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1  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum lost wallet on: February 17, 2021, 08:23:10 AM
That explains a lot, it means that your backup phrase is indeed from blockchain.info because it successfully return with an account and password.

But what do you mean by "login still missing"?
Did the recovery page displayed only the "5-letters" and password not the "WalletID" (long string of characters)?
Perhaps it's an "alias" used in the old versions. In that case, you need to contact their support to get the corresponding WalletID for that alias to be able to login.
They might ask you for some verifications (not KYC, but dates/email addresses, etc.) for them to respond with the walletID.

If you have the walletID, the reason that the login credentials aren't working may be because you've changed your password before and your backup was outdated,
the backup phrase for legacy blockchain accounts should be replaced when changing account password since it's your login's backup.

I wanted to say that typing the seed phrase it showed the password (the one I had).
But it didn't show me the Wallet ID or any other information of the account, so I guess the only help I can get to follow on is from their support desk. I sent them an e-mail let's see what they say...

Have you already checked all your mom's emails that she could've used when registering on blockchain? You can search in your gmail account (assuming it was a gmail address) for the file extension mentioned by o_e_l_e_o by using:
Code:
filename:wallet.aes.json
Nothing found....  Undecided
2  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum lost wallet on: February 16, 2021, 11:22:45 PM
More information after my research:
The password that my mother noted is like her most typical password, the one that she uses everywhere adding just a few numbers.
I tried putting it at the part: Extend this seed with custom words, but no results.
Maybe can you try the username/password
here: https://inquiry.mtgox.com/inquiry/index.php
here: https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/login/ ..

Unfortunately not working

I tried the Blockchain.com forgot password site. When I put the Seed phrase it unveils the same password that my mother had in her notes!
But what to do next? I don't have the ID or anything else... and when I do SEND MY WALLET ID to her email (the same and only she has been using for the past 10 years), she doesn't receive anything. As if she didn't have an account there, so I get stucked there again....
How that ?
How/where can they unveils the password ? Huh
What's the recovering seed have to do with the password ?!
I went here as suggested by Rick: https://login.blockchain.com/wallet/forgot-password
When you put the seed phrase, it reminds you the password that was linked to your seed phrase account. And it matches with what I got! So first sign we are not in a bad direction, no?
But the login is still missing. And as I think it a too old seed, when I go here: https://login.blockchain.com/#/recover and I try to access funds, it says INVALID PASSPHRASE.

But then I've just found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ff97p/how_do_you_recover_blockchain_wallet_with_mnemonic/

Apparently, it's normal that as it's too old, I only got the old password through the recovery, but not the login... So I'm contacting Blockchain to see if they can help me out... I'll keep you posted!

Thanks!
3  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum lost wallet on: February 16, 2021, 09:25:16 PM
Hi

thanks again for all this support trying to help me!
I found out that the Seed phrase has words that belong to this list called Electrum old-style wordlist: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/1.9.8/lib/mnemonic.py

There is for example a long word like "SOMETIMES" that doesn't appear at the BIP39 seed word list and that appears there.
So I think that we can conclude that it's not a BIP39 seed phrase, but an ELECTRUM OLD STYLE seed.

More information after my research:
The password that my mother noted is like her most typical password, the one that she uses everywhere adding just a few numbers.
I tried putting it at the part: Extend this seed with custom words, but no results.

I tried the Blockchain.com forgot password site. When I put the Seed phrase it unveils the same password that my mother had in her notes!
But what to do next? I don't have the ID or anything else... and when I do SEND MY WALLET ID to her email (the same and only she has been using for the past 10 years), she doesn't receive anything. As if she didn't have an account there, so I get stucked there again....


@OP do you see any transactions on the history tab after restoring as an old seed (not bip39)? if there are no transactions then it looks like the wallet was never used.


The history is completely empty yes... Was that hard to transfer some BTC at the time? Why did they open a wallet, write down a long seed phrase, and doing all that stuff but not adding even 0,001 BTC to check that it's there..  But in any case I'm not sure that the account is getting well recovered...

What do you think about this with this new information?

Thanks  Smiley !!


4  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum lost wallet on: February 15, 2021, 10:47:05 PM
Hello!

Thanks to all for these replies.
I'll try to answer to all your suggestions to see if you have any other idea, still no success on my side:
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  • Create a new wallet -> Standard Wallet -> I already have a seed -> Just input your 12 word seed
  • Now, instead of clicking "NEXT" click on Options and select bip39 seed. I the message Checksum OK appears then it's a good sign - You've entered the correct seed phrase. If not, then it's not the right one. You'll only be able to proceed to the next step if you've got a positive checksum.
-> When typing the Seed it says just "OLD" and when selecting bip39 seed it says "UNKNOWN WORDLIST" but I can still go to the next step. Then I go click "Detecting Existing Accounts" but it says "No existing accounts found".... Sad

I can still click NEXT and create a wallet with that old Word Seed but the wallet is completely empty.

Then you have to create two wallets: The first option will be with BIP39 seed checked and the second one unchecked.



Try these. if you see your funds there after inserting your seed (with bip39 checked and unchecked)
-> Thank you! I tried both options, I can create both wallets, but they are unfortunately empty


When I try to recover it through Electrum, it creates a new wallet through that old seed phrase but it appears completely empty.
Is there a history of any transactions on any of the addresses? It could be the person who gave your mother the wallet also kept a copy for himself, and after not seeing the funds move for several years, decided to take them back.

And at any time it requests me that login or password.
The password could well be an additional passphrase for the wallet. Try checking the box titled "Extend this seed with custom words" and entering the password. Do this both with and without the "BIP39 seed" box checked, and follow RickDeckard's instructions to "Detect Existing Accounts".
-> Thank you! I tried doing this, but it only works when I check the box "BIP39 Seed" + "Extend this seed with custom words". Then when it says "Seed extension" I type the password I had but it doesn't seem to work either...

I discovered that my mother opened this wallet in 2013. This friend opened a wallet for her and she says he put some BTC inside, and she put down all the seed, that's why I find very weird he didn't even put a small bit of old BTC once you have the wallet created... Regarding the fact that this friend took back the BTC, I'm not sure because I don't see anything in the history (but well I don't even have access to the wallet somehow). Maybe they didn't put really funds in there, but why create just a wallet if you don't put funds? Why would she not this annoying seed if there was any value on it?  Huh

If you have any other idea I can try let me know, I will try Smiley
Thank you in advance!

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5  Bitcoin / Electrum / Electrum lost wallet on: February 14, 2021, 11:52:42 PM
Hi,

last Christmas I found out that a friend of my mother gave to her some BTC in 2013-2014.
She doesn't speak to him anymore unfortunately, but she found a seed phrase, a login (of 5 letters) and a password.

She doesn't know anything about it, she's completely out of anything related to technology...

After some research, I think that the 12-word seed phrase looks like an Electrum old seed phrase.
When I try to recover it through Electrum, it creates a new wallet through that old seed phrase but it appears completely empty.

And at any time it requests me that login or password.

Do you think there is a way I'm doing something wrong? Should I check somewhere else to see if it works?

Unfortunately, Blockchain.info doesn't recognize the seed phrase, so I guess it's Electrum?
If you have any other idea or suggestion it would be amazing

Thanks

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