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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XNC] XenCoin | Instant | Stable | Long term Support - New UPDATE!!! on: April 23, 2014, 12:09:54 PM
RIP Xencoin.

Looks like it died a death last night 22nd April 2014 @ 1am.

Although we are still mining for lols - it seems every other pool and block chain explorer stopped then.

They might just be updating the block chain servers to deal with open ssl issue?

 Grin
2  Economy / Economics / Re: Causes of hyperinflation on: April 11, 2014, 10:03:15 PM
Remember street fighter 2 and then street fighter 2 hyper fighting. Similar causes. People wanted more of a challenge  with their economy.
3  Economy / Economics / Re: losing faith on: April 11, 2014, 06:38:58 AM
Remember you only ever Lose value if you Sell Wink If you never Sell the price on the exchange is completely irrelevant and you never lost anything to begin with just a percieved worth at that moment in time is all it is..... Hold on for better days price only matters when you sell or buy and if you stand to lose just SAY NO there's plenty of other days ahead don't let it get to you and PANIC sell and make someone else richer.....

You are ignoring the OPs point. They wanted to use bitcoin to buy something, and it depreciated stupidly between times needed to place order at certain value, exchange, then transfer coin.

He's not looking to speculate, he wants to use it as currency as it is intended.

4  Economy / Speculation / Re: Taking a loan to buy bitcoin on: April 08, 2014, 07:49:07 PM
I'm thinking of getting a loan to buy more bitcoin, as I'm guessing we'll reach $10K in a few months it can be a good deal to lend at a bank against 5% anual rate

Did anyone do this before? Would like some experience advice

There have been many people in here asking about the same thing and I think it's a recipe for disaster and would not recommend it. Invest what you can afford to lose, if you become too greedy it could very well come back and bite you in the ass (and karma says it will). You will live in regret for the rest of your life. Don't do it, if bitcoin succeeds a few bitcoins will be enough to buy a house or two.

Let's say someone took a loan of $100k in september and put it into Bitcoin, he would have made about $900k minus interest in just less than 2 months. There's no going wrong here.

If I take a loan now of $100k and put it into Bitcoin, it might be worth 10x in just a few months. Worst case scenario it will bubble to $9k and back to $1k, then I would have only lost the interest on the loan. It's a winner bet to become a millionaire from just one simple move at the moment, with no losing edge in sight.

So the worst case scenario you see is that BTC goes to $9000, then falls back to $1000?  You see absolutely no other scenario worse than that???
I'm holding my bitcoins, but having such blind faith in your predictive abilities is dangerous.

Bitcoin doesn't go down in price over longterm, this is a fact. With this fact I can deduce that it will never go longterm below $1000 anymore. It's simple really.

Define longterm.
5  Economy / Speculation / Re: I AM HODLING on: April 07, 2014, 06:16:30 PM
amateurs have more chance to buy high and sell low

This is my main tactic  Grin
6  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy on weekend or Monday? on: April 06, 2014, 11:04:39 PM
Thor is bearish.
Cheesy
7  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Short-term trade] $480 before $430? on: April 05, 2014, 09:30:23 PM
Too risky IMO. Maybe I'd gamble 25% tops.
8  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will have no more big "to the moon" rises anymore. Face reality on: April 05, 2014, 06:06:05 PM
Face reality. Or don't, idk your choice. This is kinda long. Why not. Fun is spelled F U N.

Look at all of the news in the past few months. The IRS classified Bitcoin as property(the judgement everyone was waiting for to see if it was legal or not officially) Check, its there now.

You can buy almost anything you want with BTC now(might have to convert to Gyft for some things).

Some countries have banned it some haven't.

China is basically going to ban it and cause a new price crash on April 15th(Or so I have heard and it really looks to be the case from my own research).

At this point, can anyone really say there is something that will catapult Bitcoin straight up like happened months ago?(no you can't and the comments below prove you can't even form sentences to this question). I will change my mind if someone really gives a good argument for a huge sharp rise in a short period. But I don't see one(comments below show no arguments yet).

Long term, another coin will beat it out, or something better will be invented. It's no secret mining is a completely stupid way of verifying a transaction because all that happens is that tons of computers/gpus/servers/rigs are guessing random numbers until they line up with what is needed. This eventually will cause a tremendous amount of energy waste(right now I am pretty sure all miners are losing money if they are converting into USD right away).

Just because there is a limited supply doesn't mean anything, the demand also comes in somewhere no? Look at the demand right now, price dropped from a high of I dunno 1,135 USD something(not MTGOX  inflated prices) now it is at 445 USD. A lot of people got invested into this when it was going up in price, ever wonder why you only see 3,000 people signed on BTC-E anymore and not 15,000 like they were getting? Demand is dropping, supply doesn't matter if no one wants it.

That being said, if you are one of these people who "put all of their life savings in BTC/Alt coins" I think it is time for a reality check(at least in the short term).

Oh but the Network effect you all scream like babies, tell that to MySpace rofl. Or AIM, or Yahoo, or any other person who held the network majority, its called competition(google it).

Personally, I lost all of my BTC, originally had 5 BTC, turned it into 7 BTC, lost some on a bad trade, lost 45% of my BTC on Cex.io adding "futures options", which I had no idea they were doing(my fault I know). Then I accidentally did a max bet on Just dice and lost most of it, got like .2 BTC left right, then coinex gets hacked rofl... so im down to abotu .05 BTC total.

For reference, my friend put 3,000 bucks into stock at his company and bought in at 43 bucks per, had to hold for a lil while, then sold it at 60 bucks. Kinda wishing I never did this whole BTC thing, it helps people, but it's definitely a super minority of people this helps(for now). I agree it might help poorer countries, but "Ain't nobody got time for that" over there, they are like you know, farming and stealing to eat and survive. So #ya.


Edit 1: Let me also add, BTC it is not very user friendly for the majority of any population. You have to verify a bank account where your Fiat comes from and get a fee charged on you (but Bitcoin itself can have no fees I understand that) So you still have fees for now, so that doesn't exactly help. Fees need to be eliminated or driven down really really low, then you got a fee to withdraw into Fiat also. I understand you can just keep it in BTC, but heres the problem you run into. Say you have 1 BTC, you spend all of it, guess what? Time to pony up and pay more fees to get BTC, now you have to keep track of the flucuations of BTC according to the IRS ruling. Every time you buy or sell any coins for any reason ever, you have to keep track of it, no thanks rofl.

 If Obama can win a majority of a country of 300 million +  and get a second term based on ideas and no substance, how do you expect Bitcoin which is based on substance and some Ideology to win over morons? It won't. Also, the repubbies'cans say the same thing for the past 8 years, they presented their ideas and didn't win anything but the House. Might get Senate this time because Obama lies a lot and ppl get madzzz.


Edit 2: Personally, I incur 0% fees per year on my credit cards. All of them have no annual fee, no fees for bank transfers ever on my cards, no late payment fees ever for an unlimited amount of times, 1 and 2% cash back on everything(one of my cards is 1% but it is MasterCard I have to sometimes use), I get 5% cash back on purchases in the rotating 3 month categories(I  have 4 credit cards all linked to one b ank account, and whichever card has the 5% off of whatever I am buying I use that). So it becomes extremely wrong to advocate Bitcoin be used for rich/middle/lower middle class people. I only make 47,000 a year Salary, I am 24 years old, 2 years out of college and I am at my first "REAL" job, to tell me to use Bitcoin and get some fees converting from Fiat to BTC, then I spend the BTC, then guess what??? I need more BTC, lets incur more fees converting from Fiat to BTC. Don't you see BTC is really for poor people? If poor people only use BTC back and forth between each other it would be wonderful, but that isn't going to happen for a long long long time, 10s of years later maybe, MAYBE people will all be tech savvy. MAYBE. But BTC doesn't solve any problems for the majority of people and you know it.

You would have been better off putting your 7 btc into cold wallet and the HODL  m8
9  Economy / Speculation / Re: I AM HODLING on: April 03, 2014, 07:17:52 PM
Hodl for life is the only safe way Cool
10  Economy / Speculation / Re: Blood Moons – BTC Price: It’s not China, Mt. Gox, or anything else in the news. on: April 03, 2014, 03:31:27 AM
OP. please may you post a similar chart to this one, buts going back much further in time, to cover previous rally and crash?

https://i.imgur.com/dnmGE21.png

Furthe back please!

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