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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Spark: New codebase for a new crypto - Fund raising [3/4] on: March 27, 2014, 09:44:21 PM



Hello everyone,

We have been trying to settle this whole thing behind the scenes, but it's gotten far too messy to handle.


Here's how we are going to proceed from here:

First step: We give everyone who invested their funds back, and we'll get our escrow funds back. You can check in the blockchain for proof that the btc have been given back. We're not here to screw with people's money.

Second step: We found someone who has experience launching a very successful cryptocurrency in the past. He's willing to help us get it right. We're going to take a bit to work on having real, better plans for launch.

We'll do a thread like this again once we're ready, but this time with better proof of Spark being legitimate (probably a video of Spark in action, a limited demo wallet for people to play with, something like that), and we'll find an escrow who understands how to work with us, or not use an escrow at all.


If you think you can help us in any way, or just want to discuss Spark before the launch, feel free to send us private messages on bitcointalk. Until then, the IPO is closed and the launch postponed indefinitely.

We will keep the current name and brand, even though this thread probably hurt our image more than everything else.



See you later,

The future is now,

- The Spark team -

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2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Spark: New codebase for a new crypto - Fund raising [3/4] on: March 25, 2014, 01:15:56 PM
                           




I'm going to invest. The only strange this is this sentence:

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Most escrow services and private escrows turned us down, as they do not like the idea of handling this kind of business.

Why would they turn you down, but accept some random crap/clonecoins at the same time?


Here is how our escrow search went:

Step one: Finding a serious escrow that does other things than bitcoin. This was actually a very hard step, there needs to be a good index of escrows somewhere. We'd have even been ready to pay to see a detailed lists of escrows, their trust rating, and what kind of business they accept.

Step two: Having the escrow accept us. Most escrows did not want to be associated with IPOs or with people who decide to remain anonymous because they are the ones who look bad if the IPO fails or ends up being a scam. We offered a testnet wallet to prove that we were real, but all but two didn't even want it and stopped their business with us at this step.

Step three: We had only two escrow options left. One of them was not looking serious enough however. We believe that he was probably a scammer, as he was offering to do it for 0% fee and without any cost. In our eyes, this was extremely suspicious, and felt like he was just waiting for an opportunity to run away with some big money.

Step four: The escrow service we were left with is a semi-automated service. For small escrows, they have a website, but they are ready to handle big escrows like IPOs for us in exchange for 1btc in advance and a fee of 1%. We also have to keep track of investors ourselves, and tell them who to give the Sparks to. This might sound like a lot of negative things, but there is a much bigger positive with them: They were  willing to give us a real life identity and prove (through a bank payment of 0.01$) that they are the two persons they say they are.

Communication with them is not easy as they are in an asian timezone and are slow at writing english in real time chat, but when we take our time we can understand ourselves just fine. We did not even ask for the real life identity verification, they offered it themselves, and we appreciated that gesture a lot.




It seems like cryptocurrencies that are not established yet and IPOs have gained an association with scams, and when looking for an escrow you are caught in the middle of this. In their eyes, you are just like the rest, a scammer trying to make quick money. Even after offering to give them a working version of our wallet on testnet, they mostly refused and dismissed us as they do not want to be attached to something that is not big like bitcoin.




                           




One question I have for the developers is how many total coins will there be? You mention in your earlier thread that one billion will be distributed initially, which could now be outdated information. Please clarify.

From this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525419 : « There will be 1 000 000 000 (one billion) sparks distributed initially, with nothing at all premined or reserved for the developers »

This information has not changed since, we will stick with this number.


Yes, I saw that. It says INITIALLY. I wanted you to confirm the TOTAL lifetime amount of coins. Is the total one billion? Thank you.


Yes, with no mining, the number of coins can not go up.

However, as we mentioned on the original post, there is an annual 10% proof of stake inflation of the total amount of coins. This gives a small advantage to people who decide to have their Sparks in a wallet (even locked/cold storage) where they can hoard them or spend them in shops and e-commerces. The reason for this is that we want to encourage people to use wallets for their Sparks instead of keeping them on exchanges.

The PoS minting is done every day (about 0.028% inflation per day), and is the only way new Sparks can be introduced. It would not even be possible for us to insert more Sparks in the economy without making a hard fork, as only the cloud with the id 0 can contain new Sparks, and that cloud has already been generated and locked.


The stake generation will only start after a bit over one year, on the 1st of May 2015. Until then, the number of coins in circulation will be exactly one billion, not less not more.



                           
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Spark: New codebase for a new crypto - Fund raising [3/4] on: March 25, 2014, 09:29:11 AM
                           



can we have a video/screenshot/code snippet??

We wanted to keep everything private until release / have everything be a full surprise, but it is obvious that this is not how trust is generated. Bad/naive thinking on our part. We are better developers than social engineers or communication specialists, we'll try to improve on that.


Here is a screenshot of the Windows build of the Spark wallet. We went for a minimalistic style due to being graphically impaired, but the wallet can easily be skinned over / redesigned once we're past release and people offer us better looking graphics:




No point in giving a screenshot of our minimalistic wallet (sparkyd), as text in command line is not exactly what I'd call exciting. We'll add this screenshot to the main post.



As for the code snippet, we had a hard time finding a bit of code that fits the following requirements:
1) Does not expose any of our core working methods before release
2) Is not totally worthless, like a whole file of exception codes or config

We went with the class that handles remote calls:

Code:
# Remote call to another Spark client or node
class Remote(object):
    def __init__(self, cloudid, cloud=None, ident=None, ssf=None, maxwait=15, *args, **kwargs):
        if cloud is None: cloud = 'default'
        if ident is None: ident = ''
        if isinstance(cloudid, six.text_type): cloudid = cloudid.encode('utf-8')
        if isinstance(ident, six.text_type): ident = ident.encode('utf-8')
        if isinstance(cloud, six.text_type): cloud = cloud.encode('utf-8')
        if isinstance(ssf, six.text_type): ssf = ssf.encode('utf-8')
        super(Proxy, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs)
        self.neutralizer = 0
        self.cloudid = cloudid
        self.ssf = ssf
        self.cloud = cloud
        self.ident = ident
        self.maxwait = maxwait

    def __getattr__(self, name):
        if self.ssf is not None:
            name = '.'.join([self.ssf, name])
        return self.__class__(self.cloudid, self.cloud, self.ident, name, self.maxwait)

    def __call__(self, *args, **kwargs):
        if args and kwargs:
            raise ValueError(u"Should and can not encode both parameters")
        if self.ssf is None:
            raise ValueError(u"Must specify")

        self.neutralizer = (self.neutralizer+1) & 0xffffffff
        hash_ = sha1(b''.join([self.cloudid, self.ssf, self.cloud, Lint(self.neutralizer).serialize(4), time.ctime(), Lint(randrange(2**32)).serialize(4)])).digest()
        id_ = Lint.deserialize(StringIO(hash_[:4]), 4)

        sparkinfo = dumps(id_, self.ssf, kwargs or args)
        headers = {'Content-Type' : 'application/json'}
        reply = requests.post(self.cloudid, auth=(self.cloud, self.ident), data=sparkinfo, maxwait=self.maxwait)
        if reply.status_code >= 500:
            reply.raise_for_status()
        response = loads(reply.content)

        if 'id' not in response or response['id'] != id_:
            raise ResponseError(u"Unexpected reply")
        if ('error' in response and response['error'] is not None and
            'result' in response and response['result'] is not None):
            raise ResponseError(u"Can't have a response and an error at once")

        if 'error' in response and response['error'] is not None:
            raise Fault('code' in response['error'] and response['error']['code'] or -1, 'message' in response['error'] and response['error']['message'] or '', 'description' in response['error'] and response['error']['description'] or None)
        elif 'result' in response:
            return response['result']
        else:
            raise ResponseError(u"Must have at least a response or an error")




                           




How can we make sure that the BTC address is btc-asia's address? Can the escrow make any public announcement of the whole operation?

Also. btc-asia-escrow@hotmail.com? hotmail, really? There is a website btc-asia.com, is it their website? Why the hotmail then?

They try to distance themselves from direct involvement in any operations they are in. This was a major contention point between us and them, but we have just asked them to post something on their website if possible regarding the Spark IPO.

A specific email inbox for the Spark IPO is meant to be opened by them, but we're waiting for confirmation that it's operational. I added it to the main post, awaiting confirmation from them now. Timezones and family life make communication between us difficult, we will do our best. We will delete this email address until they confirm it is working.




                           




you say you will not delete criticism yet you deleted my post. If you delete it again i will report you and leave you a nice negative trust.

This was a misunderstanding, we thought that your gif was some form of advertisement, like the others we removed from the thread (namely « crypto tower », « crypto calendar », and some mining pool). You can keep your post and gif if it's just a scam accusation: as we said in the main post, we're ready to live with those. They come with the territory.




                           



One question I have for the developers is how many total coins will there be? You mention in your earlier thread that one billion will be distributed initially, which could now be outdated information. Please clarify.

From this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525419 : « There will be 1 000 000 000 (one billion) sparks distributed initially, with nothing at all premined or reserved for the developers »

This information has not changed since, we will stick with this number.



                           
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IPO] Spark: New codebase for a new crypto - Fund raising [3/4] on: March 24, 2014, 09:31:13 PM
                           



this is a little fishy...

how much spark will i get for x amount of btc?  will it be based on percent of btc sent to that address? say i end up sending 1% of all the btc invested... i'll get 1% of spark?  you should be clarifying how you are dividing this all up.  or maybe i'm just an idiot.

how do we know all 1 bill will be released? how will you prove it?

Yes, you will get a % of Spark that is proportional to the % of btc you invested compared to the total btc in the IPO.

If you invest 1btc out of a total of 100btc invested, you will indeed get 1% of all Sparks.

All the sparks have already been minted and are in the hands of our escrow. They will be distributed by them as soon as the IPO is over.


An escrow has much more to lose by losing their reputation than they have to win by stealing people's funds. We made sure to pick an escrow group that is involved in many projects and wants to keep on doing it professionally, knowing they will lose all their future business if they sabotage their trust ratings.




As for the proof, Spark has a « genesis cloud » with the id 0, you will be able to trace all transactions emitted from this Spark Cloud. 

We can provide a public list of all transactions ids, since it is not possible to follow Spark transactions without knowing their ID (fully anonymous cryptocurrency). Once you know the ID though, you can verify that each transaction did indeed happen, and check that the genesis wallet has 0 balance remaining.

If there is demand for it, we will provide this list after launch.



Concerning any further inquiries, we will drop by here as often as possible, but prefessional, family, and social life get in the way sometimes.



                           
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN][IPO] Spark: New codebase for a new crypto - Fund raising [3/4] on: March 24, 2014, 08:36:23 PM
Spark: The future is now

Thread 3 of 4: Fund raising / IPO







If you are looking for actual information on Spark, follow this link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525419

If you want more in depth answers about Spark (and its IPO): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527405


Spark is a brand new cryptocurrency made by a team of 3 professional developers who wish to remain anonymous.

It takes the best from all the interesting cryptocurrencies out there (bitcoin, nextcoin, darkcoin) and mixes it with fresh and new ideas.

It is not a fork of existing code, but rather a brand new codebase with core concepts that are thought differently from existing cryptocurrencies.






                           



Raising money: The IPO



If you do not know what Spark is, begin by reading the following thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525419


As announced in our original post, we will never touch any of the funds that are raised. They will entirely be used for the promotion of Spark.

Our escrow will handle the bitcoins for us, and will use them in investments of our choice that promote Spark. None of the invested btc will come back to us.

We will ourselves invest in Spark just like everyone else. After a few days of IPO, we will decide how much we invest. Current plan is 1btc each, not more. We are not rich.

Unlike what we announced in our original post, we will give out 100% of all Sparks right away once the IPO phase is over. They will not be slowly given over 10 months.



The IPO will last for for 20 days. It will be closed at a random time on Sunday, April 13th.




                           



Investing through our escrows



Most escrow services and private escrows turned us down, as they do not like the idea of handling this kind of business.

We have paid our escrow 1btc in advance, and will give them 1% of all the invested bitcoins to make up for the extra effort required.



Our escrow of choice is btc-asia. They are a well trusted service with a long history of bitcoin escrows.

They will provide instant refunds at any time until the IPO is over if you wish to cancel your investment.




The address to which you should send your bitcoin investment in Spark is: 1BFknD2rTAqTx1cSCdxNiP4smnofCwBohz

There is no minimum or maximum amount. Even one satoshi will get you a fair (but very small) amount of Spark.



Once your bitcoins are sent to the address, send us an e-mail at spark-crypto@linuxmail.org with the following information:

- A nickname we can use when talking to you -

- The amount of bitcoins sent -

- The transaction ID -



If you do not know you transaction ID, send us the precise date and time of your investment instead.

We will ask you to prove you are the owner of the bitcoin address that sent the transaction before we credit you.







                           


Addressing self moderation



Even though this thread is self moderated, we will not delete the criticism and scam accusation posts.

You can look at our first thread for proof, as it is full of those: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525419

We do believe that criticism and hate are a normal part of every IPO, and understand why they happen.


The reason for the self moderation is getting rid of the plague that are advertisements.

The forum is huge, moderators can not remove them all: we will do it ourselves.

Do not bother posting adverts in our thread. They will be deleted right away.





                           


In closing: Release date




The Spark wallets and your Sparks will be released right after the IPO, on Monday, April 14th.



An altcoin exchange already received a copy of our minimalistic wallet (sparkyd) to ensure that it will be tradeable at launch.

If you represent an exchange and wish to implement Spark trading before April 14th, send us a PM or a mail !

We have successfully set up a testnet with enough nodes to sustain the network and do blank runs.

It works on every major OS (FreeBSD included) and only requires Python 3.




Thank you all for your interest in Spark. The future is now !

- The Spark team -
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [PRE-ANN 2] Spark: New codebase for a new crypto - Answering questions [2/4] on: March 23, 2014, 10:23:51 AM
Spark: The future is now

Thread 2 of 4 : Answering questions






If you are looking for actual information on Spark, follow this link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525419


In this post, we shall answer your questions about Spark to make everything clear before the investment phase and official release

This is the thread where you post your questions about Spark if you want them answered.



Spark is a brand new cryptocurrency made by a team of 3 professional developers who wish to remain anonymous.

It takes the best from all the interesting cryptocurrencies out there (bitcoin, nextcoin, darkcoin) and mixes it with fresh and new ideas.




                           



Announcing a change in plans


Having discussed the topic with a few people, we decided that instead of releasing 10% of the Sparks each month for 10 months, we will release them all on day one.

We fear that we would otherwise be giving too much power to our escrow. They are very trustable, but we won't take risks that big.


We have also already been contacted by an altcoin exchange, and will work on making Spark available for trade on day one.

They will get our lightweight wallet (sparkyd) a week before release, which should give them way enough time to implement Spark trading using our testnet.




                           



Answers to your questions and criticisms





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Why are your topics self-moderated ?

To have a way to ward away trolls, flooders, and advertisers who would want to take advantage of our thread.

We do not delete any negative criticism, as we view them as a necessary reaction to anything new. Instead, we will reply to them to point out why we believe they are wrong, and let you and them make up your mind on whether you believe we or them are right.

You can find proof of that in the original thread, which is mostly scam accusations that we left unedited.




So you are taking the best of BitCoin, Dark and NXT.

Do you plan on writing over 10,000 lines of code just for the anonymity piece like the Dark team has done or wait until they finish all the hard innovative work so you can rip it off? Same goes for NXT....a lot of dev has gone into that as well.

You have heavily misunderstood Spark.

100% of Spark's codebase is handmade. We have taken all the ideas that we thought were interesting from other coins, and implemented them ourselves into Spark. Nothing was stolen, nothing was copy pasted.

Innovation is meant to be built upon, and this is what we attempt to do here. If someone in the future takes Spark's ideas and builds upon them to do something better, we would be proud of it and applaud them.



open source?

Of course !

WTFPL licence, you will be free to do what you please with the codebase without asking us first. Read more: http://www.wtfpl.net/




                           


Technical questions




So without the blockchain, what happens exactly when a "Spark Cloud" gets shutdown?  Are the transaction records no longer available to anyone?  

Think of Spark clouds as blocks, since the concept is similar. Instead of being inserted in a blockchain, they are generated individually, and only kept by the nodes which have used them for transactions, instead of having a copy stored by everyone.

It is also important to know that there is a « Main cloud » which contains a registry of which transaction happened in which Spark cloud. There will be a copy of this main cloud on each Spark node. We took inspiration from the way the Electrum bitcoin wallet works.

When someone needs info about a particular transaction which is in a Spark cloud that he does not have a copy of, the Spark protocol will perform the following actions:
- Query a random node on the network to know in which cloud his transaction ID is stored (the node knows from its Main cloud copy)
- Query other random nodes to verify that the information is true (as it is possible to carry false information on a decentralized network)
- If a node carries false information, it will be flagged as unreliable. More than 2 unreliable ratings in a 1h timespan and the node is considered forked and will automatically resync its data from the other nodes.
- Query all nodes on the network to know which ones carry a copy of the cloud that contains the transaction ID
- Reliability check, flag nodes that carry wrong info, etc
- Download the cloud that contains the transaction required
- Depending on client settings, keep or discard the cloud that was downloaded once the transaction is checked

The whole process is extremely quick, as all those operations are done almost simultaneously.


As you will understand from reading this, the network relies heavily on its nodes to keep the information trustworthy. However, due to the concept of Lightning bolt transactions, and the need for commercial entities to have a functional network, we believe that enough people will run nodes to keep the network safe and decentralized. Any attempt at forking will get flagged at bad nodes, and no client will use the incorrect nodes until they have the correct data.

Upon launch, we will provide 8 nodes in Europe, 4 nodes in the USA, and 5 nodes in Asia. The first version of the Spark client will be set by default to run as node, therefore building up our network. Once we have enough people willing to run nodes, we will distribute the client in the default mode that discards clouds once done. This can be toggled easily in the client settings.

With enough nodes, the only thing the Spark network would be weak to is a false flag attack, where healthy nodes would get flagged as unhealthy. To prevent this, we have set up a system that should work in theory, works in testnet, but needs to be tested on a much wider scale to know whether it works properly. Basically, a flagged node will get peer reviewed by other nodes to make sure the flags are legitimate and not a sabotage act against this particular act or the network. If the node passes peer review, it will lose its flags and be able to continue working normally.

There is of course an incentive for people to run nodes, the ability to be able to recieve Lightning bolt transactions, thus eliminating the need for a third party centralized payment processor to do near instant transactions.


I know this is a lot of information to process, and our team is sadly graphically impaired enough to not be able to make an easy visual representation of the whole process.

A full documentation on clients and nodes comes with the Spark client, it should clear up the confusion.




So without the blockchain, what happens exactly when a "Spark Cloud" gets shutdown?  Are the transaction records no longer available to anyone?  
without blockchain its centralized coin

Just like any other cryptocurrency out there, it relies on its users, and is fully decentralized. With no mining, we rely fully on nodes to keep the network alive and healthy and to make sure there are always copies of every cloud somewhere. The no mining model was adopted after seeing that it works just fine for Nextcoin. We took it a step further by making it a decentralized network that does not require a blockchain, thus giving the average user much more ease.





How is this a 'cryptocurrency' if there is no cryptography involved?

There is minimal cryptography involved, indeed. Many things however are hashed in Spark, mostly for integrity checks. There are cryptographic hashes on transactions, spark clouds, node flags, etc.

We however agree that the term decentralized currency fits more than cryptocurrency. It's a different direction for the same concept.





                           


The distribution controversy






Quote
[...] scam [...]

We will be using a public third party escrow to do all the collecting and distribution for us. At no point in the process will we touch the bitcoins or the Sparks that are invested/given out.

If it is a scam, it sure is a very elaborate one.




Well, I was excited until I read "can not be mined at all".  So its a 100% IPO coin.  How is this a good idea?

A few months ago, we read this (and other similar things), and decided that we should not use proof of work: http://pando.com/2013/12/16/bitcoin-has-a-dark-side-its-carbon-footprint/

We however agree that 100% IPO is not a good idea either. We tried to look into a fair distribution method, and could not find a single one that gave no one an advantage. Here is what we looked into and why we discarded it:
- Proof of work (mining) would be supporting a concept that we want to disappear. We want Spark to be eco friendly.
- Requiring a proof of identity and giving a fixed amount to each unique person can be cheated on (fake passports, borrowing passports, etc.). Besides, this kills the whole anonymity thing.
- Doing giveaways puts too much power in our hands, and it is very easy to cheat on giveaways to get as much of them as possible.
- Opening faucets makes them cheatable, it is easy to change your ip an infinite amount of times (or just use a botnet) and run the faucet dry.

We had thought of other methods that I do not remember right now, but none of them satisfied us. Besides, the IPO method lets us build a marketing fund through our escrow with the collected bitcoins, which gives us a chance to promote Spark very heavily as soon as it is released. This makes investors winners, as they not only get their money's worth of Spark, but they also get free promotion for the currency that they are now a stakeholder of.




A new coin with no premine sweet , but wait the only way to distribute the coins is through ipo so 100% premine then as that is what it is.

How does one premine what can not be mined? Smiley

The cryptocurrency userbase is too heavily focused on mining, and sees everything from a mining point of view. As discussed above, we agree that IPOs are bad, but we also think that mining is even worse, as it has real life consequences.

Besides, mining, just like IPOs or buying on the market, is a way for the rich to get richer. We do not buy the concept that mining puts everyone on the same level, as investing ASICs and GPU farms gives a pretty massive advantage on the mining market.

After looking at Nextcoin, we are confident that the market will adjust itself and that Sparks will be fairly distributed as soon as people start « dumping » their shares.

We'd like to share this very interesting graph that we found about Nextcoin's distribution, since we will be using a similar model : http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/818/9098/original.jpg





Some questions:
1. Set a IPO cap.
2. Distribution in 10 months is totally a joke.  Make market smooth?  Or market will crash if the coins being distributed at once?
You know what happened to NXT.
3. Most coins are in your hands. So you can manipulate the market for at least ten months.

You are completely right, after looking at it, the 10 month distribution serves no purpose at all, and makes you trust us / the escrow service much more than you should have to. We have changed this plan, and all Sparks will be given right away to the concerned parties once the IPO is over.

As for an IPO cap, we simply have no idea how much is a good idea. We'd rather leave it open and see what happens.



Can we just jump to thread 4 and skip all the crap in between?  Huh  Huh  Huh

We are sorry, we would have liked to do that, but the best way to make an IPO as « fair » as possible is to have people be aware of it. The more people know about the coin before the IPO starts, the less people will be scorned by not having heard of Spark before it was too late.




                           


About anonimity




"3 professional developers who wish to remain anonymous"

THIS is what wrong with cryptos these days, everyone just hides behind some fake ID's, premine the shit out of stuff and abandon their coin once they made profit and just do it all over again under new usernames.

And even if there's no premine, you won't get any trust from people when you want to remain anonymous.

If you do not trust us because we decided to remain anonymous, we will undertsand it.

Anonimity is, for us, the one most important thing about cryptocurrencies. The true freedom to do whatever we want with our wallets and money without having anyone being able to trace us.

All three of the Spark developers work both professionally and personally on security and anonimity related projects, and believe that in the wake of current geopolitical events, anonimity is a very important concern. Whether you are a first world citizen concerned with the NSA issues, or a third world citizen trying to evade your government's grasp on currency, you need anonimity more than you think you do.

We are what we preach, and, as of such, will remain anonymous. I don't see people complaining about Satoshi or Sunny King being anonymous (which is a good thing), and we opted to do the same.

In the event that we stop supporting Spark, the community will be able to take over very easily, as the project will be open sourced in a public repository. There is no « premine » for us to dump, it would be extremely silly to distance ourselves from Spark right away after 4 months of hard work on it. Spark is our baby, and we'll help it grow into an adult.




q: have the devs worked on other coins, if so can we know which ones?

edit: and thanks for not calling it Sparkcoin....

The developer that came with the idea for Spark has worked on a previously unsuccessful, generic, and boring altcoin. Said altcoin is currently traded on Cryptsy. He is not proud of it.

The other two developers have no past experience in cryptocurrency, but were able to learn the trade quite fast.

We dislike the « coin » naming of every new currency these days, it would have hurt us to call our currency a coin when it is not physical.





                           


In closing



Post any further questions in this thread, and we will edit this post to include their answers if we believe they require one.

We have no date set for the IPO as we are still negociating the exact terms with our escrow, our current goal is to start it monday (tomorrow) if possible.


If you are confusedly trying to figure out what this thread is all about, then you have not followed the very first link in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525419


Thank you all for your interest in Spark. The future is now !

- The Spark team -
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [PRE-ANN] Spark: Whole new codebase for a whole new crypto [1/4] on: March 21, 2014, 08:49:23 PM
Spark: The future is now

Thread 1 of 4 : Unveiling







This post will be concise, and use simple language.

The second thread next week will go more into detail about various aspects of Spark.


Spark is a brand new cryptocurrency made by a team of 3 professional developers who wish to remain anonymous.

It takes the best from all the interesting cryptocurrencies out there (bitcoin, nextcoin, darkcoin) and mixes it with fresh and new ideas.



Below is a summary of all the important/interesting points relating to Spark.

The next thread will talk about some of these points in detail.





                           



A brand new start


The spark code base is 100% new. It is not a fork of an existing cryptocurrency.

Spark eliminates the clumsy/bloated blockchain and replaces it with what we call « Spark clouds », decentralized ledgers that shut down once they get too big

Spark clouds can emit near instant transactions (less than 10 seconds) which we call « Lightning bolts », if you set a high enough fee compared to the other outgoing transactions at the time you emit it.

Normal transactions are still very fast (should never be more than a minute), and will never get stuck in limbo if you set no fee, like bitcoin transactions tend to




                           



The self-sustained spark network


As proof of work mining is a waste of energy that might reach environmentally disastrous proportions, Spark can not be mined at all

Instead, inflation is introduced through a standard proof of stake model, with 10% new coins minted each year, except the first year where no extra coins will be generated

On top of the annual proof of stake inflation (distributed every day), mining fees will be proportionally redistributed to stakeholders

Spark's proof of stake does not require wallets to be unlocked and open, all they have to do is exist. Yes, you will get PoS revenue from your cold storage

Only a spark node can recieve a lightning bolt (super fast) transaction. This encourages businesses or other heavy Spark users to support the network by hosting nodes




                           



A coin with real life uses


The speed of Spark transactions, especially lightning bolt transactions, makes it appealing for online or offline businesses to use as an actual means of payment

Transactions can have attached messages, which is an extremely important feature for commercial usages (attaching a user id, a command id, an invoice id, etc)

Public keys can have aliases, which businesses can use for simplicity. For example, you would send your coins to the wallet Gamecompany instead of sending it to a random hash that you'd never be able to memorize

Sparks are divisible by up to 10 units, making them much more efficient than bitcoin for micro transactions. If Spark value goes up, we will increase this number

Wallets have an open plugin system that lets you build anything on top of them (in Python 3)

A demo plugin that greatly simplifies Spark related accounting for businesses will be released with the wallets

The wallet runs on every major OS (including our beloved FreeBSD), and a special lightweight wallet (called sparkyd) will be offered to exchanges on release




                           



True anonimity


In the spirit of cryptocurrency, we believe that anonimity is a very important feature, and we live by the way we think

Spark implements a mixing method that makes it extremely hard to trace transactions if you are not aware of their txid.

All transactions, even past ones, are constantly mixed within the spark clouds, which makes it harder to trace them than the currently existing coin mixing implementations

The team decided to remain anonymous on purpose, but we do intend to support the coin and keep churning bugfixes and releases, as we do believe in the importance of cryptocurrency

We are three professional developers who know each other in real life, and have worked on past crypto currency related projects. This is all you will ever know about the Spark team




                           



Number crunch and distribution model


There will be 1 000 000 000 (one billion) sparks distributed initially, with nothing at all premined or reserved for the developers

There are no block times, as there is no block chain. Spark clouds are spawned and/or transactions written into spark clouds when the nodes deem it necessary

As we have sadly not found a better distribution model, we will have to resort to an IPO to distribute the initial Sparks

The IPO will be fair for everyone involved, and we will guarantee that coins are not wasted or stolen by using a trusted escrow service for the IPO instead of collecting it ourselves

You will be given 10% of the Sparks you have bought through the IPO every month for ten months. This is to ensure that the market does not get flooded all at once, and has time to develop.

The bitcoins raised during the IPO will be used exclusively for the promotion of Spark. The escrow we have contracted will directly spend the coins for us when needed, we will never touch them




                           



Welcome to the future


Spark is a project that was started in secret in November 2013, and we are glad to finally be able to share it with you.

Feel free to ask all the questions you want in this thread, we will answer it in the next thread.

There should be about one week, more or less, between each thread.

Thread 2 of 4 will be going into detail about any topics that people are curious about.

Thread 3 of 4 will be the IPO and fund raising for Spark. We will reveal our escrow system at that time. This phase will last for 20 days.

Thread 4 of 4 will be the Spark release. In order to not get beaten at our own game, the source code and wallets will be released only then.

We are however open to giving the micro wallet (sparkyd) to exchanges before the Spark release date, to ensure a smooth launch.




See you in the next thread.

- The spark team -


8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / The future is now on: March 16, 2014, 06:20:45 PM
A new cryptocurrency will be unveiled soon.

It will not be a fork of anything that already exists.

It is developed by a team that knows what they are doing.

It is full of new ideas.

A new generation.




In order to make the announcement next week, I have to prepare an account on bitcointalk. For that, I need to post this thread to make sure the account works and I can post.

See you soon in the altcoins section Smiley
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