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...the next difficulty will be ~ 82Phash/s!!!! GHASH.IO power grows very VERY RAPIDLY (I remember a few days ago only they stated to have just something over 24 Ghash/s and TODAY it's 36 GHash/s!!!!) CRAZY ,isn't ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ....bitcoiners who are still support this "COMPANY" (usually via buying a NEW CLOUD HASHING MINING POWER from it) are SICK ,very VERY SICK & SHORTSIGHTED and nothing else probably the care ONLY short-time PROFIT(if some ever exists)!!!!! ....but GAME can be OVER much SOONER as YOU think! I agree YOU CAN earn (loose less ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ) by buying some cloud hashing power from them(CEX.IO),mostly because they are running the biggest pool=>less variance=the most stabile payouts + probably a cheaper maintenance costs (in compare to paying an expensive electricity etc...) ,but currently they are TOO BIG (with approx.44% market share and still growing!!!)=>TOO DANGER for the bitcoin, for us!!!! I believe THEY CAN BE A SMART & not DIVE BITCOIN under "51% ATTACK" =>as they can spread a portion of their hashing power into the others (known & UNKNOWN) pools (personally I believe THEY ARE ALREADY DOING!!! ,if they have "A LUCKIER ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) day as usually....but what?WTF??? Is it mean a SECURE & DECENTRALISED BITCOIN NETWORK? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ...just imagine*What can happen, if they'll stop to be a SMART & HONEST GUYS??? ...or if "SOMEONE BAD" takes OVER their ALL HASHING POWER @ (GHASH.IO and in "OTHERS" pools) and....(you know what I mean so...) ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I'm NOT AGAINST strengthening of network hash rate as a whole=it's VERY VERY IMPORTANT for bitcoin's GROWN ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ,but I'm AGAINST CONCENTRATION of so MUCH(maybe already the most)POWER in just 1 HANDS ONLY, because without decentralisation there will be(almost) NO TRUST and NO DIFFERENCE from others... and BITCOIN's (as a whole(protocol/currency...)) VALUE WILL DROP TO (almost) ZERO!!!!!!! Don't YOU agree with me hmmm? YOU will be A BETTER OFF ,if you BUY some bitcoins from an "exchange or ATM" as to put your "HARD EARN MONEY/BITCOINS" to buy some overpriced "UNPROFITABLE" & totally "OUT OF YOUR CONTROL" cloud hashing mining power from the "BIGGEST POOL OPERATOR"!!!!!Thank You ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Ghash LOL.. If its only 36Ghash, I think they are currently at >0.1% Of network lol. Its PetaHash, I agree it can be dangerous, its up to those miners to choose to leave the pool. Sorry for BUGS! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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...nice clip ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) "hiding their blocks"=same as a "MAKE UP" >they need to do it every fucking day and very very precisely, otherwise soon or later people will detect who is behind it....,but that's NOT A SOLUTION to the problem with gathering a TOO MUCH POWER (if not MAJORITY ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ) in just 1 hand ONLY = it's NOT DECENTRALIZATION !!!!! ...even with a 25% power, you still have a "GOOD CHANCE" to attack a network....just look at that http://arxiv.org/pdf/1402.2009v1.pdf Therefore we need at least 100 different pools [*each one with different ownership and different location (even if most likely it will be a cloud hashing provider) and with a maximum 1% of ALL POWER!!! or at least a couple of P2Pools ] => only then we can talk "WE HAVE A SECURE AND DECENTRALIZED bitcoin NETWORK and WE ARE PROUD of IT" !!! Right? Do you agree with me???
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Scary.
Here's an idea.. it is estimated that there are at least 5PH/s of personal equipment on ghash. If we could get that 5PH/s moved over to mmpool.org which is the only other real merge mining pool, that pool would break through the "too slow" barrier and it should start seeing daily rewards.
I agree ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ...ANY move OUT of "GHash" right now IS a POSITIVE STEP!!!
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TROLL ALERT:
BITCOIN*me* is an alias which ONLY posts anti GHash rhetoric and nothing else.
TROLL ALERT:
Are you SURE? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) ...to be clear: I'm not against GHash.io ,but against "CENTRALIZATION" the most power in just 1 hand only!!! ...right now ONLY GHash.io is approaching that,therefore bitcoiners "BEWARE GHASH.IO" (at least for now...it's too BIG!!!!)
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Yup. Put your time and energy into designing a pool that can compete on features with ghash (the pool, not cex).
That's what's needed, not yelling like this. It will just draw more people in.
There are several pools that just need a few more features and they could compete. Pools stopped innovating and ghash took over.
I agree with YOU ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ,but it's OVER my power... ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif)
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I switched my miners to BTCGUILD but it is only 1Th It is not to much but if some few thousand ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) others miners do the same will be ok regards That's GOOD!!!! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ...a very POSITIVE step to DECENTRALISATION (a redistribution of CONCENTRATED power from the BIGGEST pool to the others...smaller pools) I believe several OTHERS will join to YOU also ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) [even if you earn a bit less (=at least in a short time period) !!!]
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...the next difficulty will be ~ 82Phash/s!!!! GHASH.IO power grows very VERY RAPIDLY (I remember a few days ago only they stated to have just something over 24Ghash/s and TODAY it's 36GHash/s!!!!) CRAZY ,isn't ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ....bitcoiners who are still support this "COMPANY" (usually via buying a NEW CLOUD HASHING MINING POWER from it) are SICK ,very VERY SICK & SHORTSIGHTED and nothing else probably the care ONLY short-time PROFIT(if some ever exists)!!!!! ....but GAME can be OVER much SOONER as YOU think! I agree YOU CAN earn (loose less ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ) by buying some cloud hashing power from them(CEX.IO),mostly because they are running the biggest pool=>less variance=the most stabile payouts + probably a cheaper maintenance costs (in compare to paying an expensive electricity etc...) ,but currently they are TOO BIG (with approx.44% market share and still growing!!!)=>TOO DANGER for the bitcoin, for us!!!! I believe THEY CAN BE A SMART & not DIVE BITCOIN under "51% ATTACK" =>as they can spread a portion of their hashing power into the others (known & UNKNOWN) pools (personally I believe THEY ARE ALREADY DOING!!! ,if they have "A LUCKIER ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) day as usually....but what?WTF??? Is it mean a SECURE & DECENTRALISED BITCOIN NETWORK? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ...just imagine*What can happen, if they'll stop to be a SMART & HONEST GUYS??? ...or if "SOMEONE BAD" takes OVER their ALL HASHING POWER @ (GHASH.IO and in "OTHERS" pools) and....(you know what I mean so...) ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I'm NOT AGAINST strengthening of network hash rate as a whole=it's VERY VERY IMPORTANT for bitcoin's GROWN ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ,but I'm AGAINST CONCENTRATION of so MUCH(maybe already the most)POWER in just 1 HANDS ONLY, because without decentralisation there will be(almost) NO TRUST and NO DIFFERENCE from others... and BITCOIN's (as a whole(protocol/currency...)) VALUE WILL DROP TO (almost) ZERO!!!!!!! Don't YOU agree with me hmmm? YOU will be A BETTER OFF ,if you BUY some bitcoins from an "exchange or ATM" as to put your "HARD EARN MONEY/BITCOINS" to buy some overpriced "UNPROFITABLE" & totally "OUT OF YOUR CONTROL" cloud hashing mining power from the "BIGGEST POOL OPERATOR"!!!!!Thank You ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Well, according to this, ghash.io right now only has 35% of the total hashing power
blockchain.info/pools
Well,according their website, GHash.io right now has ONLY 5.72 PHash/s WTF??? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Just only a couple hours ago it still had over 30 PHash/s !!!! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Very very strange ,no? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ...maybe because of DDOS attack hmm? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Or they haven't paid their electricity bill? Does anybody know where all the data centers of ghash are located? I think I once read that the biggest is in the Ukraine? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ...somewhere I read they have "SOMEWHERE" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) in Iceland & Finland and...,but I'm not sure if it's true ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) ? Does know someone better as me hmm? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) They are everywhere where electricity is cheep . Its not good that they have so much power that needs to be stopped. But i think they are smart enough not to try 51% attack. They made , and will make much more money while not doing it. They cant afford to try that and let bitcoin burn to the ground . LOL . OK,I believe you they are "SMART" & also a "GOOD GUYS" => they will NEVER (not only Today!!!) sink bitcoin under the "51% ATTACK" ,but they were already VERY NEAR and still THEY ARE (don't forget they can have a POWER in "others pools" also!!!!) ,but what will really happen if someone else "A BAD GUY/S" seize their business, take over their mining rigs & attack the network under "a 51% attack" hmmm??? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) ...or they just attack their "DATA CENTRE/S" with 1 (or few) shoot/s only? "BOOM" and that's it... ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) Even,if their website will be just "SHUT DOWN FROM THE INTERNET",a DAMAGE to the bitcoin will be "HUGE" (at least ALL NEW TRANSACTIONS will be DELAYED, until difficulty adjust and that could lasts even a few weeks!!!) => this could be a better "scenario" Even if we'll have 10 CENTRALIZED (Clouding Hashing Companies/Pools)*each one with approx.10% of all network power,=> it ALWAYS will be a VERY EASY for some "BAD GUYS" to TAKE OVER THEM and.... ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) So I'm and I ALWAYS will be against "HUGE" centralized "DATA CENTRES" ....and YOU understand WHY, yes? (PS: I know they can be a MORE effective/profitable...,but it's also a BIG EVIL for a security network and sooner or later exactly just because of this bitcoin will FAILS!!!!
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Well, according to this, ghash.io right now only has 35% of the total hashing power
blockchain.info/pools
Well,according their website, GHash.io right now has ONLY 5.72 PHash/s WTF??? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Just only a couple hours ago it still had over 30 PHash/s !!!! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Very very strange ,no? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ...maybe because of DDOS attack hmm? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Or they haven't paid their electricity bill? Does anybody know where all the data centers of ghash are located? I think I once read that the biggest is in the Ukraine? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ...somewhere I read they have "SOMEWHERE" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) in Iceland & Finland and...,but I'm not sure if it's true ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) ? Does know someone better as me hmm? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Well, according to this, ghash.io right now only has 35% of the total hashing power
blockchain.info/pools
Well,according their website, GHash.io right now has ONLY 5.72 PHash/s WTF??? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Just only a couple hours ago it still had over 30 PHash/s !!!! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Very very strange ,no? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ...maybe because of DDOS attack hmm? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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Iīm going to spend FULL 7 DAYS calculating my earnings and fees for this earnings... I know that it is more than 0.26$/month/1Gh/s and it is not 4% after 1st day it is more than 40% ... Here are another persons from board that have thesame... some people just donīt look how much they charge.... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPjEx8ld.png&t=663&c=5l9eAUq_gR2-Sw) and here are another screens... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYnW0DHM.png&t=663&c=2Et0u3PGsOqN5g) Than They should chargme me about 0.00045 ( with current price) per 1 Gh/s And I can make around 0.00146400 BTC with 1Gh/s which is about $0.83 Which mean that they charge more than 30% of my earnings.... IF THEY SAY TRUE but according to my calculates 4hours mining made so far 8147 Satoshi They took my 3438 Satoshi it means that They took 42% of my earnings in 1 day i will earn about 48,882 Satoshi in 1 day they will take about 20,628 Satoshi now x30 days I wil learn 1466560 Satoshi They will take 618840 Satoshi If Iīm calculate good than they wil lcharge me 3.57 USD ( with current price) And i have 14Gh/s which is 0.26$ per Gh/s Yes i know but Iīm not telling that they put bad % or smth i just wan to tell that They charge about 30% FEE!! They had 0% pool fee Ok but charging 30% ONLY FROM GH/S BOUGHT ON WEBSITE! (if You are mining with your own hardware You donīt pay maitenenace fee) THIS IS CLEAR SCAM! You can earn AT THE MOMENT 0.86$ and They want 0.26% ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ? THIS IS 30%!!!! Price per Gh/s is ridicullus as well.... ( but ok this is not their foult) Ok nvm I told that BitCoin now is like piramide.... You need to always put more and more and more and more... Iīm just waiting for end when BTC will crash crash crash.. why? everything have start and end.... Born - Die You have money - You spend Money You have Job - you lose Job you lie - Someone know This is why we have so much altcoins on market itīs like our new world.... New people just born... Good People and Bad people, scammers and workers, idiots and clever people... nvm Iīm just out of this stupid website.... btw on 1nd account i have about 70satoshi per block and They charge me about 15satoshi ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) good deal - I paid for Gh/s - I risk 8 cuz they have money if btc price crash) - I need to invest all the time more and more not they.... ( they have good income accoirding to Fee and Maitenenance...) btw 30Ph/s = 30,000 Gh/s x 3,57USD/Gh/s=107,100$ (~100K $ ) + Trade Fee Eventually, the trading platform will move to a flexible fee system, according to which the commission will vary for each user, depending on his 30-day trading history, and will lie between 0.5% and 0.2%. 0.2 and 0.5 is big diffrence but ok letīs say 0.2% 24h volume: 75730.77550604 GH/s with trade fee 0.2% is about 1BTC + Fee from NMC LTC ETC ETC ETC but ok letīs say 1BTC per day 30BTC per month from trade fee 30BTCx550$=16,500$ Arround 150,000 $ per month and they say that They are charging this maitenance fee even from Gh/s from refferals! i have 10Gh/s from refferals and they charge me as well..... this is stupid as hell here You have more kinda fresh posts... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FN9CMsgL.png&t=663&c=1XrsREnZeP9xLg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrEAF0Xj.png&t=663&c=mvr43LcYJ-b_KQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFQTX9OA.png&t=663&c=zwalbZVNuAZylQ) ...to get your calculations right => 30Ph/s is NOT 30,000Gh/s ,but IT IS 30,000,000Gh/s or 30,000Th/s !!!!!! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ALL NETWORK is currently approx. 75Ph/s and GHash.io is taking from this more as just a "FAIR" share! ....so GET AWAY FROM THEM!!!>they are currently "TOO BIG" and that simply means "TOO DANGER" for us,for the bitcoin!!!!! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) To the "MAINTENANCE" => it is also INCLUDING power cost ,so you don't must pay any others expenses as (electricity costs) ,YES? = can be currently very VERY PRICIEST !!!! (They can have their "MINING CENTRE" somewhere where electricity is very very cheap from HUGE NATURAL RESOURCES (as on Iceland or so...) + side product HEAT ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) = can be used for heating...right?!!!) ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) =>I stopped my mining mostly because of that expense ...actually Don't you want to buy my USED RIGS ?? VERY VERY CHEAP ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) !!!
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it already is over 50%, they're just being smart about it. i mean, why would you want to cause a panic about it when you're making so much money? i mean, they can sell their asics for 5-10x what they should be priced at, and they can also sell their hashing power for at least 2x what it should be priced at... in the meantime, they can just use it to mine.
do you really think they're making all their blocks public w/ the sig?
No,I don't think so...I know they can also hash with THEIR OWN POWER + (with the people's who stick own rigs to their pool) in others "KNOWN" & "UNKNOWN" pools ,so probably they already exceed OVER 50% of ALL POWER today!!! Is it mean a "DECENTRALISATION" ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ...if so MUCH POWER is in hands of just 1 COMPANY (individual) only? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) WAKE UP bitcoiners ,until it's not TOO LATE!!!! ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) I know they have the smallest variance there simply, because they are "THE BIGGEST ONE" out of all pools here, so at least in a short-time period you probably reach a BIGGER REVENUE(PROFIT) ,as with a mining with some others pools + maybe they offer also "THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE" ....,but it seems to me as "DANCING ON A VERY VERY THIN ICE" = ANY TIME can be "GAME OVER" !!!!! Or not? You can argue they are a "GOOD" or "SMART" guys (company) ,but what if NOT? Or what if "SOMEONE BAD" takes OVER them??? ONLY 1 COMPANY (pool) is a VERY EASY POINT OF FAILURE (taking over,shut down possible EASY) or not???!! What happens then with a value of YOURS and MY bitcoin hmm??? Try guess... DECENTRALISATION is the "BASIC" point of the BITCOIN!!! Without it there will be less CREDIBILITY ,much MUCH WEAKER TRUST IN BITCOIN ,and that will prevents bitcoin's WIDER ADOPTION and ACCEPTANCE WORLDWIDE ,right?!!! ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Conclusion I was also a miner, but I NEVER PLUG my RIGS to a "BIGGEST POOL" ,although I knew I could have a higher (at least in a short period of few days/weeks) 10% or so more in revenue (profit) !!!!! Just try to do same and maybe everything will be OK ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ...or actually WHERE IS A COMPETITION hmmm? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) REMEMBER there is NO ANTIMONOPOLY OFFICE in bitcoin ,therefore PLEASE!!!! NEVER PLUG YOUR RIGS TO THE BIGGEST POOL!!!!!!! Thank You All ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) !!!!!
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GHash.IO hashed TWICE 8 BLOCKS IN ROW + ONCE 6 BLOCKS IN ROW TODAY!!!! + it's network share currently is (and not only today!!!) approx. 40% of ALL FRESH MINED BITCOINS. Is it HEALTHY FOR BITCOIN ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ?? Actually what is a probability to that happen??? ...and what about about DECENTRALISATION ,is it not Alfa & Omega of all bitcoin project,goal?? Will you (ALL PUBLIC) trust bitcoin anymore,if mostly (over 50%) of all network power is in hands of just 1 company (pool) only,because me personally not ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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