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1  Economy / Speculation / Re: This is why bitcoin is crashing on: January 14, 2015, 05:21:43 PM

A long time ago in Holland people bought flowers pretty much as they do now. By chance a farmer cultivated a tulip whose flowers were unusual, as such his flowers commanded a great premium and the farmer became rich. Other farmers saw this and bought his bulbs so they could cultivate their own. These farmers also became rich

A few intelligent farmers, rather then invest in the original bulb tried to create their own hybrids and many succeeded creating bulbs that were even better than the first. These farmers also became rich.

Within a couple of years, there were 500 or so different varieties and traders bought and sold bulbs and with all the excitement and publicity the price went up. These traders also became rich.

Some people realised that instead of leaving their money under the bed that if they bought a few bulbs and sold them a month later they could double their money. These people also became rich.

After 3 years the market was booming, strangely the original bulb was still worth more than the newer, improved varieties. Who knows why?

After 4 years everyone knew that bulbs were worth pretty much the same, you buy them to produce flowers in your garden.

TL;DR
The ones and zeros that programmers create are there to provide a service, a transaction. They are not for storage of wealth.



Great analogy. Obviously the people who are responding with "ah brah, the tulip thing again," did not correctly read your post. The people thinking this is another tulip post should listen more and speak less.
This is the important part - "The ones and zeros that programmers create are there to provide a service, a transaction. They are not for storage of wealth."
This get's us back to what all the wisest people in the bitcoin/crypto space have been saying since the beginning. The value is not as a currency, the value is the ledger.

2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Ribbitcoin | The World's Cash-Back Currency on: August 16, 2014, 04:44:49 AM
Reserved for questions, comments and insight.
Hop Forth!
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Coinomi] Multi coin wallet on: July 28, 2014, 05:23:08 PM
Very cool.
When you plan on having a stable version to release?
I signed up can't wait to give it a try.
*If possible it would be awesome to have more info on the site like FAQ with the different features, etc.
Great work so far.
4  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Multi Signature Address Script and Escrow Service on: July 19, 2014, 08:26:55 AM
Thank you for the link bro!
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin regulation in state of New York is announced. on: July 19, 2014, 06:10:44 AM
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It has little or nothing to do with regulating Bitcoin, its about regulating businesses within a certain jurisdiction that deal with both fiat currency and bitcoin, where's the problem in that? Fiat's involved so their government has a right to make rules, that's practically the definition of fiat.

EDIT:
is this what regulation will look like in all states/federally? looks kind of burdensome for businesses....

Looks like folks aren't doing much reading, this keeps getting mentioned and there's an article specifically exempting anyone that sends or receives bitcoin in exchange for goods or services from regulation, ie. businesses. (200.3 c 2).

You are wrong and it is very clear. Here is one example.
They create a virtual currency, even if it is decentralized. This includes creating altcoins. (200.2n5)
So creating an alt coin like Satoshi did would land you in jail if NYC found out.

6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin regulation in state of New York is announced. on: July 17, 2014, 09:37:11 PM
*tongue lashing snipped*
Here's the thing. Honeybadger don't care. NYCDFS can try to regulate all they want, their intention is to set folks up to fail. These regulations aren't about protecting the consumer, they're about protecting the status quo of failure. What they don't realise is that only the dumb businesses will try to comply without an exit strategy. The rest will decentralize.

+~9000
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin regulation in state of New York is announced. on: July 17, 2014, 09:34:25 PM
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It has little or nothing to do with regulating Bitcoin, its about regulating businesses within a certain jurisdiction that deal with both fiat currency and bitcoin, where's the problem in that? Fiat's involved so their government has a right to make rules, that's practically the definition of fiat.

Your sig - "In the future, in the Internet generation, every country will slowly relax sovereign control and even dilute the concept of sovereignty." How about we be cereal.
8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin regulation in state of New York is announced. on: July 17, 2014, 09:17:14 PM
 Embarrassed *that's the embarrassed smiley, I am using it for the first time in my life on any board.
I am embarrassed by the comments from some of the users on this board.

kingcolex > Doesn't seem too bad, I am sure with their name they give an address they will accept with and that way customers can prove they bought merchandise and get BTC back when it is defective and the retailer is breaking merchant laws.

runam0k > Exactly what people were expecting, I think - certainly no worse and it provides some certainty going forward.

DeathAndTaxes > A quick reading didn't find anything particularly unusual.  One nice provision is the regulatory is required to approve or deny an application within 90 days.  

howardb > No matter what the content, this is a Major milestone on the road to legitamacy for bitcoin, i'm amazed the price has not reacted more than it has. Perhaps word is slow to leak out, though it's been mentioned on CNBC already, interviews with the guy later today also.
> a milestone of what, everything that BTC doesn't stand for?

Cicero2.0 > This actually doesn't seem too bad after a cursory reading. It could have been much worse. The specifics on merchants not needing a license is a very good thing.

DannyElfman > This is great at it gives businesses more certainty regarding AML and other reporting requirements. It makes things very black and white.
> really great...you know the source code of btc was written for KYC/AML compliance. I am sure Satoshi is smiling and feeling great satisfaction.

LiteCoinGuy > good move, we should be glad that it is so positive.
> HAHA

Bit_Happy > Bitcoin prices are moderately higher, so the market seems to like this news. ???Moderately / The Market Huh

Ragnarly > "I'm shocked at the comments on this thread. Do you all work for JP Morgan or FinCen? The reddit thread has a deeper, broader analysis: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aycxs/hi_this_is_ben_lawsky_at_nydfs_here_are_the/"
>exactly bro...who are you guys saying how great this is? BTC was made to for the exact opposite of these rules.
I do feel for all the companies in the US that now have to deal with this, I would be pissed and scared.

souspeed > "Finally!"
Yes it's awesome isn't it? Lulz.

"The folks over at Reddit would be complaining with any kind of regulation that even mentions bitcoin. This is a pretty reasonable compromise. Basically it just applies existing KYC/AML rules to bitcoin companies that are exchanging currency. The fact that it doesn't apply onerous regulations to the average person buying something with bitcoins, or the average company accepting bitcoins in exchange for goods is huge. It sets a good precedent that won't hamper bitcoins growth."
> Haha, I love it, especially this part. "It sets a good precedent that won't hamper bitcoins growth."


>>I feel like I just found out I was adopted, or that my wife is a lesbian. What I did find out for sure is that a lot of the people here are not really in it for more than $. Who are you guys? If I was Satoshi I would fire you. BTC is officially dead. There is no reason to use it without the freedoms that it brings. We are talking about the same guys who run the US dollar, created the banking/housing crash of 2008, the ones who manipuate inflation, energy prices, politics, etc.
9  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Multi Signature Address Script and Escrow Service on: July 17, 2014, 03:58:42 PM
Will this be coming back?
Looks like an SSL error, I remember getting onto the site fine before, and then there was the ddos attack, it looks like something else is wrong now.
I would like to try it on testnet.
Hope to see this project continue on.
10  Economy / Services / Talented Wallet Developer Needed - Will Pay Well on: July 14, 2014, 07:05:41 PM
Hello I am looking for a talented wallet provider.
Our company already has the normal client side wallet/daemon.
We need someone who can add some very customized features to a wallet.

One of these items would be to add multi signature functionality to a custom coin/blockchain.
GUI skills are appreciated as well but secondary.

I can explain more via PM. A NDA may be requested to be signed along with identity confirmation.

Pay will be via btc or US dollars.
Also for someone that is a good fit and wants to work together long term a company equity % may be offered.

Please PM with any examples or successes you have had in the crypto world.
No flakes please, we are a friendly group but very serious about this project.
I look forward to hearing from a future team member.
Thank You.
11  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People need to stop calling Bitcoin "a virtual currency" on: July 06, 2014, 08:00:52 PM
I like the term "transparent currency."
This phrase works well with the way the currency is mined/generated and also the presentation of transactions that show on the blockchain.
It can also refer to open source code for the currencies.
I think the general public would understand transparent currency.

Cryptocurrency will never play out and gain adoption in general public which is where the technology needs to go in order to realize it's full potential. Regular users don't even need to know about blockchains, coin algo's, etc. they just want to know that if they need to buy something the currency they are holding will pay for it.

Calling them altcoins will never work either...especially when btc is not the leader anymore.

Ecurrency and digital money are pretty good terms too...but they carry the perception of things like paypal, egold, etc.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best Alt coin to invest in 2014 on: July 04, 2014, 08:37:51 PM
NXT / DRK / Monero / *I think counterparty is undervalued but it rides on the btc chain.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Donationcoin (DON) | 0% Mining Pool | Gravity Well | Exchanges | PoW on: June 25, 2014, 07:22:45 AM
How much has gone to charity so far?
14  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Overstock CEO Calls Bitcoin Code "Slop" on: June 23, 2014, 10:12:47 PM
Let's keep in mind that Satoshi was a genius, great programmer
Nope...

Genius maybe, good programmer probably too but definitely not "great".
Also he secured his premine by developing on Windows only. Wink

I didn't realize that on the Windows. I would still say he was great to get something implemented like bitcoin...but I get what you mean.
15  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Overstock CEO Calls Bitcoin Code "Slop" on: June 23, 2014, 05:26:53 PM
Patrick Byrne is not referring to downloading the blockchain or the size of it.
He is referring to the actual source code being sloppy and not easily scalable.
Let's keep in mind that Satoshi was a genius, great programmer and bitcoin was an experiment.
When coding something so complicated the V1 of the code has a lot of room for improvements.
Thus the reason many btc developers have concerns about the scalability of btc.
16  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is A joke and will never last. on: June 22, 2014, 08:57:03 AM
Maybe I take my comment above back.
Not sure if this users icon is the same or a joke with someone else using his icon (no time to fig thru it all as I am working).
https://i.imgur.com/q4TMHGL.jpg
*Either way...this place is an amazing place of great people merged with top of the line scum.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRYPT] CryptCoin x11 + PoS | P2P Anonymity | 0% Premine | now on MintPal! on: June 22, 2014, 07:27:39 AM
Hey guys, kind of concerned as I don't like people losing fiat...and especially not btc.
If this is not the same coin, please let me know and I will def. make a reply that I was wrong.
I was on reddit earlier and saw some links to these posts about a coin called crypt & glyph.
I am not expert so I wanted to ask if this insider trading/ pump and dump information was related to either crypt or glyph.
Once again if I am wrong I will gladly apologize.
See here. http://imgur.com/a/9JgUG
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: June 22, 2014, 06:20:34 AM
All the people wait for xmr add  to mintpal..But..What will happen after that ? good things ? bed things?

Depends on what you like, bed things can be good, and good things can happen in bed.
It's really not what you do, but how you do it.

19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't give support to anonymous developers never more, guys! They are scammers! on: June 22, 2014, 06:00:40 AM
I would recommend people treat a pseudonymous dev as a yellow flag - not a diagnostic certainty, merely a contra-indicator. Personally, I change it to red if I discover that the repository source has a commit total in single figures as this betrays shallow thinking leading to costly and ineffectual security theatre.

I look around and note that, with the occasional exception, the inarguably successful coins are characterised by a lack of pseudonymous devs. A few weeks ago we had an object lesson in how much media interest can be whipped up by an apparent resolution of a prominent pseudonym. The more visible/successful the brand, the greater the vacuum caused by continued inscrutability, especially so in a domain perceived by the media to be tantalisingly rich in tecchy mystique, rumour and tittle-tattle.

At some point, the dev's preference for remaining pseudonymous will almost certainly be overwhelmed by pressure from the coinholders as the coin's performance begins to suffer due to increasingly negative perceptions of that opacity.

Here's a snippet from CNN's reporting of Dogecoin:

“Ben Doernberg, a board member at the Dogecoin Foundation, said that raising the money for the sponsorship was done in record time. Beyond sports ventures, Dogecoin has raised money to build clean water wells in Kenya and for a charity that trains service animals to work with children with autism and other disabilities.
"We are all about fun and goofiness," Doernberg said. "At the same time, we want to make sure that digital currency is really giving back to the world. We do feel like this is a technology that can make the world a better place, and we want to put that into practice by doing fundraisers."
Doernberg said the NASCAR sponsorship is one of the largest fundraisers they've done to date.”

reads somewhat better than:

“scamhunter23, a board member at the Dungecoin Foundation, wrote that raising the money for the sponsorship was done in record time. Beyond sports ventures, Dungecoin has raised money to build clean water wells in Kenya and for a charity that trains service animals to work with children with autism and other disabilities.
"We are all about fun and goofiness," scamhunter23 wrote. "At the same time, we want to make sure that digital currency is really giving back to the world. We do feel like this is a technology that can make the world a better place, and we want to put that into practice by doing fundraisers."
scamhunter23 wrote the NASCAR sponsorship is one of the largest fundraisers they've done to date.”

In the context of the good works above, for a coin ambassador to use a pseudonym is at once both pretentious and incongruous. But someone has to be quoted in the media - it just won't be a pseudonymous dev, that's all. So the developing recognition factors for the coin brand identity will not include the dev and in time, the incongruity of the pseudonym ceases to become an issue as the dev's role becomes circumscribed to that of Chief Engineer, toiling away in the engine room.

Of course, neither Billy nor Jackson made that mistake, nor did Evan. Look around, you'll find quite a few people prepared to stake their reputation on their coin work, it's an invaluable signal to investors, I'd have thought.

Of course, if the dev has zero expectations of the coin receiving any significant media exposure (maybe because the coin has an anticipated lifespan shorter than the average mayfly), then a pseudonym can handily serve to conceal a cryptocurrency sideline from pals, boss and workmates. One unfortunate consequence is that punters are beginning to associate "pseudonymous" with "amateur", "hobby" and "long-absent" --- and those are the positive qualities, the negative ones all trivially boil down to "scaaaam".

There's always trouble money to be made when those who own the problem aren't those who own the solution. In this instance, it's indicated by the appearance of "backstage" altcoin dev teams fluidly forming and re-forming as required. The next stage will be marked by stable, branded teams, offering standards adherence, quality assurance, reliability and long-term in-depth support --- factors important to anyone with an interest in the coin.

I find myself asking: are "trustworthy" and "reliable" appropriate labels for someone who makes advance preparations to avoid taking responsibility for their actions by masking their identity with a pseudonym?

Hm.

Cheers,

Graham

Edit: s/own the answer/own the solution/ more precise

*Stands up, applauds, and then pumps fist in the air.
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is A joke and will never last. on: June 22, 2014, 04:57:04 AM
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to be clear Im not a NXT shill.  I'm a cryptocurrency expert.  I got involved with NXT fairly recently.  The NXT model is far more lucrative than Bitcoin.  I've also been involved with the PPC community and I've worked on other algorithms in the past.

No offense but PPcoin is not a well chosen name. If you want an altcoin to succeed it needs a good name.


'forging' is not exactly great either... but these things weren't created by marketing people they were created by engineers.

-bm


I respect your ability to speak logically and not emotively.
If we ever meet, your favorite beer, milkshake, coffee, maccha or whatever is on me :-)
 
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