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1  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 22, 2021, 04:55:03 PM
This is a more recent chat I had after being blocked.
Apparently the game does not work the way they want it to work.
I'll be clear right away, I've never taken any bonuses or free spins. That's why the part with "game abuse" doesn't make sense at all.
They even display my winnings below the game.
The mail still hasn't been answered. I will wait a little longer and create a topic in the Scam Accusations section.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.





UPDATE:

Eddie contacted me and asked for KYC verification. I could not do this as my account is still disabled.
I explained this in the support chat and they told me that I can send my documents directly to compliance@stake.com, which I did.
I notified Eddie about this by email.




100% scam site ...эти мрази кинули  кучу народа на деньги , все у них фейковое, xyecocbI
2  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 19, 2021, 10:15:38 PM
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If you can provide evidence of this claim, you'd have a lot more support:

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In the end, they confessed that they had stolen my money and posted some fake positive reviews here. Just a bunch of scammers.

Obviously you won't though, because it's a lie.

What exactly do u mean? That they stole my money and laugh at me...It's a lie? Or the fact that positive reviews on trustpilot are more like fake than real?

They didn't confess to stealing your money.  That's the lie.

after ignoring, false accusations and unwillingness to introduce themselves, KYK is just another trick, it's synonymous for - u can forget about your money
3  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 19, 2021, 08:37:27 PM
Quote

If you can provide evidence of this claim, you'd have a lot more support:

Quote
In the end, they confessed that they had stolen my money and posted some fake positive reviews here. Just a bunch of scammers.

Obviously you won't though, because it's a lie.

What exactly do u mean? That they stole my money and laugh at me...It's a lie? Or the fact that positive reviews on trustpilot are more like fake than real?

I did everything to avoid any difficulties. I am ready to forgive them. I was patient and delicate till the end. I  wrote them -

"Morons, you deceived me and robbed me. I am an honest kind person. I'm giving you the chance to do the right thing. I give you 24 hours to apologize and return my money. You are forcing me to tell the whole world how you are deceiving people. Ok, I will create a YouTube channel and a Facebook page dedicated to your fraudulent schemes. This is for a start!"

And what did these ungrateful ones answer me?

"Hello,

You have been told multiple times what is required from you to be able to withdraw funds from the site. Per our Terms of Service which you accepted upon registration of your account, we have the right to ask customers for KYC documents. Your account will remain frozen until you comply with that request no matter what you are writing online.

Regards,
Stake"

KYC, KYC, blah blah blah, you accepted our TOS, KYC, KYC....there a lot of people who did this KYC and everything stake required of them , and  in the end they didn't unblock anything, they stole money,  collected personal data and continued to ignore.
4  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 19, 2021, 08:08:15 PM
Quote

If you can provide evidence of this claim, you'd have a lot more support:

Quote
In the end, they confessed that they had stolen my money and posted some fake positive reviews here. Just a bunch of scammers.

Obviously you won't though, because it's a lie.

What exactly do u mean? That they stole my money and laugh at me...It's a lie? Or the fact that positive reviews on trustpilot are more like fake than real?
5  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 19, 2021, 07:36:21 PM
newbie account with 1 single post claiming that you have been compromised by stake? I believe other people will not believe this claims if you cannot show some good proofs about what you have said here and also if you think you encounter that issue and been compromised by them better go on scam accusation section and post a relevant thread about your issue about them.

If you cannot provide any of that we will think that you are just trolling here.
There has been a constant attack on stake lately, I guess it is a bit about how stake grew way too big very quickly for the recent year and considering people have been gambling more and more lately (combining a lot more people in crypto due to the increase in price and a lot of people bored right now at home because of covid) and that is why the opponents are probably sending people to spread hate towards stake in order to make people stop gambling here, with a mix of people who are newbies and idiots who do not know how casinos work come here and they make sure they say bad stuff about stake even if they just straight up lost money here.

At the end of the day stake was already big, and grew even bigger, which is why we knew that these kinds of things would happen, even the biggest companies in the world have haters (I hate apple for example) so it is not really that shocking.

There are 2 options, 1. you are one of them  2. you are mentally retarded
If you are one of them, I hope you will go to jail for a long time, if you are mentally retarded, my condolences, try all methods to get well and don't give up.
6  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 19, 2021, 10:51:00 AM
I'll give the Stake representative time to respond before posting evidence.


Bro, they are scammers. Don't forget to share your experience on trustpilot.
7  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 17, 2021, 09:52:50 PM
I am not sure why my thread got sent to the scam accusation forum, i dont agree with that move at all.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5317697.0

don't forget to share your story on trustpilot
8  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 17, 2021, 10:41:01 AM
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All of us agreed to Stake's ToS when we created an account.

Here is the part that you guys have probably missed:
"6. Know your Customer (“KYC”)
Stake reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Stake reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in Stake’s sole discretion. Stake also reserves the right to disclose a User’s information as appropriate to comply with legal process or as otherwise permitted by the privacy policy of Medium Rare N.V. (owner and operator of Stake), and by using the Service, you acknowledge and consent to the possibility of such disclosure."

 Shocked genius

Frozen balance->Ignore->false accusations->"You have accepted our Terms of Service upon registration. Please read them again, especially point 6. Know your Customer ("KYC")..."   pure scam.

from trustpilot

Ignore document verification.
Hello. I came to this site for advertising, made a Deposit of$400. Imagine I put only 2! 2 bets.

1. sport:3693843
2. sport:3694204

My favorite sport is American football. IMAGINE THEY CLOSED THE WITHDRAWAL OF FUNDS AND DO NOT EVEN ALLOW YOU TO MAKE MINIMUM BETS!

They said write to accounts@ for me to pass KYC. (I read this on the Internet). I immediately sent photos of documents (passport, selfie with him, selfie with the nickname). AND NOW THEY'VE BEEN IGNORING IT FOR 2 WEEKS!!!!!!! In live support, I am constantly told "we will respond, wait", "the Manager will respond, wait" Smiley Smiley with their b***h emoticons.

Before you play here, think about their competence. Sincerely, waskesbro007.


PERFECTO! (NOT)
Again I, Ah that guys, me responded: Hello,
First of all apologies for having to wait this long for the reply. Our team will finish the investigation within the next couple of days and you will be contacted here. Your patience is appreciated.
Regards,
Stake
Cool right? And again they are silent for a week, do not give an answer and do not withdraw money. Sad

waskesbro007
9  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 16, 2021, 12:52:07 PM
https://stake.com/policies/terms

In our ToS you can see that multiple accounts are not allowed, Faris was not moderator when these topics were started/closed, Faris became moderator about 6 months ago or so.

When you registered on Stake you agreed to follow the rules of our ToS.


So you're one of them. What's the problem with my account? Clowns...

Hey guys, my nik on stake is satnakomoto, why i can't make a  withdraw from site? When i click on withdraw i see the error that i'm not allowed to do that. Why? 48 hours already past

Hello,

First of all apologies for waiting this long for a reply.

We have frozen your account because we have reason to believe that this account is guilty of breaching our terms of service as stated under item number 5.1. Please see https://stake.com/policies/terms for further reference. Anonymity is important to us, but multi-accounting is something we take very seriously.

Can you complete the KYC process by sending us a picture of your ID and a picture of you holding that ID and a piece of paper with your username and today's date? Please provide those documents within the next 24 hours.

Regards,
Stake

I waited 48 hours to be accused of breaking some rules and having multiple accounts? I only have one account. Are you kidding me? Now I still have to send you my documents, to scammers, and it is not known how long it will take, I already have experience of communicating with your Support, etc. Typical scammers, that's who you are, who take money and do not allow them to be withdrawn and only pretend that want to help.

Hello,

You have accepted our Terms of Service upon registration. Please read them again, especially point 6. Know your Customer ("KYC") as it is clearly written that Stake reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a user.

Unless you send us the required documents we won't be able to assist you.

Regards,
Stake

Guys, you know perfectly well that I did not violate any rules, that I have no clones, I generally have a negative profit on the site, I made a deposit from my personal wallet and I want to return the money to it, I have a verified email and phone number. You blocked my balance, at the moment I have 0.11ltc ($ 20, this is enough for a withdrawal) and you are mocking me. Why are you doing this? Let me make a withdrawal and we will forget about each other.

Hello,

I can assure you that your profit or the amount of crypto funds in your account has nothing to do with the request for KYC to be completed. As soon as you upload your documents they will be verified and you will be contacted by us shortly again via this email. If they are not already in our database you will be allowed to withdraw your funds or do whatever you want with them.

Regards,
Stake

Ok, first of all I want to know who I'm talking to, so send me a photo of your ID and a selfie of you holding your id. And explain to me why you accused me of multiple accounts? Why are you lying?

How long i must wait? Send me picture of your ID and a picture of you holding that ID. And what is your position in the company? Who am i talking to?

Hello,

You are talking to the integrity team here at Stake. Unless you send the required documents your account will remain frozen.

Regards,
Stake

Do you keep mocking me? Should I send my personal data to someone unknown? You remain anonymous, and I must trust you? After all that you have done ... You stole my money, and now you still want to use my personal data ?? Incredible.

I asked myself why are you doing this? Why are you stealing money and not caring about your reputation at all? Now I found out , you scammed a lot of people just like me , same modus operandi. Frozen balance - Ignore - Wait.Patience. Send us this. Send us that. Ignore. Infinite story. And its easy.  You are a  bunch of scamers with zero reputation. Thats why you acting like this.

And now you are posting fake positive reviews on trustpilot?? To hide, the negative reviews from real people. Haha. Unbelievable.

Hello,

We have an impeccable reputation as we never stole a cent out from our users nor do we need to. Instead of sending us the required documents you are only making false accusations and prolonging the conclusion of the issue with your account.

Regards,
Stake


The last message from these thieves.



P.S. KYC is good, but how about KYS - know your scammer?

10  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 15, 2021, 04:38:51 PM
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How do you justify the fact that our own mods have said that multi-accounts are allowed. I see a lot of people play with alts. And then you guys go ahead stop withdrawals, and hiding behind the kyc thing.

You guys should tell the person why their funds are blocked exactly, instead of giving vague reason of having an alt.


Though I haven't had any issues with stake when making withdrawals of over 1000s$... But this doesn't look right to me.

Stake has always said they don't hold balance hostage. And, in this case it seems like you guys are. No matter what the amount is.

Thank you, I totally agree with you. Funny thing is I don't have another account and i didn't break their terms of use. Its a scam,what they do, pure scam.
11  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 15, 2021, 04:30:36 PM
All recent reviews have been negative, and they were from real people, obviously. And then suddenly - 3 very weird positive reviews appeared ... well, you can see that they are fake.  

Why would you write this if it weren't true:
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In the end, they confessed that they had stolen my money and posted some fake positive reviews here. Just a bunch of scammers.

When people make shit up online about casinos to pressure the casino to give them money (whether they're entitled to the money or not) all they're doing is helping the shady casinos and hurting themselves, other players, and honest casinos like stake.  There's a reason everyone is skeptical of you.  Just like there are shady casinos that rip off players, there are shady players that rip off casinos.  And the first stop for shady players is often this forum.



review from trustpilot

"Funds frozen for 5 days already, no response
Saturday the 2nd of January 2021 my funds (balance) got frozen meaning I can't withdraw my money. I e-mailed accounts@stake as I was advised to do. One day later they mailed me back stating I had to perform KYC and that I should do so within 24 hours. I did the KYC in an hour because I don't think doing that is a problem.

It's now Thursday and I haven't heard a thing. My money is still not withdrawable. I don't get any responses. If I e-mail support@stake I just get generic replies saying it's not their jurisdiction. I understand that. I just want someone to do something.

Please, can someone get back to me. I did what I was asked. I want to withdraw my money."


I believe that thousands of people have been scamed by these crooks. People give up and quietly leave. I will warn others what awaits them at this cheap casino. Imagine someone stole your money, all your attempts to establish contact are ignored and then they accuse you without evidence of multi-accounts and they (anonymous thieves) demand your personal data and just laugh at you. Dirty cheap casino!
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 15, 2021, 12:59:44 PM

I feel really bad for the sites which are accused of scamming their customers 'even after serving their best to them.' Before accusing Stake, did the accuser try to contact Stake directly on this matter? They can be accused for not replying if they were sent a request to look into this at first. But looks like he did not go the right way and chose to harm Stake's reputation by accusing them.
He already contacted stake's support. They told him if he can't withdraw his balance because of multi accounts. While he defend he never has any alt accounts. That's why he asks on this thread for help.



No, they sent him to the Integrity team to verify couple of things and he doesn't want to do it. So the stop here is because he doesn't want to cooperate.

"...because he doesn't want to cooperate".  I asked them to introduce themselves and explain  why my balance is blocked, why do they accuse me of multi-account? Proofs please! "We have reason to believe that this account is guilty of breaching our terms of service as stated under item number 5.1." and "You are talking to the integrity team here at Stake" means nothing.
13  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 15, 2021, 12:32:24 PM
"So you deposited 0.11 LTC and want to withdraw 0.112 LTC ?? Why anyone would do that..." And? This is an excuse to block (steal) my  money? They are so stupid. They can delete my account, i dont give a f... I will warn others about who they are. Dirty cheap casino.
You are talking about a site that gave away millions as wins a few weeks ago and you are accusing them of taking $22 Roll Eyes. So there is a clarity on who is stupid to accuse a reputed site Tongue. If you are having a genuine issue you can contact the support team and they will guide you and respond to your queries and will sort your piss amount withdrawal Tongue.


"... a site that gave away millions as wins a few weeks ago..."  Shocked  Grin
Are you one of them? Dirty cheap casino!
14  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 15, 2021, 08:14:33 AM
They ignored me for 48 h. After my review on trustpilot (take a look) they contacted me and accused without any proofs. When I asked them to introduce themselves, they answered me - we are stake integrity team. This is not an answer. Anonymous people blocked my balance, ignored me, accused me without proof (one account, I logged in with one IP, and made all deposits from my personal binance wallet) and they will require my personal data?? Pure scam.

From your review:
What rules were you accused of breaking:
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I waited 48 hours to be accused of breaking some rules and having multiple accounts?


You're clearly lying about this:
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Typical scammers, that's who you are, who take money and do not allow them to be withdrawn and only pretend that want to help. In the end, they confessed that they had stolen my money and posted some fake positive reviews here. Just a bunch of scammers.

It's tough to take you seriously to be honest.  Stake does not have a history of freezing funds or abusing KYC requests and you've demonstrated you're willing to lie in order to make them look bad.  If you're innocent, share the whole story - including the parts that don't look good for you, like why they asked you for documents or why you think they asked you for documents.


All recent reviews have been negative, and they were from real people, obviously. And then suddenly - 3 very weird positive reviews appeared ... well, you can see that they are fake. 

"
Stake Staff


Hello,

First of all apologies for waiting this long for a reply.

We have frozen your account because we have reason to believe that this account is guilty of breaching our terms of service as stated under item number 5.1. Please see https://stake.com/policies/terms for further reference. Anonymity is important to us, but multi-accounting is something we take very seriously.

Can you complete the KYC process by sending us a picture of your ID and a picture of you holding that ID and a piece of paper with your username and today's date? Please provide those documents within the next 24 hours.

Regards,
Stake
"
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 15, 2021, 07:58:14 AM
I have rarely seen a multi-accounting case on Stake.com since they don't have free spins promotions or whatever that can be meaningfully abused with multi accounts.

Guys, i just want to withdraw what i have
So you deposited 0.11 LTC and want to withdraw 0.112 LTC ?? Why anyone would do that...

Anyway,
From the screenshot, you put 0,112 instead of 0.112

"So you deposited 0.11 LTC and want to withdraw 0.112 LTC ?? Why anyone would do that..." And? This is an excuse to block (steal) my  money? They are so stupid. They can delete my account, i dont give a f... I will warn others about who they are. Dirty cheap casino.
16  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 15, 2021, 07:18:45 AM
People will see if he has basis on this complaint.
Stake will not tarnish their reputation just because of small amount.
I don't think stake team is not looking at his case as they are pretty much active with response to their players.
They are one of the established casinos here and I don't believe they will just ignore his case without basis.
I have the feeling that he knows what he violated and he is just in denial stage here.

I feel really bad for the sites which are accused of scamming their customers 'even after serving their best to them.' Before accusing Stake, did the accuser try to contact Stake directly on this matter? They can be accused for not replying if they were sent a request to look into this at first. But looks like he did not go the right way and chose to harm Stake's reputation by accusing them.


Guys, i just want to withdraw what i have, and forget about this cheap casino . They ignored me for 48 h. After my review on trustpilot (take a look) they contacted me and accused without any proofs. When I asked them to introduce themselves, they answered me - we are stake integrity team. This is not an answer. Anonymous people blocked my balance, ignored me, accused me without proof (one account, I logged in with one IP, and made all deposits from my personal binance wallet) and they will require my personal data?? Pure scam.
17  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 14, 2021, 04:02:29 AM
They are thieves!!They stole my money. Do not reply to email. Typical scammers with zero reputation. I only have 1 account. I have no friends on site, I did not receive bonuses, I transferred money from my personal wallet and wanted to transfer it back to it. They locked my balance and ignore me. They accuse me of multi-account, but they can't prove it because it's a lie. Pure scam.

You make a deposit and play several times then ask for a withdrawal, is this what you do?
If yes, I believe your account will be deleted from stake.com because this is considered against the rules at stake.com
it could also indicate money laundering even if the amount is under $100 , so after making a deposit you should play at least 1x the total deposit.


I don't think stake will ruin their reputation with this simple problem. As far as I know, their chat support is very fast in responding to their players. Maybe try contacting the chat support and not email. Stake is one of the established casinos here so I don't agree that they have zero reputation. I don't think they will act without basis. I hope you can still resolve your problem with them.

Chat "support" gave me email. Those from email ignored for 2 days. After my review on trustpilot they  contacted me and acussed of multi-account, without proofs...typical scam site. They don't allow me to withdraw back to my binance wallet.

https://prnt.sc/zfkp8t
18  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 14, 2021, 02:47:50 AM
They are thieves!!They stole my money. Do not reply to email. Typical scammers with zero reputation. I only have 1 account. I have no friends on site, I did not receive bonuses, I transferred money from my personal wallet and wanted to transfer it back to it. They locked my balance and ignore me. They accuse me of multi-account, but they can't prove it because it's a lie. Pure scam.

You make a deposit and play several times then ask for a withdrawal, is this what you do?
If yes, I believe your account will be deleted from stake.com because this is considered against the rules at stake.com
it could also indicate money laundering even if the amount is under $100 , so after making a deposit you should play at least 1x the total deposit.

https://prnt.sc/zfd3vv

https://prnt.sc/zfd7lr

19  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 14, 2021, 01:31:09 AM
They are thieves!!They stole my money. Do not reply to email. Typical scammers with zero reputation. I only have 1 account. I have no friends on site, I did not receive bonuses, I transferred money from my personal wallet and wanted to transfer it back to it. They locked my balance and ignore me. They accuse me of multi-account, but they can't prove it because it's a lie. Pure scam.
20  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Play Smarter 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: February 13, 2021, 12:57:53 PM
Oh, man. You dont know me , and you don't know who are these scammers from stake if you really trust them. Of course i'm sure i didn't violated any rule.  I did 3 depos and busted. When i did the fourth (0.1 ltc) i played some dice and did some bets on NBA, i found out that my balance is frozen. At this moment i have on balance 0.11ltc (enough for withdrawal). I'm generally on negative profit on site and i have one account , and they know this.  They just dont allow me to withdraw what i have...22$, dirty cheap casino!
You wanted to play at this casino and you agree with their T&C which is very similar to other crypto gambling sites.  So now, they are requesting verification due to the suspiciousness of your account, so if you do not cooperate with their request your problem will not be solved.  With the size of the income of such a casino do you think it can afford to scam it for only $ 22?  Incredibly, they will not destroy their reputation that way.

Frozen balances for no reason (they can't explain what rule I broke), fake positive reviews on trustpilot, "support"  - guys from third world countries who act like bots, etc. Frozen balance = stolen money, cause i can't withdraw . I can't even tip someone or rain in chat. They have no reputation.

@fagainstscam normally the support would have given you a proper reason for their suspicion, but since you’re yet not satisfied with their reply contact Stunna here maybe you’ll receive your desired answer.

Also in my personal opinion Stake isn’t a scam site, and they’re definitely not bothered about scamming you for $22 as they give out more big amounts in bonuses, hence I would request you to calmly sort your issues with them.

I asked them what rules I had broken. They did not answer, but only demanded documents and selfies. I said ok, first introduce yourself, send me your personal data and what is your function in the company. They answered - we are the stake team. Perfectly! My balance was frozen, without explaining the reason and  they (anonymous team) demanded all my personal data! Serious? Found a fool? Dirty cheap casino!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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