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Did the Jews say to Hitler: "our race is extermination-proof, go a head and try!"?
Nope. And neither did GG, IX, I0, or Bitparking. What is your point? As for "support", which definition are you using? sup·port (s-pôrt, -prt)
tr.v. sup·port·ed, sup·port·ing, sup·ports
1. To bear the weight of, especially from below.
2. To hold in position so as to keep from falling, sinking, or slipping.
3. To be capable of bearing; withstand: "His flaw'd heart . . . too weak the conflict to support" (Shakespeare).
4. To keep from weakening or failing; strengthen: The letter supported him in his grief.
5. To provide for or maintain, by supplying with money or necessities.
6. To furnish corroborating evidence for: New facts supported her story.
7.
a. To aid the cause, policy, or interests of: supported her in her election campaign.
b. To argue in favor of; advocate: supported lower taxes.
8. To endure; tolerate: "At supper there was such a conflux of company that I could scarcely support the tumult" (Samuel Johnson).
9. To act in a secondary or subordinate role to (a leading performer).
I've seen 6, 7a, 7b, 8, and even some of 9 on here. Are you Bill Clinton? Depends on what the definition of "is" is? Again, what is your point? |
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And we have validation of Godwin's law after 415 posts. Not exactly a record but nice confirmation!
Via the Corollary you automatically lose. Anyone who can't defend their position without hyperbolic references to Hitler/Nazi/Holocaust has already lost the argument.
Thank you for adding to the conversation. You are truly a visionary. |
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If the word wasn't important, why did you use it? You knew exactly what you were saying and implying.
In what way are we supporting him? I haven't given him any money. In fact I don't think I've even given him a compliment. I've merely sat back and enjoyed the show.
If you pay taxes, you support war more than I support BitcoinExpress.
Since when does support require money? Defending his actions is supporting him. I really have no idea whether you personally have or not as I'm not going to go review all of your posts. Hell, I don't know who I'm replying to with half of these because the second I said something negative about BCX people came out of the woodwork to defend his actions. The word is as close to accurate as I could get to what he has done. But because it's a scary word, people got all worked up and made it all about the word. Short attention spans I guess. Yes, I know what I am saying. He's walking around with a big stick picking winners and losers, and for some odd reason most people here want to be his friend. Do we support and defend thieves because their actions have lead to better security systems? Do we justify the actions of Hitler because his experimentation on Jews led to medical breakthroughs? No! Feel free to acknowledge that the nefarious actions led to improvements, but those actions should at the same time be condemned. We should work towards fixing problems in a more mature and productive way. You bring politics into this discussion? Why? |
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I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Why is it everything is described as 'terrorism' these days? It's not terrorism if terror isn't involved. Not threats, not fear, actual real terror. Just because a load of political parasites use that word to justify all sorts of evil doesn't mean you have to resort to the same nonsense. Ah, the internet. Lets ignore all the arguments and focus on one word. God forbid I should misspell something as well. Then the gloves would be off. The point is you are supporting someone you shouldn't be supporting imo. |
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SolidCoin is closed source too...
Ok. What does that have to do with BCX's tactics? That's what I'm talking about. I think casually tossing around the world terrorism is more an act of terrorism than exploiting code.
Seriously? Terrorism? What the fuck.
I don't think that word means what you think it means. noun 1. The use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes. Do you have a better word? Cyber Assault? Extortion? Cyber Bullying? It certainly isn't ethical hacking. |
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Cyber terrorism? ROFL.
There is no security through obscurity.
If the flaws exist now they will exist in the future when the end game involves hundreds of millions of dollars in transactions. An end game w/ end users who are far more easily spooked. If a currency can't stand up to relatively simple attacks involving a relatively cheap amount of resources then they simply have no reason for existing.
If he can "break" BTC then I would rather he do it now while BTC is in its infancy than someone else doing it in the future to steal hundreds of millions of dollars and destroy confidence in crypto-currency.
" he should be using his resources to fix the exploits and problems. "
Whitehats have long since figured out nobody listens to exploits & problems until it is a problem. People use to point flaws out to Microsoft. Sometimes writing up long papers explaining the issue and ramifications. Microsoft promptly ignored them. Today they launch a proof of concept attack and issues get patched much faster.
Think of it as software evolution. Good software will evolve and become stronger by being constantly attacked. Weak software dies and it likely had no business existing to begin with.
Your analogy doesn't work because Microsoft's products are closed source. We have to rely on them to fix bugs. BTC is open source. We don't need a proof of concept attack, you can simply provide a fix to the code. I agree good software will evolve, but I really don't think most of what BCX is doing contributes to that. BCX's methods are childish. The proof of concept was GG. Everything after has just been big kid on the block crap. DDOS attacks? These are not helpful to evolution of software. Taking bribes to not attack chains? Really? Terrorism is a scary word, but it effectively describes the methods. He attacks anyone who tries to improve on the current BTC code. |
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Actually pretty much what he said he was going to do, he has. A lot of very knowledgeable forum members seems to consider him factual.
Geist Geld - Two successful attacks
Fairbrix -Reorged the chain and stole over 1700 blocks.
Namecoin - Rumored to have paid off by NMC Dev not to attack
Solidcoin 1 - Scared CH so bad he killed the chain as a precaution after seeing GG hit.
I0C and IXC - Numerous test for 51%, basically killed them
Bitparking - Number 1 suspect in DS attack has every trait of BCX
Coinotron - was working fine, BCX announces attack and three minutes later it shoots to 97% stales and stays there.
This guy has closed down every non BTC exchange at one point or another.
His weapons are mass resources and is apparently someone well connected in the computer industry.
He indicated what he was going to do to SC 20 and did it. He uses pure hashing power applied at the precise times. The only known code exploit was when he used ArtForz Time Travel and had some of his people modify it.
Made the statement last night right before it happened that he bump up SC 20 block generation to 4 per second, it did and stayed there.
Doesn't sound like BS to me.
Why does the BTC community support what essentially equates to cyber terrorism? Just because he hasn't attacked BTC, he's a good terrorist? Patriot? What happens when the BTC community wrongs him somehow and he points his "mass resources" and "Industry connections" at the BTC network? If he's really a "good" guy, he should be using his resources to fix the exploits and problems. Right now he's just a kid with a magnifying glass deciding which ants get to live. |
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The problem is that I don't see any new mainstream adoption occurring. What increase in demand exists to drive their price up? We have an increasing supply, but a stagnant demand. Economics 101 says the price will keep falling without something changing.
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If BTC development stagnates, then it is likely one of these alt currencies will take over.
Considering I really haven't seen much innovation in recent months, I'm concerned it may already be in the works.
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The main problem of all bitcoin software seems to be awful lack of security. Plaintext password storage in all the miners, how is that secure?
Nah, the main problem is that people will run anything if they think they can make a quick buck. |
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Infrastructure guy who is looking to supplement his data center revenue.  |
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80 Mhash/s today on a 560ti...but 4 5770's on the way to beef that number up.
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