posts seem to be gone now.

However, in a  few discussions the odd thing they said in private was something I would assume a female would say.
Just the way they said it really struck me as female.

I'm pretty sure Lauda was male initially but that account may have been taken over a female later on.
Lauda wasnt someone you could get a firm grip on. One minute you could he fighting and they would simply vanish.
Then it may admit it was wrong and help you out and do something very generous.
Then just turn up and attack you again when it was nothing to do with them

Lauda was certainly one for making money at any opportunity.
Where as theymos seems to be less bothered and demonstrably very wealthy.
Almost slack about maximising rev.

For sure there is a connection between them. They had a friendship else why was lauda cut so much slack?
This can you all please blacklist lauda message? At first I was fooled it was for real.
But then nothing really happened and lauda continued as before.
Suchmoon lauda moronbozo tman .... tman and lauda join near each other and leave near each other.

I think lauda had both theymos and nullius wrapped around their finger.

I don't think Theymos was lauda but you know they were close.
Who else would get I'm sorry to see you leave after everything? A suboptimal where blatant scammer and trust abuser and plagiarist hypocrite should be undeniably stated.

I mean can you believe the fucking joker lauda was.
They had no shame. I could post provable accounts of how they do the most outrageous and crazy shit and then when busted will claim the those that caught them were the bad guys.
Then say sorry. Then do it all over again.

Then would surprise you and act like nothing happened and do you a big favour when they didnt have to  

I mean I can see why people were intrigued by lauda but to be honest theymos is partly to blame for lauda acting like that because they were given special treatment and allowed to provably abuse the trust system and act out against other members from a position of power that theymos literally reinstated them all back into after the old DT had booted them out.

There is clearly a connection between theymos and lauda, some have said they were related.

Why did laudaM remove the M? Theymos surname apparently is M
That seems weak I think.

Anyway they are still here I believe.

I think if anyone is lauda or knows lauda in RL it is suchmoon.

Suchmoon speaks Croatian.
Suchmoon is pals with theymos.
Suchmoon was the first to oppose the flag based on undeniable evidence of scamming by lauda.
Suchmoon was the first to appear back stab theymos for demanding lauda is blacklisted.
Lauda a big darkcoin holder
Suchmoon apparently ordering a lot of mining equipment around that and mining dark
Suchmoon trying to hide she could speak Croatian
Both have a very caustic and rough tone with nearly everyone.
Those 2 never really fell out? 2 such caustic ego maniacs not falling out?

Even then there are a ton of differences.

Lauda seemed to simply command obedience and seemingly cared little when people would surprisingly refuse her or stand against her decisions. It was then when lauda most seemed female. Lauda never really like to get aggressive or fight at length.

Suchmoon is more diplomatic and sneaky. More careful around core gang members. Where lauda showed little care.
Suchmoon likes to fight and argue at length until you crush it a few times.
Lauda would not lose composure. Suchmoon will lose it and spout crazy shit when pressured enough.
Lauda would apologise and recognize mistakes at times. Suchmoon acts like it never happened.

Lauda and tman not the same person but clearly connected.
Moronbozo is in the mix
Suchmoon is the most likely to be lauda. Again is it male and simply ships things in wifes name.
Are lauda and suchmoon married. I mean that weasel faced husband is exactly what I would imagine lauda to look like.
Or is suchmoon the male.

Theymos is simply a lauda admirer not lauda. That would be disappointing.
Nullius I dont believe is lauda but again clearly admires them.

Its actually more boring without lauda and even tman.
I guess they weren't that bad. Couple of grifters and trust abusers for sure.
But now bruno, TS are gone. Lauda and tman gone. What's left to fight?
Some grimy chipmixer spammers and 2 sneaky weasels that haven't actually provably scammed anyone.
Oh yeah and one trust abusing proven willing scammer facilitator.
Who did get me interested in wax before it took off so there is that.

It's like ufc. I mean the old characters were just more fun.
Tank abbot, kimo, dan Severn, shamrock, polar bear, etc. All freaks and stood out in their own right.
Like the old days of the alt forum. Smooth, monsterer, anonymint, bcx , CFB, fuseler, dinofelis, spot, all arguing and discussing, fighting and joking.  The forum was brilliant back then. Hollowed out now.
Imagine many went on to start huge projects some multi billion dollar.


That's the great thing about this forum. The history. The characters. The success of many of the early ish alt board members.  
I mean hate on the alt board all you want but the most successful characters were big fans and contributors there.

Oh yeah and lauda was super alt involved and knew a fair amount about several of the projects.
Theymos honestly seems to never visit the alt forum.
Theymos also said darkcoin didnt appear to be a scam
Lauda was certain it was a premined scam after dumping their stash of guaranteed not instamined scam coins lol

Who knows who anyone here really is.
Some people could even be famous in RL.  

Lauda is here. Nobody really leaves for good after being strongly involved.
Maybe just lurking maybe under another sock.

Chipmixer crew need to max out their earnings. Don't be too harsh on them.

Besides. Aside from high level technical discussion that serves to solve the trilema  and other such important issues, then what need of the rest here really.

I mean original thought provoking posts that have made any real difference on this forum outside of technical ones are like rocking horse shit. So quality is difficult to accurately assess.

Mostly group think and regurgitated valueless word salads here. Bitcoin forum is okay and not actually that spammy.
The best board may be the politics section now.

The quality has drained away because people have left that were into bitcoin for different reasons than those that turn up now.
The 2011 crowd told the 2013 crowd the forum has gone down hill, who told the 2015 crowd it was a dive now, who told the 2018 noobs they were just a bunch of low functioning greedy spammers.....who told...

While the forum is seen as a pay piggy then the quality will be sparse.

A tiny tiny fraction can make important technical contributions
A tiny fraction want to enjoy a transparent and fair community that rewards those who really bring value. Or just a cool place to hang out with others that are fair and interesting regardless of personal financial enrichment.
Most want money at any cost for as little input as possible.

Lol thanks that was funny.

Are you sure you're not a racist?

Why would you assume the negative comment there refers to his skin color?

It's very racist that you make such an assumption. Do you view black skin as a negative?  Is his race a negative for you?

Mods should ban you because I suspect you're a closet racist and you want to be held to your own standards I'm sure.

Now that you've outted yourself as a racist and as a hater of free speech. You should held to your own standards and banned.

If he thinks that guys face is an unlikely candidate for a phd then that is his opinion. Maybe be hes an expert in correlating facial maps to IQ?  

I mean to you personally gibbons may appear super smart. That's your opinion and I dont care about it really. Since you're clearly a moron.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion until it encourages and promotes actual harm to another.

The only strong argument for racism is the racism you're inadvertently demonstrating.  

Sick and tired of the racism claims to prevent any opinion being voiced.

He thinks the guy doesn't look like a doctor ....that's fine. Let him think what he wants.
If he was white and the same comment was voiced. Would you claim racism? If not think about that.   

Well how about they just make available the data ranking I suggested.

I'm simply attempting to provide what the OP asks for.

I'm simply saying that the algo that claims to = recognition or repute is bogus.

It is good for data ranking but there could be more interesting stats.