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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PhoenixMiner 5.5c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux) on: March 25, 2021, 03:49:16 PM
Just a note for the Devs:

It would be great to have a feature to limit the mining power of new NVIDIA cards, taking into VRAM junction temps... I'm not sure if that's possible, but if I would have a parameter to let the miner knows that I don't want to go over (let's say) 90ª on VRAMs Junctions and the miner would reduce the power to achieve that...would be awesome....

Just a silly idea, but wanted to share it with you.
hope it helps
Regards,
AT'
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PhoenixMiner 5.5c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux) on: March 22, 2021, 08:49:10 PM
I just tried clKernel 3 and the result is this:

GPU1 The option -clKernel 3 is ignored for GPU1

Code:
2021.03.22:15:10:10.520: main Cmd line: -pool ssl://us1.ethermine.org:5555 -wal xxx -proto 3 -clkernel 3 -rmode 2 -mt 2 -mi 12 
2021.03.22:15:10:10.520: main No CUDA driver found
2021.03.22:15:10:12.069: main OpenCL driver version: 21.1.1
2021.03.22:15:10:12.079: main Available GPUs for mining:
2021.03.22:15:10:12.079: main GPU1: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (pcie 3), OpenCL 2.0, 16 GB VRAM, 30 CUs
2021.03.22:15:10:18.984: GPU1 The option -clKernel 3 is ignored for GPU1
2021.03.22:15:10:19.574: GPU1 GPU1: Free VRAM: 15.922 GB; used: 0.063 GB

Any hints?

Would be great to have a word from the devs.... looks like a bug... and not sure at this point if kernel 3 needs the double size of the actual dag as stated a few msg before or not....
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PhoenixMiner 5.5c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux) on: March 22, 2021, 01:44:23 PM
clkernel 3 needs around the double size of the actual dag, so you need more than 8gb to use clkernel 3.

Make sense! They should included that note on the documentation for sure. I think I will be not able to get more than that on my oldy 580 Smiley Thanks sxemini!
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PhoenixMiner 5.5c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux) on: March 22, 2021, 01:33:07 PM
Guys, sorry for asking again, but I can't find any documentation about the error I'm getting:

GPU1 The option -clKernel 3 is ignored for GPU1 (not enough VRAM)

It's happening with a RX580 8GB, epoc 402. I can only use clKernel 1.

Any ideas?

Have you increased your system V Memory  I forget the equation but its like DAG Size * No. of GPU's + 16GB = xxx VRAM Size
FWIW: on my x10 RX580's rig I have set 90GB Virtual Memory / Page file.

Setting -eres 0 may help..

I went through a number of attempts to get all GPU's locked into clKernel 3 but in the end it worked out better clKernel 1 (for me, anyway !)
If i remember correctly, I had to config it to only apply to my GPU's which are running samsung memory. This may just be fluke but for some reason Hynix/Micron mem types were just not happy .
I got it to play ball, it went a little something like this:
clKernel = 3,1,3,3,1,1,3,3,3,1
Like on my my RX580 rig my GPU's are mapped according to memory timing/ASIC quality like this:-  FAST,SLOW,MID,FAST,SLOW,FAST,FAST,FAST,SLOW,FAST (Samsung = fast) (Micron = Mid) (Hynx = Slow)
That is how I got clKernel to stick and run stable BUT after more testing clKernel 1 and setting the mt 2 = higher hashrate

Example below of my config I set a static -gt to get the rig to load up the DAG's. AFTER I have a share then i go to work on my core and memory voltage and clock speeds in OverdriveNTool
Then I just hit the "Z" in PheonixMiner to auto-tune it. (make a seperate not of new -gt val's or revert back to old values. )

-cclock 1175,1150,1150,1150,1150,1150,1150,1150,1150,1150
-mclock 2150
-cvdcc 925,875,875,875,875,875,875,875,875,875  (Stock 1150)
-mvddc 925    (Stock 950)

Code:
-gpus 0123456789 
-altinit
-mi 14
-gt 57,75,64,60,76,65,62,62,71,63
-sci 0
-clKernel 1 <<===== HERE
-clgreen 1
-clNew 1  <===== This Generates new Kernel use when testing clKernel 3 > 1
-clf 1   <== Syncs over gpu's
-minRigSpeed 285
-dagrestart 2
...
-powlim 0
-mt 2 <====== HERE
-leavemt

FYI: Pro Tip take a look at OverdriveNTool As it slashed my power draw down easily by like 33% from ~120w - 130W / card. Now, down to like ~95w / card
plus I can push the memory clocks up between 2170 (on my SLOW GPU) 2230 (On My FAST Gpu's) but i generate to many HW Errors and stales/incorrect shares start to crop up so Im happy @ *:2150 ..

Code:
GPU0: 51C 24% 94W, GPU1: 46C 4% 92W, GPU2: 57C 44% 98W, GPU3: 54C 36% 100W, GPU4: 50C 20% 88W, GPU5: 53C 38% 87W, GPU6: 53C 26% 88W, GPU7: 53C 32% 91W, GPU8: 49C 16% 87W, GPU9: 53C 36% 98W
GPUs power: 921.7 W; total power: 1066.7 W; cost: 4.61 USD/day

~ 300Mh/s @ 1066 W + 140w over estimate = 1206w MAX
Code:
Eth speed: 297.516 MH/s, shares: 26486/2/0, time: 27:23  

A More of a complete answer, however I hope this helps you get ideas on where to look for optimisation of your mining rig.
Just get it running stable clKernel 1 1st then get it to accept -mt 2  (maybe different for you clKernel 3 maybe better and mt 0 , test i guess..)
once, you happy with hashrate, head into OverDriveNTool to start scalping the power draws down / per GPU.
That is where i have made most progress is in regards to power draw.  Multiple savings from 24/7 mining over multiple rigs you get the picture.

Thanks majika for such a detailed answer. Really appreciated. But my question is related to why I can't use Kernel 3. I've already fine tuned my RX580 and is running at 32.745 MH/s at 88W without any issues nor incorrect/rejected shares (https://imgur.com/wD2uCDJ), and I could be breaking the 33 if I could use Kernel 3 (I've benched it with a lower epoc and is working)....but still wondering why I can't use kernel 3 on epoc 402 with this card...

I've tried adding more virtual memor...eres 0... etc etc....without luck.... idk why Phoenix is telling me I have no enough VRAM for running Kernel 3....and I cant find much on internet about it....


5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PhoenixMiner 5.5c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux) on: March 22, 2021, 04:27:53 AM
Guys, sorry for asking again, but I can't find any documentation about the error I'm getting:

GPU1 The option -clKernel 3 is ignored for GPU1 (not enough VRAM)

It's happening with a RX580 8GB, epoc 402. I can only use clKernel 1.

Any ideas?
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PhoenixMiner 5.5c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux) on: March 21, 2021, 10:37:26 PM
This is the error:

2021.03.21:19:31:59.444: GPU1 Light cache generated in 3.7 s (17.9 MB/s)
2021.03.21:19:32:00.342: GPU1 GPU1: Free VRAM: 7.948 GB; used: 0.052 GB
2021.03.21:19:32:00.342: GPU1 The option -clKernel 3 is ignored for GPU1 (not enough VRAM)
2021.03.21:19:32:00.342: GPU1 GPU1: Allocating DAG (4.16) GB; good for epoch up to #404
2021.03.21:19:32:00.350: GPU1 GPU1: Generating DAG for epoch #402
2021.03.21:19:32:07.984: GPU1 GPU1: DAG generated in 7.6 s (555.4 MB/s)
2021.03.21:19:32:07.986: GPU1 GPU1: Using Ethash OCL kernels (Ellesmere; -clkernel 1)

Still wondering how many GBs do you need to use Kernel 3. Benching in a lower epoch, I'm getting 0.250 more MHs with Kernel 3 than 1....
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PhoenixMiner 5.5c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux) on: March 21, 2021, 05:12:53 PM
Hi guys, I have an Rx580 8gb. Im running 5.5c mining ETH pool but when I try to use clkernel 3 (turbo) it shows that I dont have enough VRAM. Do i need more than 8gb card for using it? it works well using -bench, but once removed....i cant. thanks in advance!
Use the default kernel and use -bench. after it finish the benchmark check at which -gt value the card is set, you can do that using the + or - on the numpad. If you press + press - so it is back to the -gt value, if you press - first them press + to set it back to the -gt value
Once you got the -gt value, add the -gt <value> parameter in your .bat, remove the -bench and see if it works.

it’s not working. As soon as I start the miner, it shows that there is not enough vram and change the kernel to 1
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PhoenixMiner 5.5c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux) on: March 21, 2021, 03:51:01 PM
Hi guys, I have an Rx580 8gb. Im running 5.5c mining ETH pool but when I try to use clkernel 3 (turbo) it shows that I dont have enough VRAM. Do i need more than 8gb card for using it? it works well using -bench, but once removed....i cant. thanks in advance!
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