That was indeed me, haha.
Thank you, MarkM. I know how valuable those are.
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We tending to close the Facebook pages. We reorganize our doc's. More info' will be come later.
FYI We decided not to close Facebook pages. ICHM will be traded AGAIN, as it was planned earlier. A step closer ... to a reissue OUR CHARM on Stellar Network also. Some Charm reserved for the OByte Ledger, some will be defined on Stellar Network through a similar ICO, what we planned to do earlier in Toronto. I posted on Facebook pages a lot information's about Charm, ZSOZSO (a new Hungarian meme, but MORE as a simple meme!), ... Just read it. I plan to correct the OP posts here also, ..., as I have time for it. NO Hungarian control was defined yet around Charm, ICHM, KISSes, THANKs, ... so we search in a bigger community. The way remain ~ the same, what we planned earlier. |
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I don't see any large sell offers, looks like maybe you just trashed the price of HZ in Lumens on Stellar by selling massive amounts of it very cheap wiping out the existing buy-side way way down in price.
Basically sold to existing buy offers rather than placing large sell offers above highest buy offer so they would still be there when that person wanting to buy large amounts comes looking?
Currently the price of XLM in HZ on Stellar is showing as over 300 HZ per XLM.
Any large sell offers remaining must be way way up beyond the number of offers my client (FoxletStellar) displays?
-MarkM-
I did, what I said, but it exists ZSOZSO also at other users. Maybe they selling it cheaper, as I do. Just check stellar.expert ... I placed some offer higher as Yours with around million HZ against XLM and USDC. Then ZSOZSO-HZ market, 1 HZ = 100 ZSOZSO. As we spoken. It exists not a big amount of ZSOZSO on other hands, but it exists some. I seen, they deleting the offers already. They seen, they selling ZSOZSO against nothing. Just check stellar.expert ... |
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I'm interested in running a node. Are NXT docs useful when learning to do so? Is there something different that needs to be done for HZ?
Also interested in buying HZ coins but sell orders on Stellar are way too thin. I'm willing to send the money first for OTC trades.
Sir! I placed some bigger offers of HZ on the stellar network against USDC and against XLM. If You or somebody near to You wish invest more to HZ, it is simple step from now an. You are also able from now an to buy ZSOZSO against HZ, and sell ZSOZSO against HZ (BOTH on HORIZON (ZSOZSO asset id = 6500180120253112520) and Stellar networks (issuer account = GDZKLEYJ54QUIEYE4DUUOCIJDUS7R5MDW5MCAB3XTUGPJ3C7SSZJRQUC)! Sincerely, ifinta |
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Sorry. It isn't allowed to do here. Just see, what is happening on the original thread (already DONE. not allowed...): https://talk.jelurida.com/t/a-nxt-clone-but-a-living-network-horizon/1217
if it will be deleted there, I will post a bsky.app address to do this giveaway...Use, please THIS link: https://bsky.app/profile/ifinta66.bsky.social/post/3let52nofbc24YES. It is a giveaway of 9 000 000 NHZ!!!!! 
Mainly you need to route incoming connections for the protocol in your modem if running at home, and ideally have dynamic DNS so your home IP address can have a name so other nodes can find its IP address as typically your provider will change your IP address from time to time...
Thanks for the info, MarkM. Will report back once I'm done setting the node up.
If you need a bigger amount of HZ (above 1000000 HZ), pm me... I have some.
Tried to send you a PM, ifinta, but newbies are not allowed to. If you can send me your price per HZ, I'd appreciate it. Ok. I sent You a message. I check messages a week once sure. I try to support every new nodes. I started a giveaway thread on https://talk.jelurida.com/t/a-nxt-clone-but-a-living-network-horizon/1217 to have some new nodes. I hope, the admins not deleting that post, but it is possible. I will check that thread periodically there. If they deleting it, I post it here to inform everybody. The post there: "Hi, I am here to ask for support because a long forgot NXT clone, the HORIZON network. It is in life... Sometimes I check the network, but it is running. It exists not too much node, but a game using that network, so it remained in life. I am ready for a giveaway, for everybody who is able to act for that network. I pay 25000 NHZ (HZ) on HORIZON network to everybody, who send me here an address HERE of that network (up to 3000000 NHZ, it would be then 120 new nice new nodes... If the node in work, You get from me 75000 NHZ as a prize for THAT node!). The params of every already running new node post me , please, here also, to get the prize. It is a web wallet in work. http://lfm.knotwork.com:7776/index.html# I have an unmodified fork of the last source... It has one big known issue, the currencies not well working, but assets working nice. I think it would be beautiful if that network has a lot more support! Many THANKs for every Your support!" ... of course, You are able to send me here also such informations... first a need is a wallet address (NHZ of course). Then some prove about a running node. Be patient. I check randomly this thread, but I try to act for this giveaway in every week min' once. |
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Sorry. It isn't allowed to do here.YES. It is a giveaway of 9 000 000 NHZ!!!!!
Mainly you need to route incoming connections for the protocol in your modem if running at home, and ideally have dynamic DNS so your home IP address can have a name so other nodes can find its IP address as typically your provider will change your IP address from time to time...
Thanks for the info, MarkM. Will report back once I'm done setting the node up.
If you need a bigger amount of HZ (above 1000000 HZ), pm me... I have some.
Tried to send you a PM, ifinta, but newbies are not allowed to. If you can send me your price per HZ, I'd appreciate it. Ok. I sent You a message. I check messages a week once sure. I try to support every new nodes. I started a giveaway thread on https://talk.jelurida.com/t/a-nxt-clone-but-a-living-network-horizon/1217 to have some new nodes. I hope, the admins not deleting that post, but it is possible. I will check that thread periodically there. If they deleting it, I post it here to inform everybody. The post there: "Hi, I am here to ask for support because a long forgot NXT clone, the HORIZON network. It is in life... Sometimes I check the network, but it is running. It exists not too much node, but a game using that network, so it remained in life. I am ready for a giveaway, for everybody who is able to act for that network. I pay 25000 NHZ (HZ) on HORIZON network to everybody, who send me here an address HERE of that network (up to 3000000 NHZ, it would be then 120 new nice new nodes... If the node in work, You get from me 75000 NHZ as a prize for THAT node!). The params of every already running new node post me , please, here also, to get the prize. It is a web wallet in work. http://lfm.knotwork.com:7776/index.html# I have an unmodified fork of the last source... It has one big known issue, the currencies not well working, but assets working nice. I think it would be beautiful if that network has a lot more support! Many THANKs for every Your support!" ... of course, You are able to send me here also such informations... first a need is a wallet address (NHZ of course). Then some prove about a running node. Be patient. I check randomly this thread, but I try to act for this giveaway in every week min' once.
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Mainly you need to route incoming connections for the protocol in your modem if running at home, and ideally have dynamic DNS so your home IP address can have a name so other nodes can find its IP address as typically your provider will change your IP address from time to time...
Thanks for the info, MarkM. Will report back once I'm done setting the node up.
If you need a bigger amount of HZ (above 1000000 HZ), pm me... I have some.
Tried to send you a PM, ifinta, but newbies are not allowed to. If you can send me your price per HZ, I'd appreciate it. Ok. I sent You a message. I check messages a week once sure. I try to support every new nodes. I started a giveaway thread on https://talk.jelurida.com/t/a-nxt-clone-but-a-living-network-horizon/1217 to have some new nodes. I hope, the admins not deleting that post, but it is possible. I will check that thread periodically there. If they deleting it, I post it here to inform everybody. The post there: "Hi, I am here to ask for support because a long forgot NXT clone, the HORIZON network. It is in life... Sometimes I check the network, but it is running. It exists not too much node, but a game using that network, so it remained in life. I am ready for a giveaway, for everybody who is able to act for that network. I pay 25000 NHZ (HZ) on HORIZON network to everybody, who send me here an address HERE of that network (up to 3000000 NHZ, it would be then 120 new nice new nodes... If the node in work, You get from me 75000 NHZ as a prize for THAT node!). The params of every already running new node post me , please, here also, to get the prize. It is a web wallet in work. http://lfm.knotwork.com:7776/index.html# I have an unmodified fork of the last source... It has one big known issue, the currencies not well working, but assets working nice. I think it would be beautiful if that network has a lot more support! Many THANKs for every Your support!" Sorry. It isn't allowed to do here.... of course, You are able to send me here also such informations... first a need is a wallet address (NHZ of course). Then some prove about a running node. Be patient. I check randomly this thread, but I try to act for this giveaway in every week min' once. |
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Mainly you need to route incoming connections for the protocol in your modem if running at home, and ideally have dynamic DNS so your home IP address can have a name so other nodes can find its IP address as typically your provider will change your IP address from time to time...
Thanks for the info, MarkM. Will report back once I'm done setting the node up.
If you need a bigger amount of HZ (above 1000000 HZ), pm me... I have some.
Tried to send you a PM, ifinta, but newbies are not allowed to. If you can send me your price per HZ, I'd appreciate it. Ok. I sent You a message. I check messages a week once sure. |
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I'm interested in running a node. Are NXT docs useful when learning to do so? Is there something different that needs to be done for HZ?
Also interested in buying HZ coins but sell orders on Stellar are way too thin. I'm willing to send the money first for OTC trades.
If you need a bigger amount of HZ (above 1000000 HZ), pm me... I have some. If You need a Horizon account, You are able to use a web wallet also. It is safe enough: http://lfm.knotwork.com:7776/index.html# |
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I'm interested in running a node. Are NXT docs useful when learning to do so? Is there something different that needs to be done for HZ?
Also interested in buying HZ coins but sell orders on Stellar are way too thin. I'm willing to send the money first for OTC trades.
If you need a bigger amount of HZ (above 1000000 HZ), pm me... I have some. |
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I'm interested in running a node. Are NXT docs useful when learning to do so? Is there something different that needs to be done for HZ?
Also interested in buying HZ coins but sell orders on Stellar are way too thin. I'm willing to send the money first for OTC trades.
I posted this earlier. You are able to buy some ZSOZSO against USDC on Stellar Network, I make manual a transfer that ZSOZSO to Horizon network and you are able to exchange it for HZ on Horizon network. I have on both network an account with ZSOZSO and HZ. The rates are actual well defined on exchanges... Here is the process: |
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It is a question, how we are able to burn not more used HZ and acc's later.......... It would be a nice step for the market.
We should make then a new version of HZ, but we have the sources. Not an impossible mission, sure.
RFC-HZ-NEW-0001: If an account don't move any asset in the next year (2025), it will be removed forever in the next version of HZ.
A request for comment, please!
I think that would be called fraud , deception , theft ,fraud by wire and some other charges might be added so the developers or powers that be behind it might end up like SBF doing a lot of jailtime. I know this is HZ thread but I had NXT coins but mynxtwallet does not work anymore. Does anyone have an idea how to recover it? TIA "jailtime"? Why? Because new kind of rules? It is an open ledger. It uses resources. It needs real servers, nodes. If somebody not using the account, it means for the whole network a kind of attack. It is simple to make a rule, about a kind of tax, if somebody no any other transaction made. That tax MUST be payed, and then the account can remain. If NOT, then that account brakes the ledger rules, THE LAW, so it is legal to delete it. The network can use that HZ's for example to pay some extras to well working nodes. A such step not simple legal, it is a needed step against possible attacks on the internet. I am ready to give You support because Your NXT over the superprof account. The first 45 minute is free. I propose a lesion for 3 hours. You will be able to reach me over a phone. Here is the link: https://www.superprof.com/help-you-cryptocurrency-world-any-questions-this-business-since-2011.html |
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Okay. It exists a web wallet at a node? Maybe it is enough for our business. Just now not simple to download the whole chain. It means a lot time... I note here, what I did... I use a Windows 10 system with Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL). I use Debian app on it. Bookworm. I installed Java jdk 8, because it a must for the old source of HZ. The source I get from my github repo, as usual. compile.sh and it compiled without issue. Java 8 for Bookworm: Please check also: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/749903/how-can-i-install-java-8-on-debian-12-bookwormwget http://www.mirbsd.org/~tg/Debs/sources.txt/wtf-bookworm.sourcessudo mkdir -p /etc/apt/sources.list.d sudo mv wtf-bookworm.sources /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ sudo apt update sudo apt install openjdk-8-jdk github repo: git clone https://github.com/ifinta/hz-sourceIt can be started with run.sh, but not yet working, because I need to open ports from the Windows Subsystem for Linux to the world... ~~~~~~~~~~~ it was here a week pause, sure I got some serious issues, but IT EXISTS a known bug in the networking of WSL... WSL don't let run init and it don't detects, that the Windows got an another networking environment, for example, the Windows system was in sleep state, and woke up It was before Windows 10 a known issue, and MAYBE Windows 11 solved it. MAYBE I can't test it just now... It means, Windows should be switched off, and next day should be started. The WSL should be well closed and started also. Not for a well server, sure. I don't want to install a Debian, I don't want a 1000 years old Java Dev Kit on the Windows, so I decided to restart my "server" every day I would like try WSL well, as I said earlier. Some useful Windows commands: netsh interface portproxy add v4tov4 listenport=7776 listenaddress=127.0.0.1 connectport=7776 connectaddress=172.25.23.6 The address of 172.25.23.6 on the side of Windows changing randomly, of course. WSL don't detect it, I hope, clear for everybody, why it isn't a good decision to use the system. But. route print, ping, tracert, ... wsl.exe -l -v to see the Name, State, ... of the distro. wsl.exe -t Debian to make a restart of the WSL. It should be well stopped, of course, before you do it. If you exit the app, the process don't exiting. It remain in the life in the background. Nice. If you don't have the state of the system in "running", then it won't be restarted, of course. Nice. netsh advfirewall firewall add rule name="<Name of the port...>" dir=in action=allow protocol=TCP localport=<port...> It isn't tested well yet. Just to remember. netsh firewall show state wsl.exe hostname -I netsh interface ipv4 show config Some useful Debian command (bookworm): ip address show, ping, traceroute, nc (netcat), ... What is maybe useful, that the HOSTNAME of WSL system will be an subdomain of mshome.net ... Interesting thing, because the domain, the mshome.net is a well public ip address, and the <HOSTNAME>.msome.net get a PRIVATE IP... http://lfm.knotwork.com:7776/index.html#You can use this link to sign into the Horizon Network. It isn't a node required then from your side, you can use the link with a browser, and it working well up to now... I stop this task for today. I continue it later or after the Holydays, maybe at Newyear. Happy Holydays ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ just another pause ... Just to know, that I had a Debian on my stolen notebook. The network worked WELL with iphone 11 over USB cable. I started it, I plugged in my (stolen) iphone 11, and everything was well, worked top. Just now with Windows 10 I get hourly issues, because the connection between iphone and my laptop....... It is light to detect, but. But it isn't a server, sure. What I neeeeed, what should I ask from a such Windows system, but really? A client. Sure. I know. The Debian IS A server system. Okay. I let this Windows 10 run on this notebook. ((I thinking about to install Windows 11, but THE INSTALLATION NEEEEEDS a well and stable internet access for a (some) whole day(s), maybe ONLY 18 hours, ...... I know........... I thinking about to install Java 8 SDK on this Windows, ... Or to install Debian, but THIS Windows a well piece, sure, me like, sure.......)) BUT I NEEEED Horizon Network, Galactic Milieu, ... sure!!! |
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I joined also - to forge Horizon...
It was a failure to forge Horizon with 12 500 000 HZ?  ((I transferred a little more also to my server, but it shouldn't yet count in the forging amount, I think)) As always - last times - I think, Horizon chain was forked to quickly. I stopped my server. Me seems lfm.knotwork.com and ufbsh.no-ip.org should be restarted also. Any hints? You can have my IP. I trust all of you. I don't care. I think you all run nodes just like me in this meta game. Maybe we need a meta like file (like .TOML) or something to show where Horizon comes from... Or where its locally stored on each of our own accounts =P I dunno. I suppose Poloniex escrow@poloniex Polonidex still takes from this network as a web based exchange and I suppose locked threads or delisted KYC exchanges might make certain versions of HZ software we use not readable forwards and backwards but if we all just admit we're in this together and CORs (Cross Origin Resource sharing) between a HZ/BTC pair exists... I mean just click the link still active over the web browser and TCP/IP and see where it forwards you: https://www.poloniex.com/exchange/#btc_hzI've said this so many times. It's a waiting game. I am sure there are easter eggs, or bootstraps, or tip bots we could use somewhere. Or perhaps we already have - and that's why my local app data for Keybase's desktop app is always part of the nhz.log file in my roaming folder on Windows everytime I start up my Horizon Server. Sharing is caring So either lets all ADMIT what this actually is. Or lets all help Dan figure out how to be more productive in helping other normies from "the planet known as earth" find opportunities they just cannot accept to exist. IFINTA: Give me some info about what OS you use, what software you're running and I will try and answer even though you are a fellow character in this game and I am probably just amusing you by posting my offer to help lol here is a "working" link - about Horizon https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/next-horizon/Maybe - with a little bigger node count - it would be possible to change the "inactive" attribute on the Coinmarketcap ... We have Stellar, as a possible Exchange for Horizon - with an Stellar Asset, but it is a possibility to buy / sell it. Just a remark here: The task at Coinmarketcap is today also an opportunity - for users of Horizon Network, sure. The link above in life, as it was in life earlier also... |
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Weird. I restarted it. The pool is two tasks only one typically dies like that.
I suspect the one that died was the web-page not the actual pool since blocks had continued going along fine and leases to the pool were still happening and so on.
I never even thought to look at that page's timestamp of latest blocks because in the actual nodes blocks were still working fine and still forged by the pool.
I am not seeing any new nodes though so whatever yours is named it doesn't seem to be showing up to the others.
-MarkM-
It is already good. The restart worked well. Many THANKs! Happy Holydays! |
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I think, the http://lfm.knotwork.com:8810/ page not working well since 17th November this year... I started to support forging with some of my HZ-s, the network running well, I see peers, the leasing was successful, but the page above not detecting anything from actual forging events...... |
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One year is far too fast a timeout.
I think DMDv4 is proposing accounts idle for ten full years start to evapourate over time maybe or something like that, but any such ideas rebel against the immutability of blockchain.
Bitcoin seems to work fine with uknown numbers of "lost coins" out there.
Not to mention that any such rule could force e.g. Satoshi to put life on the line to avoid having coins in effect stolen, if Satoshi isn't already dead.
No way of knowing how many people in how many different coins and blockchains would have their life at risk were they to go ahead and move any of their coins or tokens due to some such stupid and possibly outright dangerous or deadly rule, especially one introduced after the fact rather than in the original pre-genesis "whitepaper" or whatever.
Maybe it could even be argued that even suggesting such a retrofitted rule ought to be taken as possibly indicating being out to "get" someone who is at the moment protected by their coins not having moved lately or ever...
If you are up for coding though there are glitches in HORIZON that could do with fixing, such as its so called currencies subsystem is broken enough we ended up having to categorise everything as assets.
-MarkM-
Okay. It is an opinion, sure. I wait more opinions about the RFC above. If exists a wish/bug list for HZ source, I would like to get it. I work on my node today... maybe I install the game also. What HW requirements need that game? How can I define an asset in it? |
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It is not technically necessary to run a Linux subsystem under Windows to run it on Windows is it? Shouldn't the necessary version of java be directly available for Windows? Seems like once upon a time the big point of java had been it runs everywhere so that stuff written for it can run everywhere? Thanks for doing all this though, HORIZON used to be a great place for shopping for bargains after each re-calculation of the Latest Rates, which calculation by the way is running as I type, the mid-month calculation as it were... - MarkM- I test this Debian on the Windows. Me like it. It working well up to now. It give me for servers a well secure place. Yes, Java is well compatible everywhere with Java, with some differences as usual YES, HORIZON is top, of course. HORIZON is the only NXT clone, which reached this age! Or? And HORIZON has a well distribution, sure. The community should be well informed only. It is a question, how we are able to burn not more used HZ and acc's later.......... It would be a nice step for the market. We should make then a new version of HZ, but we have the sources. Not an impossible mission, sure. RFC-HZ-NEW-0001: If an account don't move any asset in the next year (2025), it will be removed forever in the next version of HZ. A request for comment, please! |
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