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1  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of Sportsbooks. Ask books questions, problems and feedback on: July 03, 2014, 03:20:35 PM
Hey guys what's your views on betting with your btc? Do u like to just always keep your coins always in btc, do u switch over when u can to cash? I ask because I want all I bet with in btc and not all places have total btc which have cheaper lines but in usd and I'm trying find the best way to deal with this. I have many other books that are usd for this to choose from if I wanted my coins out of coins to bet with.


At Cointeller.eu customers typically keep balances in BTC, but on request we can convert customer balances at any site in the Cointeller.eu network to USD.  Unless the customer has a strong objection we use the 24 hour weighted price at BitcoinAverage.com for conversion.

Feel free to stop by and talk to a live support rep if you have any questions!

2  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of Sportsbooks. Ask books questions, problems and feedback on: July 02, 2014, 03:09:46 PM
@Fairlay, one of the Cointeller.eu sites is interested in contacting you about market-making.  What is the best way to put them in touch with you?  If any other exchanges see this and offer some kind of market-making incentive structure (and preferably a good API), send a private message with your contact details.
3  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] Cointeller.eu - Deposit Here, Play Everywhere! BTC Sportsbetting Concierge on: July 01, 2014, 07:33:49 PM


Another great example of the value of line shopping:  One of the Cointeller.eu members, Vrapo, is offering Belgium +105 on the 3-way ML.  Currently most offshore books are somewhere between +100 and -105.  When you are trying to make a profit sportsbetting, every cent counts!

Get access to these lines and more today at Cointeller.eu - Join now!
4  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] Cointeller.eu - Deposit Here, Play Everywhere! BTC Sportsbetting Concierge on: July 01, 2014, 03:26:43 PM

Line shopping is absolutely crucial for making a profit in sportsbetting, and Cointeller.eu is here to help you!


Here is another update on Cointeller.eu's series about Line Shopping.  Getting the best lines and prices is critical to making a profit in sportsbetting.  Many of the books in the Cointeller Network have a large percentage of their players in North America.  Could this offer some opportunities for Cointeller.eu customers to get a great price on today's USA vs Belgium World Cup game?

If you favor Belgium, the answer is definitely yes.  Two books in the Cointeller.eu Network, Instant Action Sports and BetOasis, currently have Belgium listed as +112 (2.12) on the 3-way ML and a spread of -0.5 goals at a price of +106 (2.06).  These prices are better than any public book you will find listed on your favorite odds websites and we expect these prices to continue climbing as books attempt to balance the public action coming in on USA.

By becoming a Cointeller member, you gain access to these lines and more.  Add to your repertoire, go beyond the on-screen, public, post up books, and start betting like a sharp with Cointeller.eu.

Stay tuned for more posts in our Line Shopping series!


5  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of Sportsbooks. Ask books questions, problems and feedback on: July 01, 2014, 01:39:42 AM
If these markets are posted on a 3rd-party site or with trustworthy escrow Cointeller.eu will join in immediately.  It might make more sense to do this outside of any site geared toward casino / sports gambling (such as betting exchanges) if possible.

Would anyone be interested in chatting more about this and exploring options on irc, cryptocat, or some equivalent service?
6  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] Cointeller.eu - Deposit Here, Play Everywhere! BTC Sportsbetting Concierge on: June 30, 2014, 09:03:28 PM

This was posted in another thread, but since the World Cup is so popular right now we thought we would copy it over here:

Many of the sportsbooks in the Cointeller Network are primarily focused on sports that are most popular in North America.  You may find that some of these sites might have better odds and more beatable lines on World Cup games than the typical European sportsbooks!

For example, ABCWagering, one member of the Cointeller Network, [was] offering Algeria +1.5 goals at a price of Even Money, while Pinnacle Sports and BetFair [were] charging 9 cents or more.

Line shopping is incredibly important in order to profit at sportsbetting, and Cointeller.eu is here to help!


In addition, time and again customers are complaining about tickets not being graded quickly.  Each of the sites in the Cointeller Network uses industry-leading sportsbetting software with clerks standing by to grade each game as it finishes.  It takes a long time to work out all the kinks in proper sportsbetting software, as a Cointeller customer you can take advantage of sites that have been around for a long time, whose software has already had these common bugs worked out!
7  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of Sportsbooks. Ask books questions, problems and feedback on: June 30, 2014, 07:12:01 PM
Some sort of 3rd party prediction market for existing sportsbooks and exchanges would be an incredibly forward-thinking way to build trust.  Cointeller would love to participate and heavily seed our side of the market. 

This could be a great way to build trust.  After all, if you don't trust us then bet against us!
8  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any Suggestion on World Cup betting site? on: June 30, 2014, 06:29:48 PM
Many of the sportsbooks in the Cointeller Network are primarily focused on sports that are most popular in North America.  You may find that some of these sites might have better odds and more beatable lines on World Cup games than the typical European sportsbooks!

For example, ABCWagering, one member of the Cointeller Network, is currently offering Algeria +1.5 goals at a price of Even Money, while Pinnacle Sports and BetFair are charging 9 cents or more.

Line shopping is incredibly important in order to profit at sportsbetting, and Cointeller.eu is here to help!
9  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] Cointeller.eu - Deposit Here, Play Everywhere! BTC Sportsbetting Concierge on: June 30, 2014, 06:21:59 PM


Our live chat support has just been launched! 


If you have any questions, head to http://Cointeller.eu and click on the link in the lower left hand corner to talk with a member of our support team.


- Cointeller.eu
10  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] Cointeller.eu - Deposit Here, Play Everywhere! BTC Sportsbetting Concierge on: June 30, 2014, 05:10:27 PM
Update from Cointeller.eu,

We have been in the process of revamping our support staff and support processes.  A number of support tickets submitted via our customer dashboard were marked as Completed by a member of the support staff when in fact they had not been addressed.

We have finished working through these support tickets, if you were affected by this, or if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us via this forum or the customer dashboard.

We will soon be releasing our live customer support chat system, which should allow for much better support and addressing of issues.

On a brighter note, we have been steadily growing since the launch of the Cointeller Network, and despite this temporary lapse in support our customers seem to be very pleased with the wide array of betting options available to them.  We hope to have some great news on new additions to the Cointeller Network soon!
11  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] Cointeller.eu - Deposit Here, Play Everywhere! BTC Sportsbetting Concierge on: May 07, 2014, 03:40:40 AM
I like the idea so I'm trying to think of an added benefit to using this service. Could you middle a bet at two books?  That is, are the odds at books in the network sometimes different so you can get over 209 and under 210.5 on a given nba game?

Yes, each site in the network has no knowledge of wagers placed at other network sites.

Are the transfers instant when you deposit and withdraw from a certain book?

All transfers between sites within the network are handled by a VIP Host.  We strive to answer all requests within a few minutes (including deposit and withdrawal messages), and transfers between sites in the Cointeller network are immediate.

Finally I do need to see someone posting that they've used the service before I would consider depositing.

Completely understandable.  As we have said earlier in this thread, Cointeller understands that the burden of proof falls upon us, and we hope that solid ratings and good customer service will show our stability in the long term.

If you have any more questions or would like to speak to a VIP Host, just sign up for free on Cointeller.eu (no personal information is or will ever be necessary) and send a message, you should receive a reply shortly!

12  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] Cointeller.eu - Deposit Here, Play Everywhere! BTC Sportsbetting Concierge on: May 07, 2014, 02:06:56 AM

Any profitable bettor will tell you that ten-cent lines are an absolute must-have in order to make a profit betting Major league Baseball.

These are just a few of the sites in the Cointeller.eu Network currently offer ten-cent lines with max bets of 6BTC or more:


    Instant Action Sports
     ABC Islands
     BetOasis



Why not use every advantage you can to win money?  Join the Cointeller.eu network today to profit with these great lines, live in-game wagering, live casino dealers, and more at Cointeller.eu!

More exciting news coming soon!

13  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] Cointeller.eu - Deposit Here, Play Everywhere! BTC Sportsbetting Concierge on: May 01, 2014, 06:03:58 PM
Line shopping is absolutely crucial for making a profit in sportsbetting, and Cointeller.eu is here to help you!


Over the next few days we are going to point out some lines and prices offered within the Cointeller Network that differ from the general market and might increase profits.


Thursday May 1:

528 Golden State Under 210 currently offered at ABC Islands.  We predict the current market price of 209.5 will be trending downward, getting 210 makes this a very attractive position.



By becoming a Cointeller member, you gain access to these lines and more.  Add to your repertoire, go beyond the on-screen, public, post up books, and start betting like a sharp with Cointeller.eu.


14  Economy / Gambling / Re: NBA Playoff 2014 - 0-0 YTD on: April 25, 2014, 02:47:48 PM
Clippers 1H -1
Hawks +2
Hawks under 187


3-0 as well.

Washington -3
Washington 1H over 91
Portland -3
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] Cointeller.eu - Deposit Here, Play Everywhere! BTC Sportsbetting Concierge on: April 25, 2014, 02:51:20 AM
Legions36,

You raise some interesting points.  I’ll try to respond to them.  

The term “agent” is a confusing a term within this industry with a mostly pejorative connotation.   The truth is an “agent” can be bookmaker with hundreds or thousands of customers, booked through a site he has contracted to do service/write his customers or it can be a little guy who operates at the bottom end of the food chain, meeting up with small number of local players hoping to extract a small percent of player losses.  In the case of all the sites on the Cointeller Network, the accounts are being booked by large, established bookmakers with a very large customer base.  In the future, I will probably be more inclined to describe our bookmakers as “pph bookmakers” as opposed to “agents.”  Both terms are accurate but the term “agent” is confusing and unnerving for many.  The owners of Cointeller.eu as well most of the bookmakers on the Cointeller Network have been in the offshore industry for over a decade.  Many of these individuals have worked with one another for years.  There is not a bookmaker on the list that Cointeller does not feel comfortable guaranteeing.


Additionally, you will not see any large bet sizes or ridiculous bonuses.  Initial maximum bet sizes will be in the 4-6 BTC range.  This will grow in time.  At the moment, no bookmakers are allowed to offer a bonus to players on the Cointeller Network.   There are a few pph bookmakers who are willing to offer a introductory bonus and others who are dead set against it.  Allowing bonuses to be offered by a few pph bookmakers is a a real disincentive to other potential bookmakers Cointeller is currently negotiating with.   At some point, small, on-time time bonuses will be allowed .   Cointeller is focused on gradual sustained growth.

 We realize trust is not awarded without a spotless history of prompt payouts and excellent customer service.  In the months and years to come, you will see more established, well known books appear and a lot of “bobo” books.  There is no difference in terms of risk associated with any of these books.  We realize some players like to see more well known books, while other (mostly sharp) players desire off-screen pph offices with unique numbers.  We believe Cointeller offers something of value for all types of players.  
Ok now it's time to consider to show some proof to all the good stuff u r saying. U say u have been in the industry for years as well as your bookmakers right? Then allow SBR or Peepsplace to look into your history more and verify everything u say to be true.
I cannot agree with what u said about SBR ratings as most of the time they are spot on, even though I don't agree with everything they have done. This raises a flag that u find the need to downplay the years they have been around. I have been with them for years and almost always followed them with good results.
Also u don't go for bonuses? This makes don't add up right, I love bonuses and feel if I want a bonus from a place then I deserve the right to have this.
What do u think about what I have said here? I also really hate that u feel all those books u have now are A+, when they really aren't even mediocre at best, the best thing they could offer players are bonuses and u won't even allow that. So people have no reason to use them when we can get better odds at other places.

I'm not surprised you like bonuses, most players do.  We are offering an anonymous betting service.  IMO, offering bonuses along with anonymity is foolish .  If our bookmakers want to offer such a product, I would advise them against doing it.  If you find solid betting services that offer BTC and bonuses I would you encourage you to take them.

Your analysis of A+/C- books ignores the fact that our vast majority of sportsbooks are pph bookmakers who have contracted to pph offices to write their action.  This is completely separate from the post up division of sportsbooks you are reading about. We have an established stable of bookmakers who are interesting in adding additional customers not start up sportsbooks throwing bonuses at the masses in an attempt  to instantly grow a customer base.

I appreciate your carefulness and the fact you don't know anything about us.  For your own sake, please maintain the same level of caution when you are offered BTC, bonuses and low juice.
16  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 25, 2014, 02:18:29 AM
Sorry, did not see your questions.  

Yes, of course we will pay in the event a book can not. As a matter of fact, you would never know there was an issue with that bookmaker because the Cointeller VIP Host transfers all BTC balances from sportsbooks to Cointeller.  This process occurs 7 days week and the sportsbooks themselves are not involved with this process.  Each deposit/withdrawal a customer makes has an inverse transaction on the sporsbook's Cointeller account.  If unable to maintain a positive balance, the sportsbook will be removed from the Cointeller Network.  In this scenario, all BTC balances would be returned to a customer's Cointeller wallet.  

This guarentee is the MOST IMPORTANT part of the Cointeller product.  The moment one customer is "slow paid", or "no paid" , the Cointeller reputation is permantly broken.  Cointeller will not let one customer go unpaid.


I have a question for u? Why would u put your reputation for totally trash books? The books u have now either have had trouble in the past or just no name books that mean nothing and funds are not safe with them. U just expect people to trust u just because u came here last week with this?
I know this for sure I have heard these same promises only to screw players.
I also just noticed that on your site it says your bookmakers are A+, so not true actually either unrated or C at best according to SBR and that's just because they feel bad for them. Care to fill in the blank on this too?
At this point it looks like your trying to fool people.


You sound slightly skeptical.   I understand that you don't have a great deal of faith in our roster of books.  If Cointeller.eu this was a scam, it is a truly horribly organized one.  We have not offered a single bonus to anyone and, by design, we have very small limits.  There is no incentive for anyone to keep substantial funds on deposit with us (no one trapped with rollover requirements, etc). Everything we have done so far, every decision made, is focused on slow, methodical growth and the development of trust in the Cointeller concept.
Of course I'm skeptical because I have personally read what some of your list of bookmakers have done to its customers, and it's beyond bad, I mean really bad by so many people at a time.
Also u don't even allow players to get rewarded with bonuses from your books which is total bs if u ask me, now we really have no reason to even risk playing with those books. Do u know how many places offer reduced juice and are safe? So why play with your books now, because of ease of moving around deposits but we have no added use or anything to entice us for this.

Sharp post.  We are scammers by not offering bonuses or reduced juice?  I think have an optoin for you.  Have you considered asianconnect88?  They offer Pinnacle and SBObet.
17  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 25, 2014, 02:15:15 AM
Peeps, I just came across this site here:

http://www.asianconnect88.com/

Have you ever heard of them? They appear to be some sort of introducing agent and they also accept Bitcoin!

one of the more strange  LIVE CHATS form customer service..who knows..

Chat started
c
quesiont on your site!
Asianconnect joined the chat
Asianconnect
Hi SIr
c
do you allow anyone living in the USA to join and send you bitcoins
Asianconnect
Yes Sir, but as of the moment it is not available
c
so USA can join?
Asianconnect
Yes Sir
c
how can a USA deposit?  what method
how can a USA deposit?  what method
Asianconnect
with the use of bitcoins sir
c
then why did you say earlier this  Sir, but as of the moment it is not available
c
Asianconnect
yes Sir, once our bitcoin available US residence can now use our services
c
when tomorrow?  next week?
when tomorrow ?  next week?
Asianconnect
we can't say the exact time Sir, but rest assured we will inform you once the person in charge is around


I got similar answers to the same questions.  They offer a VPN service to anyone who signs up, so I don't think they really care where you are located.  
18  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings and Reviews of all the bitcoin sports books. Poster input appreciated. on: April 25, 2014, 02:08:47 AM
Sorry, did not see your questions.  

Yes, of course we will pay in the event a book can not. As a matter of fact, you would never know there was an issue with that bookmaker because the Cointeller VIP Host transfers all BTC balances from sportsbooks to Cointeller.  This process occurs 7 days week and the sportsbooks themselves are not involved with this process.  Each deposit/withdrawal a customer makes has an inverse transaction on the sporsbook's Cointeller account.  If unable to maintain a positive balance, the sportsbook will be removed from the Cointeller Network.  In this scenario, all BTC balances would be returned to a customer's Cointeller wallet.  

This guarentee is the MOST IMPORTANT part of the Cointeller product.  The moment one customer is "slow paid", or "no paid" , the Cointeller reputation is permantly broken.  Cointeller will not let one customer go unpaid.


I have a question for u? Why would u put your reputation for totally trash books? The books u have now either have had trouble in the past or just no name books that mean nothing and funds are not safe with them. U just expect people to trust u just because u came here last week with this?
I know this for sure I have heard these same promises only to screw players.
I also just noticed that on your site it says your bookmakers are A+, so not true actually either unrated or C at best according to SBR and that's just because they feel bad for them. Care to fill in the blank on this too?
At this point it looks like your trying to fool people.


You sound slightly skeptical.   I understand that you don't have a great deal of faith in our roster of books.  If Cointeller.eu this was a scam, it is a truly horribly organized one.  We have not offered a single bonus to anyone and, by design, we have very small limits.  There is no incentive for anyone to keep substantial funds on deposit with us (no one trapped with rollover requirements, etc). Everything we have done so far, every decision made, is focused on slow, methodical growth and the development of trust in the Cointeller concept.
19  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] Cointeller.eu - Deposit Here, Play Everywhere! BTC Sportsbetting Concierge on: April 25, 2014, 01:50:06 AM
Each bookmaker can enable/disable horses/or casino.  No one has come forward with a horses version yet.  I will keep an eye out for that.  I know DirecBet has horses, have you tried them?
20  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] Cointeller.eu - Deposit Here, Play Everywhere! BTC Sportsbetting Concierge on: April 24, 2014, 11:11:05 PM
No verification, No ID.  You are completely anonymous.  We provide you with the accounts from the sportsbooks. 
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