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1  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Did I break my 5870? on: July 06, 2011, 05:10:13 AM
Bump.

Nobody has any ideas/suggestions/wisdom?
2  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Did I break my 5870? on: July 05, 2011, 02:15:30 AM
Haven't been mining for very long and I don't have a dedicated machine for it.  I only replaced my 8800gt a few weeks ago with an ASUS HD 5870.  I had been running it overnight at 1020 mhz core clock, 300 mhz mem clock, and about 74*C according to MSI afterburner.  When I got on in the morning I stopped mining on my standard miner and switched to a "low power" one (adds -s 0.01 to poclbm for when I want to actually use it to do something online).  Well, I ended up inadvertently clicking a youtube link and crashing the driver once it tried to play.  Not a huge deal I'd imagine, it's done that before, but then I stopped mining entirely and just reset everything to stock clock speeds.  When I went to try and play the video again, the computer just crashed completely, didn't give a blue screen or anything.  Now when I turn it on, the fans all turn on but the screen never comes on and it never reaches the POST beep.  Haven't really tried anything yet, I've been gone almost all day.  Just worried that I might have fried my card or something.  I've always let MSI automatically handle voltage, and always used custom fan settings to keep the card at about 75*C under full load mining.  Any suggestions on what I should do?

Thanks for your time.
3  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GUI mining - Phoenix 1.5 and new, faster poclbm on: July 05, 2011, 01:59:22 AM
Very happy with the performance on my HD 5870 with the latest update.  I can get identical speeds on poclbm (~450 mhash/s) as I can on phoenix's phatk, except poclbm is drastically lighter on the CPU than Phoenix is.  Great work, definitely worth a tip.
4  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Explaining bitcoin to friends on: July 03, 2011, 10:44:47 PM
It's fucking useless.


Sure i don't understand the cryptography behind it, but i find the general workings very easy to grasp.

When people start asking "what gives it value" is when i fail to explain properly. Even still. All i get is.


"pyramid scheme", "scam", and someone even went as far as to say "what are they doing with all that hashing power, it could be treason" - that was from someone who is mining with duel 6950s.  And that was even after i wrote out a really long paragraph of what all that hashing is for. Without the cryptography jargon because i don't know the technical aspects of it.

I may be bad at explaining things, but i quit. I will never try to explain bitcoin ever again. Sorry i've failed the community.

Part of the problem of understanding why BTC has value is because people take for granted that USD somehow has value (and gold somehow has value, etc.).  It's an awkward concept if you really think about it, but USD/Gold has always had value our whole lives, so I think that's why we generally don't worry about it. 

When people ask "what gives bitcoins value?" respond with "what makes gold valuable?"  There's no intrinsic value to gold, it's just a variance of metal.  It's not because it can be made to look nice, because other metals can be made to do that for a fraction of the cost.  It's all about rarity and demand.  Gold is rare and people want it, therefore it has value.  Perception is reality in the market, just making people think something has value can make it actually valuable.  It's just a matter of fomenting that initial demand.
5  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: July 03, 2011, 10:37:44 PM
Hi I am a pro when it comes to my knowledge about bitcoin and economic theory. But I am a "newbie" so I am only allowed to post in this section. Screw this, I would like to post some serious comments now!   

Yeah, I'm just cranking out a few posts so I can thank Kiv on the update to GUI Miner.  Almost there!
6  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Early adopters are not an issue. on: July 03, 2011, 10:35:44 PM
Early adopters (investors) have always done well in the market - you get rewarded for having faith in the system before it is proven that it will be successful.  I can never understand why people point that out as a weakness of BTC.  If that's a downside than buying shares of stock in any new company before it gets big is also as much of a "downside".
7  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: July 03, 2011, 10:29:08 PM
I'm Brett, but I've gone by bs, bsp, bsphil, and phil as well.  I've been into mining for about two months now, but have only recently gotten serious.  I built a new computer of my own for the first time which was a lot of fun to do, so now I have a great gaming PC that mines on an HD 5870 the rest of the time.  Get just shy of 450 mhash/s.  Cheesy
8  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: July 03, 2011, 08:03:14 PM
I've been a lightweight lurker for a little while now, but just now made an account to thank and tip Kiv for his recent GUI Miner update.  Not a huge deal though, I can tip silently too.   Tongue
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