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Hey guys thank you so much for the ideas and discussions!
I spent some time to make it, now it is demo and live on Telegram - check it out t.me/drocketsbot
For now it only has mock game, I'll launch live trading in couple of days!
Thank you again for your ideas, it's been super helpful, and made huge contributions to this project
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Well, it is just the rewards that make people become traders but what will happen to them after? I won't expect them to stay long if they will never get any unless the reward is continuous. I won't say these things are not effective but still in the question of how interesting it is to the community. Because what I see is that if you want someone to follow you and become a trader, you will also show them how good you are. Words are not too influential but it is our outputs. If they saw us become rich in trading and earning a lot of money, it also plays in their mind that trading could make them rich as well.
We can't please everyone to try trading nor force them to do, much more of fooling them. We can do all of those things OP but as usual, we can't assume that all we talked with will follow.
Yeah the system has two parts; the first game is a cash-rewarding game, to help users prepare and get motivated to join the live trading(the second part. Oh forgot to mention users can only follow others in live trading. |
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But for point #1, how will users be able to experience blockchain transactions and price fluctuations? If all they will do is bet on BTC or TON, that means there is no buying and no transactions at all because this is all within the game.
In living trading users will buy BTC/TON with their usdt in their TON wallet, but before that, the game is a mock up of the crucial market hha |
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Can't those be achieved on exchanges we already have today? some have simplified version as well which makes it user friendly. Further, experience on a full fledged market would be better.
TBH, I think this game feels like something our gambler folks may be interested in. You can try to create an ANN thread in the gambling board if you're interested haha
Thanks, mate, let me check the vibe there first, lol. I personally love to use Binance, but I can sense that it's just too hard for the masses, as I replied to the #6 post. I can even deploy a smart contract to buy Bitcoin automatically from the user's TON wallet balance in live trading, I wonder if that's a cool idea, it is to a Bitcoin Maxi tho haha. The user will be able to sell at any time if they need some cash but overall it's all for Bitcoin HODL. |
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The beauty of trading is that it is always full of new techniques and concepts which help people to learn new ways to earn. So how would beginner learn if they're just made to follow the big traders.
I think you should re think a little the Initiative is good but the points needs to be polished a little so that from each point of view it should be perfect.
That's true! Learning and earning are great things. I try to do the same, too. The only difference we have here is that I focus on the left part of the bell curve, those "really bad at investing" ones, lol. The best way for them to earn is to join this bull rally and HODL Bitcoin(DCA on Bitcoin) since this strategy has been shown to outrun ALL other strategies in the Bitcoin Bull market for over 90% of people. |
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You have to know who this strategy will work for and also know who the strategy of simply explaining what bitcoin is will work for, so your actions to try to bring someone to bitcoins as they did to me will be effective.
Yeah, that's it! Thank you so much to point it out! I give it some thorough thought, based on my experiences of onboarding friends, family, and friends' friends - Most of them only know Bitcoin is good(yeah they know, and they want to buy) but have no means to start buying any. They need totally different things than us experienced traders. I observed three reasons: two of them are internal and one is external: Internal 1: Friction. Exchanges are so hard to understand that if I imagine my mom opening Binance or Uniswap, 37 out of 40 buttons would confuse her, and that scares people. Not to mention those who aren't interested in downloading apps like Binance or wallets. But if we put the whole system in Telegram and make it easy to understand and use, it would make a difference. Internal 2: Drive. If a non-IT background crypto-curious person doesn't have a HODLer friend around telling them they earned 300% in Bitcoin in the last bull cycle, they would have little drive to start learning. TBH, not many people (real big fish) brag about this often. If we build a community that allows people to observe others earning by HODLing while playing the game, it would create that drive. External: Rug pulls/hackers/... Newbies have heard of news about collapsed exchanges/projects, and it scares them. The solution here is to limit them to only two of the most solid coins to invest in(after totally convincing them). At the mean time let them experience the volatility in the first game, let them feel the pain, and realize daily trading is not for everyone. Maybe I have a 20% win rate, and the sane part of me will take over and just let someone with a 75% win rate take over. So that's the target users I'm looking for, how does it sound? |
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I've been a Bitcoin holder since 2017, and thanks to Bitcoin, I no longer have to worry about my life. Now, I'm helping more people recognize the failures and collapse of the traditional financial system. I've created a product to help non-IT background crypto curious to understand the crypto market and start accumulating Bitcoin. After many trials and errors, I finally developed the best solution with a simple learning curve. Try to improve this idea!
First, this is a mini app on Telegram. It creates a game where users will receive $30 to bet on BTC or TON (TON has potential and is the native asset in Telegram, making transactions on the TON chain easier). Every 6 hours, the coin with the higher growth wins, and they can take 1/3 of the other team's pot, while the losing team will incur an additional 1/3 loss to the treasury to incentivize new users. Users can discuss in the community, and after 20 rounds of the game, users can withdraw all the remaining balance.
In this game, we can allow users to:
1. Experience blockchain transactions and price fluctuations
2. Discuss Bitcoin and learn within the community
3. Realize that frequent trading can lead to losses (learn to avoid FOMO/FUD, and HODL instead)
After this, we will introduce live trading to the users. Like the first game, you need to choose between two options, but there is no penalty between the two sides. If the user chooses Bitcoin, we will use all their TON to buy Bitcoin(in the built-in Telegram non-custodial wallet). Moreover, since we have filtered out high-win-rate users in the first game, in live trading, low-win-rate users can copy the trading strategies of high-win-rate users. Copying others' trading strategies will be charged a 1% profit share (a very small portion). At this time, the system will achieve a balance where:
1. Since BTC and TON are very valuable, users won't be harvested by large funds and very likely win a decent beta in the bull market.
2. Beginners don't need to manage anything; they just need to buy BTC or TON or follow the choices of advanced traders.
3. Experienced users like us can help beginners stabilize their mindset and HODL BTC/TON.
4. The entire system earns enough operational fees through transaction fees.
What do you think of this idea? DM me if you have anything to say or can provide help!
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Use the Figma flow below to walk through what I described. My words might lack many details compared to a polished clickable prototype.
(But it's a link I know... eeggh it's crazy to ask bitcoin holders to click a link huh? it's your call whether to go into the rabbit hole a little deeper. No pressure at all I'm thankful for your comments and help!
Maybe you can google Figma)
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Trust me ser we're aware of this coin has no value but a group of 33,000 people are building value to it. Our project team has 3 addresses with less than 20 billion $LOWB in total. About 11 billion is used for community incentives later on, another 3 billion is for promoting, and we have 5 billion for ourselves. You can find all the transaction histories on BSCScan. There’re 40 billion on app.loserswap.com where you can farm and stake to earn more $LOWB. During those crypto coin snowslides, we’ve all lost many things. These losses and inner struggles brought us together to create this loser coin project. It is guaranteed that the project team will not give up this project because we knew the feeling of seeing coins return to $0, also we won’t pull the price of $LOWB because we are losers and don’t have huge capital. Why is our project called lowb? Why not call pig coin, dog coin, shit coin or some moon coin? Because we have lost many things but unwilling to kneel, and we call this “loser spirit” - we fight, we lose, and we stand up again to keep fighting. We all have ups and downs and at certain moments we are losers, by building this LoserCoin community, we want to give “losers” as much strength as we could, make them feel home because it will feel stronger and warmer if we stick together when red comes. When red do come, we still have each other. Right now we have a strong community with more than 33,000 "Losers" around the world who joined us because of our community culture. There are too many people who have lost their assets and was rob over and over again. We should have the right to discuss to shouting even if we are not worth a damn shit Welcome home, losers. We will always be here, win, or lose. |
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"We have nothing to lose"
Right. Because you have some shitcoins, were you own x-amount of them. You ask to pump the price and then you will sell them, to become rich(whole purpose of this is that you become richt, or else you wouldn't invest time into this project despite you are losers).
At the end the investors become losers.
There is no real business purpose behind this. Other projects/coins have business models. You have none.
So yeah, nobody should invest because in the long run you lose (losercoim)
Consensus is where value created in blockchain universe. Consensus of losers is no less consensus. Otherwise, how did the Bitcoin value get created my friend? |
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it is illegal! Especially he holds massive Doge |
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