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Sto see tice oporezivanja vezanog za Bitcoin, nemoj da pratis kako je kod ostalih. Tu ti je merodavno samo stanje u drzavi gde zivis, pretpostavljam Srbija. Zakon o kriptovalutama see trenutno uredjuje i jos uvek nemamo precizno uradjene propise vezano za taj deo.
Nije da pratim kako je kod ostalih ali takav slucaj recimo, ili ako bih povezao racun firme na cex.io recimo, tada bi se tacno videlo kada se uplati novac iskljucivo od btc zarade. Kako je sada vreme "zakljucavanja" i svi su u kucama, provode mnogo vise vremena online, mozda je sad bas najbolje vreme za razvoj online biznisa.
To da, ali sam mislio na ceo deo oko finansija. Ne bitno za model koji ces primenjivati, samo ti kazem da ces doci do tga da ti je potrebna firma za to. Potencijalni oglasivac, firma/preduzetnik ce hteti zvanican racun kako bi u knjigama pravdao rashod. To je u vecini slucajeva, posebno ako je neko malo ozbiljniji igrac, nema sanse da ce to biti u keshu ili da ce se neko cimati do banke tebi da posalje lovu. To ti ne mozes da uradis bez aktivne firme.
Sad dok imas samo 80tak subjekata dodatih je sve ok, ali sta kad budes trebao da dodajes jos neke funkcije, kada zazivi sve a ti si od pocetka pogresno postavio celu stvar. Tada ce ti to znacajno komplikovati ceo posao.
Koliko znam, kada registrujes domen, vecina registara nudi i neki lagan free hosting, sto moze biti dovoljno za tvoje pocetne potrebe, zasto nisi tako nesto probao? Lako ces se ti kasnije prosiriti, mnogo lakse nego kad moras da menjas i provajdera i strukturu sajta.
To da, zato trenutno vise gadjam na one manje zanatlije i str, itd... Ne forsiram ni jedan veci lanac prodavnica tipa IDEA, zato i nudim dzabe, bas da izbegnem to cimanje do banke jer samim tim su vece sanse da neko prihvati. Sto se tice hosting/domen, domen sam uzeo na unlimited.rs, ne nude dzabe hosting ni na odredjeno vreme ali su korektni sto se tice cene apsolutno, takodje oni rade prebacivanje na njihov hosting kada prvi put prebacujes sajt, a strukturu sam osmislio bas tako da bi bila laka za manipulisanje bez zajebancija. Ne bih tako lako odbacivao mogucnost AdSense zarade. Na primer, 300 posetilaca dnevno moze da ti donese 100eur mesecno a to funkcionalno ne utice bitno na tvoj biznis model.
Nije da sam lako odbacio, ali fora je da bi zaradio na reklame njihove nemo mora da klikne na njih, a ja sam na ~100 klikova dnevno. Pricao sam i sa burazerom koji se bavi marketingom i kaze da nije bas toliko dobar. Moze da stoji tu jer ne pravi lom niti zahteva ista i pasivno donosi nesto sa strane, mada sve opet zavisi od sajta i ciljne grupe. |
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Mozda ste me malo pogresno razumeli, a mozda sam i ja malo zbrzao sve. Sto se tice oporezivanja: webtricks:
For example,
You received 0.05 BTC worth 750 EUR as a donation on May 19th, 2019. You kept btc in your wallet for 1 year and the value of 0.05 BTC rose to 1000 EUR. Now you sold BTC for 1000 EUR on May 18th, 2020. So, you will report 750 EUR as your business earnings and 250 EUR as your capital gain. Pa pazi, zavisi od toga kako ko shvati korisnost za zajednicu. kao sto rekoh, hocu da najdem (pa koliko god smarao) sto vise ljudi cak i najmanje zanatlije, upravo zbog toga kako bismo izbegli trazenje imenika, 200 vizit kartica i toga. Tako da korisno za zajednicu, nije da nije. Ako imate poslovni model, ali potrebno je vreme da postane odrziv, onda napravi predlog za potencijalne investitore kojima cete zauzvrat ponuditi nesto, na primer, besplatno oglasavanje na sajtu i slicno
Razmisljao sam i o tome, ali dacu vremena jos koji mesec da se ljudi oporave od ovog celog haosa pa da vidim i za to. Tretnutno s obzirom da nemam rashoda jer nisam kupovao widgete i ostala sranja za sajt nego sve sam sam radio, nije mi toliko frka da zaradim sto pre, samo je bitno da se vremenom ljudi odazovu. Nakon mesec dana aktivnog rada, dosao sam do 81 "oglasa", tako da sam pocetak i nije los. Ali opet, nisam naplacivao nista jer mi je trenutno cilj da nagruvam broj ljudi na sajtu.
Mislim da je bolje da ne planiras Bitcoin kao sredstvo placanja za sada. Bar u tom slucaju koji si planiras. Vrlo je komplikovano za preduzetnike/firme da ti plate u BTC i da kasnije pravdaju te troskove. Takodje bez registrovane firme, tesko da ce ici to. Nece niko da se cima sa tobom i keshom.
Svakako kreni sad bez komercijalizacije, pa cepaj nekih godinu dana da napravis nesto dobro, onda ces znati da li ti se isplati da se registrujes ili da batalis.
Registracija domena i hosting je bukvalno par hiljada dinara na godisnjem nivou, valjda si spreman i ti malo da ulozis u svoj potencijalni biznis.
Donacije, su necija dobra volja da ti pomogne. To nije realan plan za biznis, jer od toga tesko da mozes da zivis, niti da racunas na taj prihod. Uvek je drugaciji iznos (ako ga bude). Posle ce da se svede da prosjacis za neki dinar kako bi funkcionisao. Lakse ti je da dodas neki ads servis (AdSense ili slicno) i tu ces u zavisnosti od poseta i kvaliteta zaraditi nesto, bez da molis bilo koga za donaciju.
Mislim da je bolje da ne planiras Bitcoin kao sredstvo placanja za sada.
Placanje u btc bi bukvalno bilo tu kao moguca opcija, ne kao moranje. Svakako kreni sad bez komercijalizacije, pa cepaj nekih godinu dana da napravis nesto dobro, onda ces znati da li ti se isplati da se registrujes ili da batalis.
Registracija domena i hosting je bukvalno par hiljada dinara na godisnjem nivou, valjda si spreman i ti malo da ulozis u svoj potencijalni biznis.
S obzirom da sam poceo pre nekih mesec/dva, ne naplacujem trenutno nista cisto kako bih privukao ljude u samom startu, svakako jos uvek radim na tome kako bi ceo biznis model isao, da li jednokratna uplata, godisnje,itd... Trenutno mi najbolje lezi jednokratna uplata i cao, da ne misli niko posle o tome sto se tice samog ubacivanja, a sto se tice hostinga/domena, domen sam zakupio ali hosting iskreno nemam jos toliko potrebe, pored toga sto nemam php na gitbuh sve ostalo je sasvim ok. Donacije, su necija dobra volja da ti pomogne. To nije realan plan za biznis, jer od toga tesko da mozes da zivis, niti da racunas na taj prihod. Uvek je drugaciji iznos (ako ga bude). Posle ce da se svede da prosjacis za neki dinar kako bi funkcionisao. Lakse ti je da dodas neki ads servis (AdSense ili slicno) i tu ces u zavisnosti od poseta i kvaliteta zaraditi nesto, bez da molis bilo koga za donaciju.
Nisam ni planirao da se sve svede na donacije, one su upravo tu u slucaju necije dobre volje ili cisto kao podrska projekta. Reg sam se za AdSense ali je to, iskreno, sranje. Tako da na to i ne racunam bas ali svakako te reklame bleje na sajtu. Izvinite ako sam negde nesto pogresno napisao ili pisao dva puta, zakovao do 4am pa ne razmisljam ni ja dobro vise.  |
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Bots evolve too.  I'm sure their creators would have added that feature once server masters started detecting them. If a member is only being paid per task, there is no justification for harassing them outside of the task assignment. This is something you can do as you work on other activities. Absolutely, but this just means that that person would have to be on their pc because captcha/message confirmation will be completely random. Oh, from the first reply post I understood that you'd need people to be on their pc all the time (hence the video call), if it's per task, then you really don't need any kind of supervision. Just give them an estimated time to complete it. lol |
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I did not went through all those 4 pages with comments of your previous thread but I read about you were thinking to use the Webcam as a proof to be physically online . There's a software (probably more than one) called Fake Webcam, which creates a virtual Webcam device and let you choose to play a video files as a fake real stream. This option is not good, actually it's very difficult to prove that there's a person behind the PC and it's not automated. Fingerprint readers might be a better idea, every few minuets you need to swipe your finger through the reader.
30min -1hour captcha, like having1-2min to solve it, would be good enough imo. Maybe even everyone could be on discord or any other group chat app where you could just do random checks with either voice or chat reply confirmation. Anyways, random way of checking on people is the best option if you don't have a direct constant supervision. EDIT: I used to be a gamemaster on an old world of warcraft private server and the method we would use to see if someone's a bot is watching his movement and whispering him randomly. Everyone who's actually controlling the character will reply in a few seconds, but the a bot won't reply at all. So I'd suggest a pop up chat box or something like that rather than a captcha. |
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Pozdrav! Radim na sajtu trenutno i gledam da ubacim i btc kao nacin placanja, iako nasi matorci pojma nemaju o tome, dolaze mladi kojima nece biti tesko da se snadju. Radi se o sajtu koji bi prikupljao preduzetnike iz apsolutno svih sfera zanimanja, jer mi je bilo muka od guglanja varioca i majstora za kotao, ventile, limariju i onoga "Cek da pitam komsiju za broj Zivorada koji mozda jos uvek radi to". Da li mozda neko zna kako i da li se oporezuje btc zarada kod nas?
Takodje s obzirom da je trenutno sve dzabe (ubacivanje na sajt, info-kartica i stranica), zelim da naglasim da ako neko mozda zeli da donira, bio bih veoma zahvalan. Jer trenutno hosting je na github a njihov hosting ne dozvoljava php. Svakako planiram da napravim i kao stranicu zahvalnice svima koji bi donirali nesto. Tipa galerija ikonica ili cega god.
Naravno svaki prelog ili kritika su dobrodosli.
P.s. nisam nov u celoj kripto prici, bavio sam se trejdovanjem btc i raznim alt-coinima i lurkovao forumom od 2012 negde.
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Since I have to report all earnings, will payments in BTC make a problem if I don't convert them to eur and deposit them into business bank account? Anyone has any experience with that? Can I do something more to bring attention of the masses to btc? Any solid ideas?
I guess not. Also relatively depends on the BTC related laws in your country. You definitely will have to register your company with the Tax department and after converting your BTC to EUR you can pay taxes on your earnings. Should I open up an account and register with my business bank account? I'm really unsure about this and really don\t want to be having any problems later on.
Register where? If you're starting a business, you'd need to definitely register with the Income Tax department of your country. Every country has its own rules and regulations so search the procedures in your country. p.s. since I'll be accepting donations in btc I was thinking of making like a "thank you" page where all who donated can send a 200x200 image, or whatever they'd like to, to be made into a gallery of supporters. Any thoughts about that?
Umm again, check your laws dude. How tf you expect the community to answer questions without providing relevant information? In my country, donations are not taxed. This topic is mostly resolved and it was 5am when I started the thread, so I was a little sleep deprived. I'm going with exchange from BTC to EUR right after donation and donations here are taxed from 2.5%-5% depending on the amount. As I've said, it's resolved I just forgot to lock the thread. Cheers! |
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Quick edit: Not everyone buying documents for illegal activities. I do not accept creating accounts for betting for something illegal.
People are not using them for criminal activities, but as everything (including bitcoin) can use them for criminal activities.
No one knows, no one cares (at least the people who sell their ID's).
This whole thing sounds like "Yes, there is aliens but I never seen one".
>Not everyone buying documents for illegal activities. Read that again and think about it for just a second. lol |
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maybe you're not worried about your privacy, but your donors can be. they may want to remain anonymous and not want their pictures to be shown on a random website.
I didn't mean it like that, they can but don't have to. They don't have to put anything if they don't want to, I meant that they can put whatever they want in those 200x200. Not necessarily a mug shot style pic lol Most of the countries follow this practice for capital gains/loss. However, the number of years to carry forward the losses differ from country to country. I am not European and have no idea if the practice is same in OP's country or not. So it is advisable to consult expert in your country.
There's literally nothing about crypto here, tho I assume that exchanging those btc to eur right away would eliminate any capital loss or gain. |
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PS: Even if you use non-custodial wallet, people can easily track how many bitcoins you are receiving as donations if you place the bitcoin address publicly. In such cases, it would be better to report bitcoins received as earnings as per [1].
Yeah, I went a little through how donations are taxed here, it's up to 5% depending on the amount. Reporting the donations would probably be the best thing since the tax % is somewhat low. I'm not what much worried about privacy since later on everyone could see that I'm the owner. |
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I've made a website, something similar to yellow pages, but with graphics and much more info. Think of it as a business catalog and since there's a lot of businesses that accept bitcoin as payment, I'd love to slap a little shiny btc logo on their info-card to make it stick out and get people wondering what that it and I'd also be accepting payments and donations in btc.
Since I have to report all earnings, will payments in BTC make a problem if I don't convert them to eur and deposit them into business bank account? Anyone has any experience with that? Can I do something more to bring attention of the masses to btc? Any solid ideas?
Should I open up an account and register with my business bank account? I'm really unsure about this and really don\t want to be having any problems later on.
p.s. since I'll be accepting donations in btc I was thinking of making like a "thank you" page where all who donated can send a 200x200 image, or whatever they'd like to, to be made into a gallery of supporters. Any thoughts about that?
p.p.s wasn't really sure where to start this topic, sorry in advance if I'm mistaken.
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 Jesus, dude. |
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Is bitcointalk forum not about learning and sharing ideas anymore? My posts are removed and the posts are good enough, are admins going strict on members of the forum because of something else? Here is an example of a good post of mine but still removed and my account was ban for it, I know the difference between contributing posts and junk posts, what is going on?  I've been lurking this forum since ~2012, made an account once but never actually used it, now I've made a new one (this one) because I've started my website (working on papers to have it officially registered) and wanted to implement btc into my website as a mean of payment. Now that you know that I'm not a newbie, I'll tell you about your post. I'd consider that post useless because the beginner section is nothing else but an echo chamber. Same questions and same answers that could have been given with the simple google search. Based on your post, I'd say that the whole topic was pointless and was overflown with spam, one line answers and those same answers I've been reading for the past 8 years. Shitposting in newbie section won't get you anything. |
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