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If you actually click on the individual transactions, it should show you the fees Great, thk you @HCP for this trick Yes, I understand about the fast sync giving you an incorrect balance, . This fake balance was very close of what I thought I had lost. What a pity, but that's life! Thank you very much for all your posts, explanations. It has been a pleasure to exchange with you. Kind regards May |
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About the only thing you can do is use a wallet that allows the setting of custom fees and try to be more aware of the network status at the time you go to send a transaction... Hi @HCP, Well, in fact I didn't touch the wallet since 2017. Between 2016 an 2017, I made many transactions. Now when I am looking at the history of multibit HD in the panel, I don't see any fees https://snipboard.io/zsugFD.jpg. This screen capture is today. When I export the csv file from multibit HD, I have these 'transactions fees that appear', I don't really understand because I didn't notice these fees in 2016-2017. https://snipboard.io/VqDgCs.jpgThe only transaction I made since this period was with BRD 2 weeks ago, and they have a mode slow (=low fees), and it was transparent. No huge amount. So where these fees come from, I don't know. I have to admit, it's quite technical for me. In 2017, I didn't know nothing about bitcoin. And I still don't know so much. I thank you very much for this information. It will help me. by occasionally consolidating your inputs when the network is not busy I am gonna try to understand this. If you have time and if you want to have a look at the csv file, you can give me your mail, no matter for me. You are a great help since the beginning but I have to confess I am still in the smog. I should follow a course on the blockchain  |
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Crazy that the fees made such a huge difference to the balance! That's quite a substantial amount spent! Shocked Yes...not cool. Do you think @HCP there was anyway to escape this "substantial amount"? I would like to have more info about BRD Fast sync, but for the moment I have not. I am gonna send a new message. I am trying to recover old multibit HD transaction history to see if these transactions are in it. I am a little bit confused about this balance 0.38 => 0.04. I am gonna dig a little bit. I will tell you if i get more info. Thkx for your help to make me understand this craziness  May |
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@HCP so after have been verifying 2 or 3 times, I finally added the fees and the total match the balance showed in BRD slow sync or eletcrum. I am gonna continue to better understand what was these 3 transactions that don't appear in Fast Sync. Do you have any the idea why these 3 transactions didn't appear at first ? Thank your for your great help  |
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Is the transaction history showing a transaction spending the balance? If so, when was it spent? recently or several years ago? Huh @HCP, no it's not. I compared BRD Fast sync csv file with BRD slow sync csv file. I noticed 3 transactions that don't appear in Fast sync. BRD Fast sync sum = 0,41329236 BTC BRD Slow sync sum (after synchronization) = 0,01390002 BTC the 3 transactions correspond exactly to the difference between the two results. So I don't know what to think. Because my wallet displays actually 0.00382 BTC and it should be at least 0,01390002 BTC I verified one by one all the transactions in btc.com (addresses). so if you have any suggestion, you are welcome Thks for your help |
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Hello @HCP, Ahhhhh ok... Electrum tends to show just the transaction fee when it detects a transaction that sends funds to purely to yourself... ie. you're sending to one of your own receive addresses.
Rather than show 1 send transaction and 1 receive transaction... Electrum rolls them into one transaction and shows the total "net" effect to the wallet balance... which will just be the cost of the transaction fee. Ok, it makes sense. Thank you very much for this explanation. All this stuff is new for me and a little bit confusing i have to admit. But I think that finally, we have touch the issue...unfortunately for me, my initial balance is gone...for ever. You have been a great help for me |
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I join a screen capture of a csv file where I added BRD Slow sync amount + BRD Fast Sync amount + Electrum https://snipboard.io/nYVBCj.jpg I selected a transaction 0.10101943 BTC (BRD Fast sync mode). BRD slow sync displays -0,0001 and Electrum displays -0,0002 BTC  And here is the blockchain.com address explorer https://snipboard.io/RafwYK.jpgIt seems that Electrum and BRD slow sync show just the fee transaction. What do you think ? |
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@HCP no, sorry it's the opposite. The screen capture shows BRD Fast sync.
Now, when i reinstall BRD wallet in Fast Sync Mode 0.38 BTC has disappeared. Probably due to the new transaction I made.
I am trying to verify all transactions between different wallets. And they don't match. For some transactions I have a difference between BRD and electrum . For example (transaction with the same address), in BRD (Fast sync and Low sync) i have -0,11461172 BTC and with electrum -0,11471172 BTC. It's not a huge difference but it's weird, no ? I verified blockchain.com and it's BRD who's right.
How is this possible ?
Thx
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You can't lose BTC during the BCH fork. The only possible way you could possibly lose your BTC is if *after* the fork, you (somehow) tried to incorrectly claim the BCH before you sent the BTC to some other address first. Thanks @NotATether for the explanation. |
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Thank you @HCP for your answer. I understand better the code to pu tin the console. That *might* explain the differences if the first wallet was showing mBTC while Electrum was showing BTC and you've just missed a 0 and the balances are actually 0.38 mBTC and 0.0004 BTC In fact no, the settings were ok. https://snipboard.io/xj9bAD.jpgFollowing your advice and BRD suggestions, I let the BRD wallet sync in slow mode and made a transaction. Then I tried to understand the gap between balance by analyzing csv files. In BRD Fast sync, 4 transactions are missing. I tried to verify with block but for one address, I have many transactions that don't match my csv files. I am gonna send all these csv files to BRD support. My question is: is it possible that I lost BTC during a fork or BCH creation? |
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@HCP, ok thank you for your clear explanations. So here si what I found, history csv file from BRD and electrum don't match, and worst they are not in the same order I have transactions in BRD that don't correspond when compared with Blockcypher. Transactions error in BRD file that I noticed: - 16bZrJtUN6Z8vem25mmYcQsYdNNpK914zv
this address returns many transaction in BRD file from various send adresses. Sometimes, it seems that the wallet has split the amount from the same address. When I try to add up all these little amount from the BRD file, this doesn't match the blockcypher result. - 1hdcAse8SiFDnoDwAKqNA1CnRMZ6gxrtK
-0.09550433999999999 in BRD and 0,00097 in Blockcypher - 15mhRUaBCx9M4dnC3RV8kPgEDwKV4xxehE
-0.01391466 in BRD and 1,18839466 in Blockcypher [/list] So, i am gonna try to let BRD wallet sync in slow mode and after compare both csv files. To generate more addresses you can use the command on the Electrum "console" (you might need to use "View -> Show Console" to see the console tab):
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[wallet.create_new_address(False) for i in range(50)]
Every time you type that, it will generate 50 more addresses... you can change 50 to whatever number you like, but you probably don't need to generate more than a few hundred to be relatively sure that the "missing" funds are not hiding past the gap limit.
to be 100% sure you should also try:
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[wallet.create_new_address(True) for i in range(50)]
I tried both code but I didn't notice any change with the history or with the balance. I put in range(300). Why to use different boolean operators in this code ? denomination: ok, I had changed it in BTC when i recovered the wallet. Your help is crucial for me and it's also very interesting to exchange on this topic. Any ideas are welcome. Mat |
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Hello, Thank you @ranochigo, @NotATether, @HCP for your answers. I am gonna try to reply as much concise I can. HCP:Did you select "I already have a seed -> Options (BIP39 seed) -> entered the 12 word recovery words -> set derivation path to m/0'" ? Yes it's what I did with electrum wallet, and the balance is divided by 100. If I don't select these options, I have nothing. I don't have password keys they are encrypted in aes file. I want to specify, I didn't make any transaction with electrum wallet. With BRD in fast sync, I couldn't. HCP: As for BRD, it seems like there might be an issue with it syncing properly... so it isn't showing the correct transaction history/balance. Yes, it's what BRD support think. There is an issue with fast sync mode. May be the initial balance is wrong ? I must admit that I would prefer to access to the balance: 0.38 than 0.004. I almost 90% sure it's the correct balance, the balance when the multibit crashed. 0.004 doesn't make sense for me. NotATether: That sounds like a transaction has been made that spent exactly 99% of your bitcoins No, I forgot this wallet for a long time. No transaction since 2017. Or you think something else ? NotATether: when in doubt, check your address balance in a block explorer Great suggestion. How do you do that? I would like to check this before let the BRD synchronize completely. Ranochigo: Did you check the denomination used in Electrum? "denomination" ? You mean bip39 => m/0 ? Yes, it's what I did. In fact, I wanted to try your method with password keys imported, and adjust fees before sweeping following this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311792.0. But unfortunately, I don't have access to password keys because of encryption. With seeds in electrum, I cannot adjust fees during the recovery process. Is this normal ? So every advices are precious. Thank you for your help |
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Hi, A few days ago I could reactivate an old multibit HD wallet (crashed in 2017) on BRD, using password seeds. The balance of BTC is similar in my memory and I could extract all transactions between 2016 and 2017 to verify the balance. Here is my issue: I have the right balance on BRD(Fast Sync mode) but I cannot transfer it neither exchange it. In Electrum, the balance is completely different (around 100 times less). When I try to sync BRD with normal sync, arrived around 32% of sync, my balance is divided by 100 like on electrum. I stopped the normal sync on BRD. I reinstalled the BRD wallet and in fast sync, my initial balance reappeared. Here are my questions: • Why the balance is different between BRD fast sync and electrum ? (I read somewhere that multibit HD had very low low fees ) • Is there any risk to loose BTC during sweeping process because of these multibit low fees? • Do I have to adjust fees in BRD or electrum to preserve my balance ? BRD team answer: • They don't understand why I cannot transfer the BTC • They advice me "normal sync mode" and to wait until final synchronisation, according to them, I have no risk to loose my initial balance (because of fees) during sweeping process. I am little bit lost. To adjust fees in electrum, it seems i need password keys but they are encrypted in aes. Every advices are welcome Mat |
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@ranochigo, I have the aes file from multibit HD + password seeds. I imagine I have to decrypt aes file (Mac os) to access the private keys ? In BRD they have also "assert a private key" but they ask for a QR code ... Crazy world ! |
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Hello guys,
I am joining this post because I think I am facing the same issue as Frank 717. I had some old btc stuck in a multibit classic or hd, I can't remember exactly. I had lost access during a multlbit update. I managed to get my hands on them again using my seeds password on BRD. I can see them in BRD wallet but I can't do anything with them (no transfer, no exchange => transaction failed or error). I guess it's a fee problem.
If I use electrum, bip39, etc... the amount of my btc is divided by 100 after being swept. How can I lower the fees?
I could verify the initial amount of btc by analyzing all transactions between 2016 and 2017.
I don't have private keys, I'm trying to find them with easeus recovery but I don't know if the datas are still there.
Any advice is welcome.
Mat
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Hello the community, Few days ago, I tried to recover my old multibit HD. Last transactions with my multibit HD occured in december 2017. After an update, I couldn't restore the wallet so I fed up. So 2 days ago, I read that it was possible to restore an old multibit HD with BRD and electrum (I had password seed). I tried both wallets. With BRD, I have the right amount and all transactions but I cannot move the funds, neither exchange them in another currency. With electrum, I have also all transactions (same that BRD) but I don't have the same amount. I have 1000 less. Why ? I calculate all the past transactions in Google Sheet and the right amount I should have is BRD. Is there any way to access the right amount on my BRD. What's the problem with electrum ? Fees ? Forks ? Thanks for your help Mat |
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