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I thought that creating a token as payment would accelerate the launch of the app, but instead, the token will limit the options for the users, so the way to go is to start with multiple payment methods like binance pay, coinbase to cover most of the coins. Launching without funds is no fun, but it can be done. I created a discord server for the project if anyone is interested in joining. https://discord.gg/JdKuSADG |
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The question is, should I use bitcoin lighting or create an erc20 token?
Bitcoin Lightning Network is more efficient to use compared to ERC20 due to the cheap fee and faster confirmation since it's an L2 chain which works faster to a L1 chain such as Ethereum. Your only challenge on LN is it's not popular because only few services accepts it. Why not choose other Blockchain that charge cheaper fee and faster block confirmation such as BSC? Binance Smart Chain is as popular as Etherum in terms of userbase. You can have tons of participants in that chain due to their reach community. Or OP could just use ETH and Arbitrum , which is basically free compared to BSC, and BSC is basically a guarantee that no one will be investing. It's like a synonym for shitcoins, because every scammer has been using it since the beginning. Scammers haven't moved in masses to cheaper alternatives like arbitrum that i know, for some reason. I guess it's just a matter of time. Other chains may offer low fees or speed, but in the end, ethereum is the only one I can rely on after bitcoin. |
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To be able to do that, I must take a higher commission, ... , so goodbye to higher commissions
Why higher commision? You certainly won't charge more commission on $5 work if the ETH network transfer costs from $2 to $100. first, you get funded, so goodbye to higher commissions,
second, the crypto space is small and has a large community, so I can build a user base easy,
last, I can focus on creating more services for business using the data we collect, and use part of the revenue to burn the token which benefit all the token holders.
It's nice to get funding for the idea itself, but it's not 2017 anymore. Dozens, if not hundreds, of projects promising miracles are created every day. Investors are already discouraged by this because they know that financing before the product is delivered is demoralizing (as developer, why provide the product for free - it was financed earlier - when you can promise another product and obtain further financing) I believe that building utility on a new token by force increases the entry threshold for real users. You know, you want a job and you want to pay for it quickly, and not wonder where to get some low-liquidity shitcoin, pay for bridges and swaps. The same with platform workers. By the way - you already have competitors: https://www.microworkers.com/https://rapidworkers.com/I believe this project has a good chance because the vision is big, and the app will be ready before the announcement, so as an investor, you can test the live version of the app. My plans for the token are simple, sell 5% to first-comers to evaluate the project cap, let's say one week, once it's done, we do a branding, and UX improvement and then deploy contracts and add the app to Chrome store, start with the whitelisting to sell 35% to the public, once this step is done, we start the market with same amount as liquidity, so now we used 75%, the rest 25% managed by the company to make sure the vision the data collecting is always available to offer more features and services. What do you think? |
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The question is, should I use bitcoin lighting or create an erc20 token?
not everything is worth decentralizing. It's worth to use decentralized solution for life savings (that's what bitcoin is for) but if your website is based on earning micro rates for short tasks, why not do it the old way and when the "employee" collects the appropriate amount in his account (for example after finishing 10 tasks), he will be able to withdraw in the crypto of his choice, incurring transfer cost yourself? To be able to do that, I must take a higher commission, which is inconvenient for a startup, but the advantages of erc20 are worth exploring, first, you get funded, so goodbye to higher commissions, second, the crypto space is small and has a large community, so I can build a user base easy, last, I can focus on creating more services for business using the data we collect, and use part of the revenue to burn the token which benefit all the token holders. |
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Hi everyone, I would appreciate any advice or suggestions regarding the launch of my crypto project, so thank you in advance  First, let's start with some history, it started when I was trying to collect data for another youtube service project that have nothing to do with crypto. I thought with the tools available today, getting a list of youtubers contact information wouldn't be a challenge, but after trying everything, I realized that mining data for startups like mine can be a promising business since then I have been working on my own solution and the idea kept evolving while developing the app, so now I have another challenge wish led me to crypto, the idea is to let users to create tasks for data collection, social boost, SEO, etc.. and pay a fair amount to users who perform this tasks, since the tasks are distributed to many users, the micropayments can't be done using paypal or similar service, so the first thing came in mind was lighting network, but when I shared the idea with the people that I know they have crypto experience, I realized that lighting is popular among crypto enthusiast, but my app is built for everyone, and believe it or not ethereum tokens are more popular nowadays because of NFTs and other projects. The question is, should I use bitcoin lighting or create an erc20 token? |
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As we know the main problem in the ethereum network is gas costs which are considered expensive, I think it's still more normal with btc fees or even from other networks such as BNB or Polygon.
If you are a future player, it can cost you expensive gas and this could be the reason why they avoid playing your game over the network. I think that Crypto games still have a chance to shine in the next bull market, but you as a developer have to consider the problems that are happening in the market especially this issue regarding the cost of gas.
I think the best solution is to let the player choose the chain, I will build it on Solana and eth, then deploy the same contract on matic, BSC, etc... |
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I'm working on an in-chain game on ethereum, but before I spend more time on it, I would like to get some feedback first, so the game is about creating a town in a country, mining resources, building an army, and invading other towns, creating town shares, collecting taxes, sell it on the marketplace vs ETH, and more.
as a game designer, I can build it myself and I have friends in case I need it backers, in exchange I get loyalty for me and my backers from the marketplace when users exchange resources.
The question I'm asking is, is it worth building?
Do you play a free game on ethereum by paying only transaction fees knowing that you can sell town shares when you reach a certain level?
If i were you, i would switch the blockchain network from Ethereum to something else to be honest. The transaction costs of Ethereum are just way to high and the switch from PoW to PoS also did not change that sadly. At the moment the gas price is very low for Ethereum standards but still a normal transaction costs 1 - 2,5$ and a swap still costs around 8$. Those values can easily be 10x higher when the ETH network is heavily used again. I would probably switch to BSC or Arbitrum if i were you. The transaction costs are way way lower and therefore you could attract way more people to try your game. Absolutely, Ethereum has been acting like a rogue element in the digital financial arena, holding the reins when it comes to transaction costs. It parallels the image of a boisterous child insisting on your snack fund while giving zilch in return. It's certainly an argument worth considering, yet, I surmise it's not the single driving force here. Let's not forget - Ethereum's blockchain stands as one of the most seasoned and thoroughly vetted. It embodies an enticing mix of decentralization, ironclad security, and a congenial habitat for developers. Moving towards BSC or Arbitrum though, it's akin to trading in a military-grade armored vehicle for a toy car due to its voracious fuel consumption. Indeed, BSC and Arbitrum promise lesser fees, but they can't really compete in the big leagues of security and decentralization. I'm not discrediting their virtues, but we ought to avoid being frugal at the expense of long-term gains. Hence, prior to taking that bold step, balance the benefits and pitfalls. Ultimately, it's your move and your rulebook. However, bear in mind, low-cost doesn't always equate to superior quality. Crypto started with BTC, then ETH came out with something new, and since then, I see only clones and complicated projects to use or build on like Solana. |
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In the current market, there are many blockchain games being developed, so your game needs to be different to attract players. Your product can create value for players through gameplay, features, or other benefits. If you can come up with a good product for the players, the increase in value will come to you in time. The problem of producing an array on ETH will have to accept problems and fees as well as transaction speed, especially this problem becomes more serious when users come to the bull market. So it is not necessary to force yourself to join them, because now there are also many solutions across different ecosystems that save costs during development as well as improve usage.
I think Solana is the answer, the speed, the fees, and the community, and this is why most of the games are built on it, let's join them  |
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Hi,
I checked the address I used in deckbound, I can't remember which transaction id because I had more than 500, and many 1 BTC tx.
If you know which txid we use, I can sell you the private key for the same amount and transfer it yourself.
Address: "19Y62uzrR7E3TTdidBrWhCymPPiMSedJDk"
The volume on this address is more than 300 BTC, if you want it, let me know.
Thanks for getting back to me. I did some research on the project and it doesn't appear to show any signs of life, and I'm unfamiliar with the intricacies of how it works. But I did forward your offer to some people who might be interested, will send you a PM if I hear back from them. I have seen a similar type of game, called : Augmentors that was sponsored by one of the investors in the series - Shark Tank on TV. The site is augmentorsgame.com and it is still active after all of these years, but I do not know if it is successful or not. (founded in 2016)
This is actually right up my alley... I found that peeps are currently buying the game's main Counterparty token for anywhere between $0.64 and $13,292.  https://xchain.io/asset/DATABITSThe supply is way too high to be very interesting to me personally. Stuff like this is considered to be a "historical collectible" by now even though its less than 7 years old. It was at the forefront of blockchain gaming, even if it never fully materialized (back then, appears to be on Solana now). The fact that its a Counterparty token makes it all the more easy to collect and trade, unlike Deckbound, however unfortunately. I was excited about deckbound, I was a newbie game programmer at that time. Now I'm building my own game on solana, maybe I will call it deckbound, remembering the good days of bitcoin. |
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First of all, I would not recommend you to use the ethereum network, as my friends said. Because the network fees are very high, the number of players and your products will be very expensive. But on the other hand, the ethereum network is also seen as a reliable network for investors. This is because the investment fees are high and fraud is not possible. But if you are not going to start as a professional, I recommend you to start with alternative networks, namely bsc network. Or you can integrate the bsc network with the ethereum network.
What I want to create here is a silly basic game on blockchain, well-optimized, and secure, then we build a basic client that other developers can fork to build their own versions of the game. As your friend said, the ethereum network is reliable, if you want to create a long-term project, ether is the answer, also the interaction with the contract can be optimized to pay less fees because the game has no ERC20/NFT or swaps, and since the resources can be sold, front-end developers can add a new contract to pay fees in exchange of resources, the possibilities are endless. I think the real challenge is how the game contract is built, once the contract is in the testing phase, we can determine how the fees impact the game economics and how to deal with it. |
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Do you play a free game on Ethereum by paying only transaction fees.
I don't, transaction fees are put-off for me on any chain, but Ethereum takes the cake. Knowing that you can sell town shares when you reach a certain level? Depends on price, and this often depends on popularity of game, or are you saying players can sell town shares for definite price determined by game design? the game unlocks 10% of the town shares to be sold at different level checkpoints, so the shares price will keep getting higher depending on how fast the player is leveling up + the prices of the resources changes on the market. The shares also can be traded on the marketplace later. |
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I don't think you need to avoid polygon due to reasons you said above, people will crowd over the polygon network if you're game is appealing as you say it actually is. It's especially advantageous considering how ETH has enormous fees, so people transitioning to polygon wouldn't feel awkward for your game, they'd probably welcome it even. Looking at it from another side though, high fees won't exactly stop the game from spreading if it's really that good. But ehhh, considering all things, a blockchain with smaller handling fees would be a lot better. Also, I will be posting progress updates here.
I suggest creating a whole new post altogether. It'd kinda get buried with all the posts here. Maybe even self mod and reserve the first few sections so you can have them all for your updates. Good idea, I will wait until the testnet is ready, so people can play and share their feedback with us. |
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I'm working on an in-chain game on ethereum
You are building either an on-chain game on Ethereum blockchain or an off-chain game. No in-chain game. before I spend more time on it, I would like to get some feedback first, so the game is about creating a town in a country, mining resources, building an army, and invading other towns, creating town shares, collecting taxes, sell it on the marketplace vs ETH, and more.
as a game designer, I can build it myself and I have friends in case I need it backers, in exchange I get loyalty for me and my backers from the marketplace when users exchange resources.
The question I'm asking is, is it worth building?
It is not worth building. You must look at your tokenomics, inflation of your token when your game continues to be lively played by gamers. The more gamers play your game, the more inflation of your token will be. How will you control that inflation? If you can not control inflation, your token will be dumped to hell. Your team will only get money from selling tokens, NFTs and it's the end of your project when token crashes with gamer selling pressure. on-chain game , the game has no token or NFTs, we sell nothing, the access to the game is free, and we make money only when players start making money by selling resources to other players, we collect a marketplace fees + part of what players spend to buy extra energy, which is optional for players who want to level up fast, the other part of the energy sales, will be held for future challenges and prizes. |
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[....]I'm not a programmer, but why not try Polygon, for example.
OP already tried Polygon as he mentioned in his previous comment. The reason I choose to build it on Ethereum is that I tried before with another game built on Polygon which is a well-known blockchain, but in reality, people don't really use it, and the hype is about promoting Polygon, not the projects built on it, and this is why the project died even before started.
Understandable but how certain are you that Polygon was the problem? It's true that it has less users compared to Ethereum so there is still the need to promote the chain first over the projects built on it but have you done enough for the game? I mean maybe the concept was different than what you're trying to build now. try to consider this again. Why do I choose to build it on blockchain in the first place? The game challenge is time and time can be bought from the game, a pay-to-win concept that helps new users to keep up with the first comers, otherwise, it won't be fun to wait to get invaded every minute by users who started before you. The good thing about these games is the time because in order to keep your town prospering all you need is a few minutes per day to collect resources and upgrade buildings or create new ones, so technically it's one transaction per day that handle all the updates for you. So you are playing by not wasting your time playing The fun part is when you start trading resources and shares in the marketplace, it's about predicting other users' productivity, promoting your own town, trading countries' bonds, and of course, getting your town up in the leaderboard. The game works without the blockchain, but when the money is real, it makes it more fun because the steps you take are well calculated and the town gives you more status than holding a rare NFT or something similar in the crypto space. The idea sounds good. I hope you get good backing for this project. My experience with polygon was on a high level, the project was big, with a great studio, a demo, and everything, we worked directly with the team, but in the end, they just used us to make the polygon looks good for investors, I don't want to get to the details, because the project is still on hold, we may revive it later on ETH chain, but from experience, polygon is a graveyard for web3 projects. Yesterday's dinner didn't go as expected, but 2 of 6 people agreed to back me up, is still a win at this stage, the next important step is the prototype on testnet, once it's done, I will create a proper announcement post for the game. In case you want to get notified when the testnet is live, use this form ( mailing list) to join the mailing list, we won't email you until the testnet is live. Also, I will be posting progress updates here. |
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yes i have 1.00 BTC in genesis block 2 , if any one need it send a pm , early buyers get 250% at game launch Any chance you still have access to your Deckbound cards? I notice the site is down but came across an article that said this: "Deckbound could completely shut down and users would still own the cards they had paid for." https://observer.com/2015/10/deckbound-bitbind-bitcoin-block-chain/Would be willing to pay BTC for them granted you still have them and they are probably transferrable. Thanks! Hi, I checked the address I used in deckbound, I can't remember which transaction id because I had more than 500, and many 1 BTC tx. If you know which txid we use, I can sell you the private key for the same amount and transfer it yourself. Address: "19Y62uzrR7E3TTdidBrWhCymPPiMSedJDk" The volume on this address is more than 300 BTC, if you want it, let me know. |
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The question I'm asking is, is it worth building?
Do you play a free game on ethereum by paying only transaction fees knowing that you can sell town shares when you reach a certain level?
If you build your games exclusively on the ETH chain, you'll leave a lot of potential players on the table since not all of them use ETH. I personally play several on-chain games from ETH, EOS, TRX, etc., and they have similar problems expanding their user base IMO. If possible, try thinking about a chain-agnostic solution where users can play using their favorite coins. Moreover, ETH is not the fastest and cheapest chain even after PoS. You'll congest the network and the fees will be high. when you reach a certain level in the game, you will be able to unlock shares for other users to buy from you, the ETH you get from shares will help you pay the fees to level up more and unlock more shares, so the game is expensive only in the beginning, which is a requirement to show the buyers who paid for your shares that you are serious and won't stop playing after the first shares sold. We can use the ETH fees as an advantage. |
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Thank you for the feedback guys, keep it coming, please. The reason I choose to build it on Ethereum is that I tried before with another game built on Polygon which is a well-known blockchain, but in reality, people don't really use it, and the hype is about promoting Polygon, not the projects built on it, and this is why the project died even before started. Why do I choose to build it on blockchain in the first place? The game challenge is time and time can be bought from the game, a pay-to-win concept that helps new users to keep up with the first comers, otherwise, it won't be fun to wait to get invaded every minute by users who started before you. The good thing about these games is the time because in order to keep your town prospering all you need is a few minutes per day to collect resources and upgrade buildings or create new ones, so technically it's one transaction per day that handle all the updates for you. So you are playing by not wasting your time playing The fun part is when you start trading resources and shares in the marketplace, it's about predicting other users' productivity, promoting your own town, trading countries' bonds, and of course, getting your town up in the leaderboard. The game works without the blockchain, but when the money is real, it makes it more fun because the steps you take are well calculated and the town gives you more status than holding a rare NFT or something similar in the crypto space. I'm going to pitch it to my friends today, which me luck |
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I'm working on an in-chain game on ethereum, but before I spend more time on it, I would like to get some feedback first, so the game is about creating a town in a country, mining resources, building an army, and invading other towns, creating town shares, collecting taxes, sell it on the marketplace vs ETH, and more.
as a game designer, I can build it myself and I have friends in case I need it backers, in exchange I get loyalty for me and my backers from the marketplace when users exchange resources.
The question I'm asking is, is it worth building?
Do you play a free game on ethereum by paying only transaction fees knowing that you can sell town shares when you reach a certain level?
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-snip- I think an expert can break into the wallet using the data from the phone, so in gonna list it on ebay.  Without any information about the password, even an expert with good hardware for bruteforcing wallets wont be able to break into it. That's unless the password is short or consists of few simple dictionary words. Since you're already considering giving it away with the phone, at least let " experts" try to break into it. I'd recommend you this service which won't charge a fee right away ( only until the wallet is cracked): https://www.walletrecoveryservices.com/Take note that Dave wont accept the job unless you're certain that it has funds and at least know few parts of the password. is there a way to get the pin code using the USB connection?
You can copy that file for your personal backup and then list it on ebay as you intended. ( surprise for the buyer?) But it's recommended to wipe the device first since you might remember a part of the password that you've used ( not yours?). The phone is not mine, so even if I contact Dave, I can't help with the password or guarantee the wallet has funds in the first place. The idea is to list it on the marketplace, tell the story and let people bid on it, maybe someone will get lucky or track the owner using the data, you never know. Thank you everyone for your help. |
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is there a way to get the pin code using the USB connection?   |
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